Big Sean Juelzing Like a Coli Breh when Asked Why He Had Baby with Jhene but Didn't Marry Her.

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Well my first choice is for them to be married, but like i said I don't hold out hope for the institution, so I also would tell them along with the other thing I mentioned, that they would find men that wouldn't leave them stranded even if the relationship wouldn't work out.

Children are much more likely to end up married if their parents were or are married.
 

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Y’all are in here admitting why a lot of women stay unmarried into their 40s. In other threads, it’s all “they chose the wrong men, or something is wrong with them”, when in reality, a lot of men will string women along for years, hoping he will marry her, and he doesn’t. Then, she’s expected to leave a man she’s in love with, and just go find someone else. It’s hard meeting people you are attracted to, and compatible with.

Men will have a good woman, and use her as a placeholder waiting for someone he really wants to marry, or never want marriage at all, but not admit it to keep her around.
And there are plenty of men that would marry her, she just doesn't want to give any of them a chance

If your habits aren't netting you the results you want then you need to adjust your habits.

Life is all about making hard decisions. He'll yeah she should leave. And I say that as a major Big Sean fan
 

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I was in a situation like this before. Good woman. Was down for me. There was zero reason to not marry her—we matched on everything. Except I still had trauma to deal with, not enough experiences under my belt, and a lot of immaturity to filter out. I kept getting tempted to cheat and had lots of opportunities. I never did but I came way too close too many times and rather than actually cheating on her I very painfully decided to leave out of respect. She ended up finding a good man that loves her and got married. But at least I got to walk away with the respect between us still intact, even though I devastated her when I left.
I have a very similar story
 

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Y’all are in here admitting why a lot of women stay unmarried into their 40s. In other threads, it’s all “they chose the wrong men, or something is wrong with them”, when in reality, a lot of men will string women along for years, hoping he will marry her, and he doesn’t. Then, she’s expected to leave a man she’s in love with, and just go find someone else. It’s hard meeting people you are attracted to, and compatible with.

Men will have a good woman, and use her as a placeholder waiting for someone he really wants to marry, or never want marriage at all, but not admit it to keep her around.

I had the exact same thought when I went through the comments in the this thread

Shout out to you two gentlemen.
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And there are plenty of men that would marry her, she just doesn't want to give any of them a chance

If your habits aren't netting you the results you want then you need to adjust your habits.

Life is all about making hard decisions. He'll yeah she should leave. And I say that as a major Big Sean fan
In general, you are right.


The issue is the Black community doesn’t give young women this message.
And it doesn’t give young men the message to BE this kind of guy.

More young women should be dropping dudes left and right until they find the right guy.
But there should be more men who are ready to be the right guy.

We can talk about the college educated dudes who are on track for marriage by 30, and the blue collar guys who are skilled and settled in their careers by 30 who are also on track, but how many of them do we have?

I get the sense that the kids coming up now have seen the dysfunction, here the conversations and they will make different decisions.

But the same way a girl has to realize that her time is being wasted, we need to produce more young men who are actually on the hunt for a wife in their late 20s/ by 30. Young men who will actually drop a girl because they know she isn’t who they want.

As a community both sexes aren’t socialized to prioritize marriage.
 

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can’t stand when MFs ask questions like this. Mind ya biz
Why is this news? Seriously who gives a shyt? How is it anyone's business or concern as to why he refuses to marry her? :what:

I know that there's always been an infatuation with celebrities and their lives but it's become worse these days, full on parasocial obsession now.

Boy, y'all love to downplay the dysfunctional dynamic of this babymama, babydaddy culture. They had a super public relationship and opened it up to public commentary.
 
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In general, you are right.


The issue is the Black community doesn’t give young women this message.
And it doesn’t give young men the message to BE this kind of guy.

More young women should be dropping dudes left and right until they find the right guy.
But there should be more men who are ready to be the right guy.

We can talk about the college educated dudes who are on track for marriage by 30, and the blue collar guys who are skilled and settled in their careers by 30 who are also on track, but how many of them do we have?

I get the sense that the kids coming up now have seen the dysfunction, here the conversations and they will make different decisions.

But the same way a girl has to realize that her time is being wasted, we need to produce more young men who are actually on the hunt for a wife in their late 20s/ by 30. Young men who will actually drop a girl because they know she isn’t who they want.

As a community both sexes aren’t socialized to prioritize marriage.

Seems like the only way the mindset will change on a community-wide scale in America is if there's a massive economic depression where Black people are literally forced to have strong families and community to survive. And the most dysfunctional who refuse to get it together die out.

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Boy, y'all love to downplay the dysfunctional dynamic of this babymama, babydaddy culture. They had a super public relationship and opened it up to public commentary.

I've seen coli threads where people are flexing their 2 parent upbringing; how the great colleges they went to; and the now 6figure IT Jobs they have.

There was a lot of posters doing that.


I swear these people are trolling; if not its a shame to be so "smart" but be so ignorant.


I'm not a coli detective but I wouldn't be surprised if its the same posters shooting bail.
 

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In general, you are right.


The issue is the Black community doesn’t give young women this message.
And it doesn’t give young men the message to BE this kind of guy.

More young women should be dropping dudes left and right until they find the right guy.
But there should be more men who are ready to be the right guy.

We can talk about the college educated dudes who are on track for marriage by 30, and the blue collar guys who are skilled and settled in their careers by 30 who are also on track, but how many of them do we have?

I get the sense that the kids coming up now have seen the dysfunction, here the conversations and they will make different decisions.

But the same way a girl has to realize that her time is being wasted, we need to produce more young men who are actually on the hunt for a wife in their late 20s/ by 30. Young men who will actually drop a girl because they know she isn’t who they want.

As a community both sexes aren’t socialized to prioritize marriage.
This is a fairly new phenomenon to current culture and not really something older generations are putting people on game to because they don’t understand it and haven’t experienced it. This is a completely anecdotal opinion, but people aren’t seeking relationships the way they did in prior generations, so no one can really put anybody on game to the current dating scene. My parents generation was expected to marry before having kids and was the first generation of divorces, my generation was also expected to marry but people weren’t getting married because of kids like they used to. They had kids, may or may not end up married to the people they had kids with, but eventually end up married to someone.

This generation seems that it can give or take not just marriages, but relationships in general. People are having kids with people they aren’t even in relationships with and/or people they are in a very tenuous relationships with (like Jhene and Sean). There’s also people in their early to mid 20s who’ve never been in a relationship at all.

“Teaching women better” in this age is looking more like if you can’t find anyone serious, that you’re also interested in, then you may just not be with anyone and may have to be single for a long time. Young men and women also tie a lot of their social value and self esteem to being appreciated and successful with the opposite sex. So it's difficult to not enjoy company with the opposite sex. Everyone seems a bit too caught up in appearance and sex, which is another dynamic causing difficulty. Again, this is a bit anecdotal and from what I see and hear.
 
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