and smart dumber too.People are getting smarter
Birthrates are plummeting worldwide. Can governments turn the tide?
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That’s the ultimate truth right there
The blame gets placed on women’
With no answers in sight, Allen says, there’s also an ethical problem. Women are asked to have the kids, care for the elderly, participate in the workforce and do the unpaid labour at home. And young people now see through this, she says.
Allen says the push for women to shoulder the burden of the demographic “crisis” has been going on in Australia since colonisation. It was part of displacing First Nations people and creating a European outpost, she says, of ensuring the “right kind of women” breed.
“We see echoes of these encouragements from these politicians over time. They say things like ‘populate or perish’. ‘Lie back and think of England’. ‘One for mum, one for dad and one for the country’. ‘The right women aren’t having enough babies, the wrong women are having too many babies’,” Allen says.
“The blame gets placed on women. Women are seen as the gatekeepers of population and are seen as hedonistic and selfish if they do not populate.”
She points to a 1944 inquiry into Australian birthrates, where women were – for the first time – allowed to have a voice. In response to (yet another) call for women to “populate or perish”, one woman voiced her frustration at the burden thrust upon her.
“You men in easy chairs say populate or perish,” she said. “Well I have populated and I have perished with no blankets.”
Sorry due to Biology women are the ultimate deciders on who gets born.The blame gets placed on women’
With no answers in sight, Allen says, there’s also an ethical problem. Women are asked to have the kids, care for the elderly, participate in the workforce and do the unpaid labour at home. And young people now see through this, she says.
Allen says the push for women to shoulder the burden of the demographic “crisis” has been going on in Australia since colonisation. It was part of displacing First Nations people and creating a European outpost, she says, of ensuring the “right kind of women” breed.
“We see echoes of these encouragements from these politicians over time. They say things like ‘populate or perish’. ‘Lie back and think of England’. ‘One for mum, one for dad and one for the country’. ‘The right women aren’t having enough babies, the wrong women are having too many babies’,” Allen says.
“The blame gets placed on women. Women are seen as the gatekeepers of population and are seen as hedonistic and selfish if they do not populate.”
She points to a 1944 inquiry into Australian birthrates, where women were – for the first time – allowed to have a voice. In response to (yet another) call for women to “populate or perish”, one woman voiced her frustration at the burden thrust upon her.
“You men in easy chairs say populate or perish,” she said. “Well I have populated and I have perished with no blankets.”
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Facts.
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Birthrates are plummeting
Me:
Good.
And you interpret that as me wanting to destroy all humans.
No wonder you can't understand what I've written so far. Your try hard, juvenile, nonsensical question has been answered multiple times. You just can't seem to comprehend.
You say finance is the problem. Like finance just wanders the Earth by itself. Finance and "overconsumption" are all back to human beings. If there's too much of either that equals too much people.
But. What if birth rates plummet and the population starts to shrink?
That would be a good thing.
Scustin Bieburr
Baby baybee baybee UUUGH
We have been in wartime production mode since the 40s.
The amount of people on earth exploded after wwii because so many lives were lost and needed to be replaced. There were programs designed to help those surviving soldiers raise families and rebuild the fighting and consumption capacity of the nation.
Contraception wasn't common, women had little economic mobility, and people were brow beaten into having kids before they were ready by neighbors and family members. It also didn't help that people died sooner, so there was a greater sense of urgency around not missing out on parenthood.
Now there are a number of things going on:
1. People can't afford children. Whatever bonuses these countries are giving out are generally only helping out less than a quarter of the actual costs of raising a child. It's political theater designed to give an impression that they're doing something and a lot of the time it's heavily means tested and only helps a small percentage of people it's supposed to.
2. Estrangement and disowning of parents due to the abuse they exposed their children to has become more common as adults have become more focused on their mental health and introspection. Adults don't give a shyt about winning the approval of a person who humiliated and hurt them at the most vulnerable time of their lives. Previous generations simply pretended they didn't have issues instead of facing them and working on them. It's how you have a grown as man that will have a fukking meltdown because they messed up on his drink at a drive through but refuses to say he has a problem with anger or anxiety. Or the lunatic who drinks a bottle of whiskey every night but refuses to admit he is depressed and alcohol is an escape. Or the moron who says that people are too sensitive but was in a picture screaming at the top of her lungs at a 10 year old black child trying to go to a majority white school. That kind of adult who lives in denial is slowly going away.
3. Other ways of finding fulfillment have reached the forefront of people's minds. They're realizing they can be happy either single or with a partner. They're spending time in online communities that don't exist in their town or city, they're focusing on experiencing things around and about the world before they go. Climate change will destroy certain islands and cities (like venice) so they want to satisfy their curiosity while they still can.
All of these things are coming together to restore human fertility rates to what they would have been prior to WWII. This is bad news for you if you're rich because consumption levels will reduce and labor will be more expensive (e.g. you'll have to actually pay people more)
Right wingers in rich countries want the borders closed. That's all well and good, but that means that the companies actually running those countries can't suppress wages with immigrant labor. Your cleaning crew can't be made up of 75 year olds. You need young people and the only way you're going to get them is by offering higher pay. In America they want to outlaw abortion, contraception and really all manner of family planning because they think they can trap young people into low wage labor(you have to pay for for the expenses of a child you had because your pullout game was weak)
But that's also not a solution because young people are caring less about dating and romance anyway and are content to just hang out with friends to the point where dating apps were literally trying to pressure women to not be celibate.
www.texasstandard.org
They've created a mess because they have been so focused on short term gains they didn't think about the kind of future they're creating. People will still have kids, but they won't be having the number needed to keep this economic house of cards going. The end result will be companies having to be forced to make less goods, pay employees more, and pocket less of the money from sales and wage suppression. You will see a global shrinking of the world economy. It will eventually get to somewhere along the lines of how it was in the early 20th century.
The amount of people on earth exploded after wwii because so many lives were lost and needed to be replaced. There were programs designed to help those surviving soldiers raise families and rebuild the fighting and consumption capacity of the nation.
Contraception wasn't common, women had little economic mobility, and people were brow beaten into having kids before they were ready by neighbors and family members. It also didn't help that people died sooner, so there was a greater sense of urgency around not missing out on parenthood.
Now there are a number of things going on:
1. People can't afford children. Whatever bonuses these countries are giving out are generally only helping out less than a quarter of the actual costs of raising a child. It's political theater designed to give an impression that they're doing something and a lot of the time it's heavily means tested and only helps a small percentage of people it's supposed to.
2. Estrangement and disowning of parents due to the abuse they exposed their children to has become more common as adults have become more focused on their mental health and introspection. Adults don't give a shyt about winning the approval of a person who humiliated and hurt them at the most vulnerable time of their lives. Previous generations simply pretended they didn't have issues instead of facing them and working on them. It's how you have a grown as man that will have a fukking meltdown because they messed up on his drink at a drive through but refuses to say he has a problem with anger or anxiety. Or the lunatic who drinks a bottle of whiskey every night but refuses to admit he is depressed and alcohol is an escape. Or the moron who says that people are too sensitive but was in a picture screaming at the top of her lungs at a 10 year old black child trying to go to a majority white school. That kind of adult who lives in denial is slowly going away.
3. Other ways of finding fulfillment have reached the forefront of people's minds. They're realizing they can be happy either single or with a partner. They're spending time in online communities that don't exist in their town or city, they're focusing on experiencing things around and about the world before they go. Climate change will destroy certain islands and cities (like venice) so they want to satisfy their curiosity while they still can.
All of these things are coming together to restore human fertility rates to what they would have been prior to WWII. This is bad news for you if you're rich because consumption levels will reduce and labor will be more expensive (e.g. you'll have to actually pay people more)
Right wingers in rich countries want the borders closed. That's all well and good, but that means that the companies actually running those countries can't suppress wages with immigrant labor. Your cleaning crew can't be made up of 75 year olds. You need young people and the only way you're going to get them is by offering higher pay. In America they want to outlaw abortion, contraception and really all manner of family planning because they think they can trap young people into low wage labor(you have to pay for for the expenses of a child you had because your pullout game was weak)
But that's also not a solution because young people are caring less about dating and romance anyway and are content to just hang out with friends to the point where dating apps were literally trying to pressure women to not be celibate.
Bumble apologizes for controversial marketing campaign
The ads mocked women for choosing not to date, and created an internet backlash.
www.texasstandard.org
They've created a mess because they have been so focused on short term gains they didn't think about the kind of future they're creating. People will still have kids, but they won't be having the number needed to keep this economic house of cards going. The end result will be companies having to be forced to make less goods, pay employees more, and pocket less of the money from sales and wage suppression. You will see a global shrinking of the world economy. It will eventually get to somewhere along the lines of how it was in the early 20th century.
We have been in wartime production mode since the 40s.
The amount of people on earth exploded after wwii because so many lives were lost and needed to be replaced. There were programs designed to help those surviving soldiers raise families and rebuild the fighting and consumption capacity of the nation.
Contraception wasn't common, women had little economic mobility, and people were brow beaten into having kids before they were ready by neighbors and family members. It also didn't help that people died sooner, so there was a greater sense of urgency around not missing out on parenthood.
Now there are a number of things going on:
1. People can't afford children. Whatever bonuses these countries are giving out are generally only helping out less than a quarter of the actual costs of raising a child. It's political theater designed to give an impression that they're doing something and a lot of the time it's heavily means tested and only helps a small percentage of people it's supposed to.
2. Estrangement and disowning of parents due to the abuse they exposed their children to has become more common as adults have become more focused on their mental health and introspection. Adults don't give a shyt about winning the approval of a person who humiliated and hurt them at the most vulnerable time of their lives. Previous generations simply pretended they didn't have issues instead of facing them and working on them. It's how you have a grown as man that will have a fukking meltdown because they messed up on his drink at a drive through but refuses to say he has a problem with anger or anxiety. Or the lunatic who drinks a bottle of whiskey every night but refuses to admit he is depressed and alcohol is an escape. Or the moron who says that people are too sensitive but was in a picture screaming at the top of her lungs at a 10 year old black child trying to go to a majority white school. That kind of adult who lives in denial is slowly going away.
3. Other ways of finding fulfillment have reached the forefront of people's minds. They're realizing they can be happy either single or with a partner. They're spending time in online communities that don't exist in their town or city, they're focusing on experiencing things around and about the world before they go. Climate change will destroy certain islands and cities (like venice) so they want to satisfy their curiosity while they still can.
All of these things are coming together to restore human fertility rates to what they would have been prior to WWII. This is bad news for you if you're rich because consumption levels will reduce and labor will be more expensive (e.g. you'll have to actually pay people more)
Right wingers in rich countries want the borders closed. That's all well and good, but that means that the companies actually running those countries can't suppress wages with immigrant labor. Your cleaning crew can't be made up of 75 year olds. You need young people and the only way you're going to get them is by offering higher pay. In America they want to outlaw abortion, contraception and really all manner of family planning because they think they can trap young people into low wage labor(you have to pay for for the expenses of a child you had because your pullout game was weak)
But that's also not a solution because young people are caring less about dating and romance anyway and are content to just hang out with friends to the point where dating apps were literally trying to pressure women to not be celibate.
Bumble apologizes for controversial marketing campaign
The ads mocked women for choosing not to date, and created an internet backlash.
They've created a mess because they have been so focused on short term gains they didn't think about the kind of future they're creating. People will still have kids, but they won't be having the number needed to keep this economic house of cards going. The end result will be companies having to be forced to make less goods, pay employees more, and pocket less of the money from sales and wage suppression. You will see a global shrinking of the world economy. It will eventually get to somewhere along the lines of how it was in the early 20th century.
All this. Rep.Not facts humans are a net positive good for the world.
If lions could they'd kill every last gazelle even if that meant they would starve
They'd also literally kill themselves male lions routinely kill the cubs of other lions which is why only female lions live in prides to protect their cubs from male lions including their own sons
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With the climate and the cost of living it is no surprise people don't want to have kids
It depends are you down to be a farmer in the middle of nowhere or a hunter gatherer that will die at 30?
I'm on my way to Starbucks I'll get the standard Marino blend chances are you will get the same you need billions of people to create the economy to argue on the internet or get coffee from halfway around the world..
Actually to thread the needle the world is perfect as it is in Marino there's poverty and its controlled by drug gangs there's no hospitals they get sick if they can't to literally where I am about 8 hours away they'll die.
My ex'es moms has diabetes she gets her meds here thanks to her daughter if her daughter hadn't moved to the city shed already been dead.
As fukked up as it sounds its best that people are born but die way before they get old.
Its because things are too good is why women don't want kids
Don't worry the world will reset itself
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
The government is the reason for the decline. All these GMOs and artificial shyt we consuming is FDA approved
I vote to give the Bonobos a go at it. Maybe they will do a better job at it than we did.
