Bill Maher attacks Hollywood for gun violence in movies..

[The Devil's Advocate]

It doesn't logically extend to it.

Everyone experiences sexuality....not everyone experiences the urge to shoot people.

Sexual preferences, kinks, etc. can be linked to events in a child's life....this is psychology 101.

"This guy shot up a school" is never linked to "well, he watched 'Rambo'"....unless:

1. The person was already clearly nuts.

2. That angle is being used by a politician, making the argument disingenuously. If it's not movies it's video games. If it's not video games it's rap music.

Which brings me to my next point....

Drill music is an anomaly because it's not just violent or negative music. There is real life beefs tied into it, 99.99% of the time. Half these guys aren't actually rappers. They're just goons that rap.

The bar to rap is so low now, literally anyone can do it. And I don't mean quality. I mean, if you have a cell phone you can record a song, a video, and upload it in like 20 minutes. You could do that right now.

So these guys, that are already heavy in the streets, do this....get shot or go to jail....then people say "oh, rap is bad." When they were never really "on" as a rapper.

Again, De La Soul don't have these issues.

Fred.

Actually the fbi does list violent movies in the chart of 5 reasons why mass shooters do what they do. It’s literally in the video

 

[phillycavsfan]

This is dumb. Every country makes movies with gun violence. Ours translates to real life the most because we have no gun control.

 

[hex]

Actually the fbi does list violent movies in the chart of 5 reasons why mass shooters do what they do. It’s literally in the video

Mass shooters aren't mentally healthy to begin with. which was my point.

A child's sexuality can be affected by external forces.

A normal child isn't going to turn into a serial killer by watching violent movies, though.

I know several people that have sexual preferences, body types, etc. based on what they saw or experienced at a young age.

I know zero mass shooters, despite all of them growing up on 80's action movies, slasher flicks, etc.

It's apples and oranges.

Fred.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Mass shooters aren't mentally healthy to begin with. which was my point.

A child's sexuality can be affected by external forces.

A normal child isn't going to turn into a serial killer by watching violent movies, though.

I know several people that have sexual preferences, body types, etc. based on what they saw or experienced at a young age.

I know zero mass shooters, despite all of them growing up on 80's action movies, slasher flicks, etc.

It's apples and oranges.

Fred.

Ok remove mass shooters… is Hollywood contributing to the love affair with guns?

Is the love affair with guns, one of the reasons why most Americans don’t want to give them up?


That’s the point. Hollywood will cut off any gay bashing and make sure to put a gay couple in a movie because of the influence it could have. But don’t think Jon wick and his wall of guns and killing 100 people in gun fu moves, influences us to want 15 guns for some imaginary robber

 

[King Poetic]

Everything in America is the blame game

Blame movies
Blame rap

No accountability or responsibility of the home

 

[The Guru]

Bill Maher talks about wars in the middle east with glee and smugness. fukk him at any at all times.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

People don't wanna admit that Gun Culture is a huge part of American culture.

I’d go as far to say it isn’t even gun culture that’s the problem. It’s the people…or maybe it’s the foundation of this country

Up north(Canada) they have gun culture and have access to the same media we do. And yet

 

[Sonny Bonds]

But Maher also complained about how the Oscars nominees were movies that didn't appeal to the masses. I think he mentioned both CODA and The Power of the Dog.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The whole gun/LGBTQ parallel doesn't really work beyond being an internet hot take.

Sexuality is an inherent part of human nature for everyone, and can be affected by external forces.

Unless you're a complete fukking sociopath, "let me go shoot a bunch of people" is not an inherent part of human nature, no matter how many movies you watch.

Fred.

Violence is human nature though and a gun is simply a tool to do so

 

[br82186]

Ole girl who was on the panel killed both Maher and the other guy.

 

[br82186]

Also, the fcck is he talking about??? Films of today aren't as violent as the films in decades past.

This sounds like some bs to put the blame on film like they do with video games

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

It's easier to blame video games and hip hop

 

[Nero Christ]

Americans get sensitive when you point out the huge flaws in various aspects of this culture but the truth is, there is a huge cultural problem in this country with how guns & violence are seen.

Nobody bats an eye at the hero gunning down dozens and dozens of people in a movie, but you better not show one tiddy in that process cause think about the children smh.

 

[ShaDynasty]

I don't think seeing some pixar sissies kiss is going to make anyone turn gay. But I guess it could turn people that are bicurious?

The same argument extends to guns. People do get ideas from movies.

As I said before I don't think its the root of the problem. It doesn't help, but its pointless to even talk about this without addressing the 2nd amendment. 230 years ago slavery was legal, and americans somehow think the founding fathers were infallible on letting every tom, dikk and piece of shyt own a gun?

 

[NSSVO]

Not trying to be a smart ass but does that apply to Hip Hop also?

That’s different because it’s tied into culture