Bill Clinton's diet: beans, veggies, and fruit

[bouncy]

It's harder to get complete proteins on a vegetarian diet, much less a vegan one.



Basically, if you're on a vegetarian/vegan diet you aren't really getting complete proteins, so you have to rely on combining incomplete proteins to get an adequate amount of each type.

Again, I'm not saying that you can't get the protein you need, obviously you can by combining proteins if you know what you're doing, but it seems risky to have a kid on a vegan/vegetarian diet. You mess up and you could stunt the kid's growth, or worse.

Here we go again

You eat your grains, nuts/seeds, and beans to make a complete protein which you will be doing anyway if you want to be full and healthy. Secondly, you don't have to eat everything at the same time to achieve this goal. As long as you get these foods before you go to sleep, and start a new day, you are ok. Thirdly, this is actually a good thing because eating foods low in protein or in technical terms amino acids, at night allows for a deeper sleep which means a better healing of the body as the body heals itself during sleep.

That thought of needing to eat all of your beans and grains/nuts/seeds at the same time to make complete protein is old and wrong. Do more research and see for yourself that I'm not making any of this up.

 

[zerozero]

it's a strawman because no one said "meat is an unskippable requirement for kids"

it's frustrating for me because I try so hard to choose my words carefully to avoid any confusion, AND I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS CRAP

(you owe me a new keyboard)

you and I got into an exchange because I was responding to TUH, who is still railing about phantoms

 

[Type Username Here]

you and I got into an exchange because I was responding to TUH, who is still railing about phantoms

I didn't take you for a denier of science friend.

We are omnivores by design. I'm not saying that a developed adult can't turn to a vegan or vegetarianism diet. But denying children their biological needs isn't something we should advocate.

 

[bouncy]

I just realized this is the second time in the last few daze I called lotty's thinking dangerous

on Bob Marley dying of cancer:

Look, just because you don't believe or haven't witnessed healing yourself, there is no reason to treat me like I'm lying. You, and people like you, are why I don't believe the world will experience the blessings food and herbs can give, and have peace in this world, because you don't want to believe due to something in you, but I don't hate you just feel sorry for you because you believe the lie you was tuaght. Peace to you though.

 

[zerozero]

I didn't take you for a denier of science friend.

We are omnivores by design. I'm not saying that a developed adult can't turn to a vegan or vegetarianism diet. But denying children their biological needs isn't something we should advocate.

You're confusing culinary convention for science. Google it and show me the research, then, if you think someone has to eat meat to grow and think. It certainly isn't the case for many millions of kids on this side of the world.

 

[bouncy]

These people deny biological, anthropological and anatomical evidence that we are omnivores by design.

I don't have a problem with anyone being a vegan, vegetarianism, or following a Inuit diet. But anyone who says the human body is not meant to consume meat, or the human body shouldn't eat veggies is denying decades of evidence.

These are usually the same who deny the benefits of vaccination, and just deny Western Medicine outright.

I treat them like I treat climate change deniers.

How can you claim we are meant to eat meat by anthropological evidence when that is the diet we have been eating due to not knowing how to eat the way I stated?. In order to have a fact in science you need comparisons, and vegetarians who eat all the things I described are rare, so you are basing your fact on one view which is bad science. I have been on both sides and seen for myself the effects. I speak from knowledge AND experience not from a theory based on thousands of years ago from people who had no choice but to eat meat based on a lack of knowledge, but do you. When the pain comes you are the one who will feel it, not me. Peace to you.

 

[Type Username Here]

You're confusing culinary convention for science. Google it and show me the research, then, if you think someone has to eat meat to grow and think. It certainly isn't the case for many millions of kids on this side of the world.

zerozero, I'm not denying that some cultures eat differently. Did you read the Inuit diet? They mostly eat animal fat and blubber. I'm sure there are cultures who eat differently and do fine.

I'm saying, by every scientific, anthropological, biological, anatomical evidence, we are designed to be omnivores. Are you denying this?

 

[daze23]

you and I got into an exchange because I was responding to TUH, who is still railing about phantoms

will you admit that it was a strawman, and that neither I (who you responded to first and referred to when responding to TUH) or TUH said "meat is an unskippable requirement for kids"

 

[Type Username Here]

How can you claim we are meant to eat meat by anthropological evidence when that is the diet we have been eating due to not knowing how to eat the way I stated?. In order to have a fact in science you need comparisons, and vegetarians who eat all the things I described are rare, so you are basing your fact on one view which is bad science. I have been on both sides and seen for myself the effects. I speak from knowledge AND experience not from a theory based on thousands of years ago from people who had no choice but to eat meat based on a lack of knowledge, but do you. When the pain comes you are the one who will feel it, not me. Peace to you.

Anthropological evidence shows that early humanoids ate meat. Why did you think they would risk exposing themselves to hunt prey if they didn't need it? Why do you think human beings domesticated livestock for consumption?

Get out of here with your fukking Whole Foods PhD. I don't fukk with science deniers.

 

[Serious]

This is why I hate dieting threads

There's more than 1 way to diet, either why you're going to eventually die.....

 

[daze23]

Look, just because you don't believe or haven't witnessed healing yourself, there is no reason to treat me like I'm lying. You, and people like you, are why I don't believe the world will experience the blessings food and herbs can give, and have peace in this world, because you don't want to believe due to something in you, but I don't hate you just feel sorry for you because you believe the lie you was tuaght. Peace to you though.

if you've seen it and can prove it, there's plenty of fame, fortune, and sick people waiting for you

 

[bouncy]

I didn't take you for a denier of science friend.

We are omnivores by design. I'm not saying that a developed adult can't turn to a vegan or vegetarianism diet. But denying children their biological needs isn't something we should advocate.

Tell that to the millions of vegetarians in India

 

[Type Username Here]

This people all claim that we were lied to and forced to eat meat by "they" when we have documented early man's diet already. We know they hunted prey. We know the earliest civilizations sought to domesticate livestock. This is all before capitalism and advertisement.

Get out of here with that shyt.

 

[zerozero]

zerozero, I'm not denying that some cultures eat differently. Did you read the Inuit diet? They mostly eat animal fat and blubber. I'm sure there are cultures who eat differently and do fine.

I'm saying, by every scientific, anthropological, biological, anatomical evidence, we are designed to be omnivores. Are you denying this?

No of course not. But I also don't think development genetics defines required behavior. I'm just confused that you're sometimes on your super rational empirical kick and sometimes you're just blinded by traditional happenstance. Saying vegetarianism is dangerous for kids is completely inaccurate.

 

[Type Username Here]

Tell that to the millions of vegetarians in India

Tell that to the millions of Siberians and Inuit natives who eat mainly animal fat as their source of nutrition.