Ben Affleck is Batman for "Man of Steel" Sequel

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using common sense and bringing up stats is a cop out? :russ: at this child lookin at this like it involves winning and losing :rudy:

They're is nothing common about your sense. You're talking about how MOS underperformed when it went on to do 650 milly worldwide and jump started the Justice League and even got a sequel. If we go by your idiotic logic, why did Superman Returns only do 380 milly considering he's the most most hailed superhero/comic book character in history? The poor performance even scrapped a sequel.

C'mon funboy, your argument lost.
 

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How people compare Avengers, which was the culmination of like 5 different movies and franchises that built up towards it.......to Man of Steel, which was the first movie in the reboot of a brand new universe, is beyond me. I wouldn't say it did bad at all all things considered. Everyone knows this sequel with Batman will do even better from the jump.

Exactly. MOS did what it was intended considering it was a reboot with an unknown lead.
 

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u think after a 33 year gap the studio projected 290,265,876 for the most hailed superhero/comic book character in history? i will just leave it there.The rest of your post just shows your age
What 33 year gap? Superman Returns came out in what 2006? The fact that Superman Returns was not a very well received movie was another hurdle that MOS had to overcome along with a lot of people's dismissal of Superman being a goody goody boring boy scout.
And MOS is a success, there is no arguing that fact regardless of what metric you try to use to say it isn't.
 

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The whole justice league is more famous than every avenger pretty much though . I don't get why people acting like a role from years ago (daredevil) defines Ben Affleck. Chris Evans was hated on , Chris hemsworth was a guy from a Aussie soap opera 5 minutes of Star Trek and like 15 minutes of a perfect getaway . Robert Downey jr was doubted too smh , Heath ledger of course .
The thing is he clearly has the talent to play batman everything else is the script and direction generally so that's what we have to see , but acting like the man can't act enough to be batman is silly


I think its just the running streak of shyt movies and flops dude had a while back that were very visible is still stuck in peoples aheads.....the movies he got critical acclaim for not as many people saw those....it was a running joke for a while Ben affleck made shytty movies that flopped and his acting wasn't nuthing to write home about....alotta folks still have that perception of him:manny:....people won't NOT see this movie just bcuz he's in it so he can prove people wrong who still have that old perception...or he will embarrass everybody in here vouching for him if his performance sucks and the movie stinks:ufdup:
 

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You're talking about how MOS underperformed when it went on to do 650 milly worldwide and jump started the Justice League and even got a sequel..
Is english your first language breh? under performing is not the same as flopped.No one said it didnt make money it just didnt crush buildings like they were anticipating.With the superman canon + nolan at the helm + snyder visuals they were obviously hoping to hit it out of the park and break records, they fell way below that.And you keep using MoS as what spurned the motivation to kickstart justice league and a sequel, which is just a fallacy.WB/DC were contemplating a JL movie the moment they saw the reception for avengers. And with nolan producing the 1st movie MoS WAS ALWAYS DESTINED TO BE A FRANCHISE
If we go by your idiotic logic, why did Superman Returns only do 380 milly considering he's the most most hailed superhero/comic book character in history? The poor performance even scrapped a sequel. .
Because it was a shyt movie? :why:The fact that such a turd of a movie did that much at all is because it was superman.And why it didnt lead to a sequel could've been a myriad of reasons.If u are old enough to remember it was planned just off the strength that studios believed singer could right the wrong but it never materialized
 

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What 33 year gap? Superman Returns came out in what 2006?
Dude if you what to be a smartass u cud also mention the 2 other supermans chris reeves did in the 80s.Obviously i was trying to convey that the last real superman movie was superman II :beli:
The fact that Superman Returns was not a very well received movie was another hurdle that MOS had to overcome along with a lot of people's dismissal of Superman being a goody goody boring boy scout.
Just like batman begins, right? :mjpls: u cant play that shyt again.Ppl knew with nolan at the helm this wasnt going to be the superman we knew and it built intrigue.
And MOS is a success, there is no arguing that fact regardless of what metric you try to use to say it isn't.
I never said it was a failure it just didnt reach the success the studios hoped.Bringin in bats to help push units kind of punctuates this but its whatever.
 

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Is english your first language breh? under performing is not the same as flopped.No one said it didnt make money it just didnt crush buildings like they were anticipating.With the superman canon + nolan at the helm + snyder visuals they were obviously hoping to hit it out of the park and break records, they fell way below that.And you keep using MoS as what spurned the motivation to kickstart justice league and a sequel, which is just a fallacy.WB/DC were contemplating a JL movie the moment they saw the reception for avengers. And with nolan producing the 1st movie MoS WAS ALWAYS DESTINED TO BE A FRANCHISE
Because it was a shyt movie? :why:The fact that such a turd of a movie did that much at all is because it was superman.And why it didnt lead to a sequel could've been a myriad of reasons.If u are old enough to remember it was planned just off the strength that studios believed singer could right the wrong but it never materialized

Again, where are you getting this information that the studious were anticipating more? You're just assuming that with the success of the avengers and the iron mans, that MOS should be up there in terms of doing the billion dollar threshold. All of this nonsense of hitting it out the park and breaking records is your opinion. MOS being 3rd in terms of sales in a crowded summer where big budget movies where flopping left and right speaks volumes.
 

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Again, where are you getting this information that the studious were anticipating more? You're just assuming that with the success of the avengers and the iron mans, that MOS should be up there in terms of doing the billion dollar threshold.
I never even mentioned avengers but given the fact its superman + nolan now has a proven track record to muster 83,446,419 more than begins is underwhelming.If you think thats what the studios/producers projected when MoS was in its inception u dont know anything about business..
MOS being 3rd in terms of sales in a crowded summer where big budget movies where flopping left and right speaks volumes.
erm....do u think that anchors your argument? u are basically saying MoS is 3rd because this summer has been filled with flops.MoS bein one of the few movies not to stink it up isnt a sign of anything but the fact that the summer of 2013 has had lots of missfires but they would've sucked regardles.Just like MoS will always be an ok movie that achieved moderate success (but underperformed) regardless what summer it came out :ld:
 

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I never even mentioned avengers but given the fact its superman + nolan now has a proven track record to muster 83,446,419 more than begins is underwhelming.If you think thats what the studios/producers projected when MoS was in its inception u dont know anything about business..erm....do u think that anchors your argument? u are basically saying MoS is 3rd because this summer has been filled with flops.MoS bein one of the few movies not to stink it up isnt a sign of anything but the fact that the summer of 2013 has had lots of missfires but they would've sucked regardles.Just like MoS will always be an ok movie that achieved moderate success (but underperformed) regardless what summer it came out :ld:
Stop making shyt up man . Mos is a success only 2 marvel movies made more money Than it , one im3 and the others the avengers
"It's more than just a franchise for us, it really opens up the door to do combinations of the DC Comics characters," Dan Fellman, president of domestic distribution for Warner Bros., is quoted in a Wall Street Journal article. "We can build them up like Marvel did and benefit from the history of DC."

Your using your personal opinion to say its underperformed ( which it probably did critically ) but not financially . Only 2 dc movies grossed more and the first batman reboot and superman reboot couldn't do the same . Using your logic when Thor ( which most likely isn't going to outsell supes) doesn't do a billion it's a flop, cap 2 , gotg , etc .......I'm sure Warner's wanted a billion but they are more than happy with this gross

Update, 6/17: Man of Steel opened to an estimated $128.7m its debut weekend, including Thursday shows. While obviously well short of Iron Man 3's 2013-record $174.14m, the figure is well north of most expectations heading into the weekend and a new June opening weekend record.

“In North America, Superman audiences thumbed their noses at the negative reviews from film critics and gave it an ‘A-’ CinemaScore," a Warner Bros. executive reportedly told Deadline.com, addressing the apparent disconnect between critics and moviegoers over the quality of the film. "Man Of Steel beat all expectations."

Perhaps most importantly, while Man of Steel is earning higher 3-D revenue and ticket prices are generally higher overall, the film is vastly outperforming 2006's Superman Returns, which had an opening weekend of $52.54m, and a five-day start of $84.59m (it opened on a Wednesday).
 

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Stop making shyt up man . Mos is a success only 2 marvel movies made more money Than it , one im3 and the others the avengers
so ironman 1 and 2 dont exist now? :russ: fukk marvel, we going to conveneintly forget the spiderman franchise now aye? :mjpls:
"It's more than just a franchise for us, it really opens up the door to do combinations of the DC Comics characters," Dan Fellman, president of domestic distribution for Warner Bros., is quoted in a Wall Street Journal article. "We can build them up like Marvel did and benefit from the history of DC."
And the point of this quote is what? everyone knew once WB saw what marvel did with avengers they were goin to replicate it with dc
Your using your personal opinion to say its underperformed ( which it probably did critically ) but not financially .
I already touched on the critical part that much is obvious the finacial? :ehh:
Only 2 dc movies grossed more and the first batman reboot and superman reboot couldn't do the same . Using your logic when Thor ( which most likely isn't going to outsell supes) doesn't do a billion it's a flop, cap 2 , gotg , etc .......I'm sure Warner's wanted a billion but they are more than happy with this gross.
u lost me here and probably havent been paying attention.The fukk r u using thor as an example for is he synonymous with the word superhero/comic book movie like superman is
 
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