Bible Verse: Deuteronomy 18:18
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The Psalms were not narrated by Jesus. I don't know what else to tell you. No scripture in Psalm is attributed to Jesus.
The Gospel scripture that you posted was narrated by Jesus. Jesus was quoting the Psalm. But he was not the psalmist of that quote.
I'll ask again. Where in the Psalm does it say Jesus will not die?
Before I respond to all of your other points. Point to me the verse in the Koran that says that Toranic and Biblical scriptures are corrupted.
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Dorian Gray said:
The Quran actually affirms the authority, preservation, and inspiration of the Torah and New Testament, so that won't happen without proving the Quran is false.
Which is why its pointless for me to defend points in the Old and New Testaments when the Koran itself upholds their authority.
We can either point out the verses that say that the scriptures are corrupted or point out the verses that uphold the scriptures authority and then question why the Koran contradicts Biblical scriptures while simultaneously claiming the scripture to not be corrupted.
The Quran does say that the Zubur (Psalms), Torah, and Injeel (Gospel) were sent down to guide people but they were also corrupted over time through mistranslations, wrong interpretations, etc.
Here are some verses:
Surah [3:78]: And there is indeed a group among them who twist their tongues with the book, that you may suppose it to be from the book. But it is not from the book. And they say, “It is from God,” though it is not from God. And they knowingly speak a lie against God.
Surah [4:46]: Among those who are Jews are those who distort the meaning of the word, and say, “We hear and disobey,” and “Hear, as one who hears not!” and “Attend to us!” twisting their tongues and disparaging religion. And had they said, “We hear and obey” and “Listen” and “Regard us,” it would have been better for them and more proper. But God cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.
Surah [5:13]: Then for their breaking of their covenant, we cursed them and hardened their hearts. They distort the meaning of the word, and have forgotten part of that whereof they were reminded. Thou wilt not cease to discover their treachery, from all save a few of them. Pardon them, then, and overlook their deeds. Surely Allah loves those who do good deeds.
Surah [2:79]: So woe unto those who write the book with their hands, then say, “This is from God,” that they may sell it for a paltry price. So woe unto them for what their hands have written and woe unto them for what they earn.
The Quran is the final testament and Allah said that it would not suffer the fate of the other testaments that were tampered with.
That's why the Quran was preserved only a couple of years after the Prophet's (PBUH) death by Abu Bakr (RA) and Uthman (RA) codified the Quran about 20 years later.
There was no room for tampering whatsoever.
The Quran isn't according to anyone (like the Gospels) but directly from the source and has been the exact same for 1400 years.
Christians and Jews can't say the same about their books.
you have to consider who Jesus is before you continue asking questions
what is a prophet ultimately trying to do when he scribes?Psalms are not prophecy per se but prayers. Consider Psalm 73...who is he talking about?
why did the greeks have a story of a "labyrinth" with a minotaur in it that its captives are fed too
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If yall grew up in east Asia you’d all be Buddhists or something and be ready to die over that just the same. 
I can’t take any “religious” person seriously until they’ve openly studied something beyond what they’ve been indoctrinated with since birth.
I can’t take any “religious” person seriously until they’ve openly studied something beyond what they’ve been indoctrinated with since birth.
The Quran does say that the Zubur (Psalms), Torah, and Injeel (Gospel) were sent down to guide people but they were also corrupted over time through mistranslations, wrong interpretations, etc.
Here are some verses:
Surah [3:78]: And there is indeed a group among them who twist their tongues with the book, that you may suppose it to be from the book. But it is not from the book. And they say, “It is from God,” though it is not from God. And they knowingly speak a lie against God.
Surah [4:46]: Among those who are Jews are those who distort the meaning of the word, and say, “We hear and disobey,” and “Hear, as one who hears not!” and “Attend to us!” twisting their tongues and disparaging religion. And had they said, “We hear and obey” and “Listen” and “Regard us,” it would have been better for them and more proper. But God cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.
Surah [5:13]: Then for their breaking of their covenant, we cursed them and hardened their hearts. They distort the meaning of the word, and have forgotten part of that whereof they were reminded. Thou wilt not cease to discover their treachery, from all save a few of them. Pardon them, then, and overlook their deeds. Surely Allah loves those who do good deeds.
Surah [2:79]: So woe unto those who write the book with their hands, then say, “This is from God,” that they may sell it for a paltry price. So woe unto them for what their hands have written and woe unto them for what they earn.
The Quran is the final testament and Allah said that it would not suffer the fate of the other testaments that were tampered with.
That's why the Quran was preserved only a couple of years after the Prophet's (PBUH) death by Abu Bakr (RA) and Uthman (RA) codified the Quran about 20 years later.
There was no room for tampering whatsoever.
The Quran isn't according to anyone (like the Gospels) but directly from the source and has been the exact same for 1400 years.
Christians and Jews can't say the same about their books.
while these points are valid...the Quran suffers the same fate as those books
it is by the sword that its interpretation is maintained. Consider other sects within Islam and you will see that its no different.
Even amongst Jews there were Hellenistic ones (Sadducees) and Legalistic (Pharisees; modern children of the book)
how could Judaism be hellenized?
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If yall grew up in east Asia you’d all be Buddhists or something and be ready to die over that just the same.
I can’t take any “religious” person seriously until they’ve openly studied something beyond what they’ve been indoctrinated with since birth.
Buddhism isnt the oldest eastern belief
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Anhur said:
None of those verses are talking about the Torah or the NT being corrupted. They refer to a specific minority of PEOPLE who distort the meanings, not the texts, by misinterpreting. If, however, you take those to mean the TEXT was corrupted, then you just proved Islam is false.
Before we highlight the corruption for you, Let's begin by asking what version of the Bible do you accept?
NIV? King James? What Bible do you read?
