'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I really don't get this age thing you keep bringing up. At the end of the day, majority of these films are PG-13. Plenty of kids go to see these movies. A rated R Deadpool movie made $760 million and would have made more had it came out in China, so the age thing or MCU connection don't hold up.

I mean you say don't see why it was expected to hit a billion but I find that hard to believe. A studio doesn't spend over $400 million in hopes of barely making a profit.

I'm just going to keep responding to this with IM3 vs TDKR. If all pg 13 movies apeal to the same audience. If the popularity of the characters matter. Then why did IM3 destroy TDKR?


As for what a company spends, they can spend whatever they want. It still doesn't affect the market

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I disagree man. A great flick is a great flick and dark knight still holds up. And yeah I think it could. Dude the buzz of that movie was insane. It was an event film. It made close to 600 million in the states alone.

Maybe. So what you're saying is DC has to make the greatest cbm ever to hit IM3 money

 

[Jazzy B.]

I'm really confused as to what your argument is. Mine is whether it got good reviews or not it still wouldn't have came close to Civil war, IM3, or Avengers because The age threshold is a little older than the MCU.

My evidence is IM3 shytting on TDKR with basically identical critical acclaim.

People should stop comparing DC films to the MCU because that battle is already over. GotG2, Spider-man will both out gross the top DC flick guaranteed

You're talking about critic reviews when audience reception is what matters as that affects how much the film makes and how it holds up after the opening and in the long run.

Batman vs Superman just needed an average audience response and it would have easily cleared $1billion plus. Instead it was received on par with a movie like Wolverine: Origins and crashed almost everywhere after it's first week.

"Age threshold" when The Dark Knight Rises made more money than Iron Man 3 domestically, in The U.K, Germany and Australia whilst being marginally behind Iron Man 3 in places such as France, Japan, Italy

The only major difference between Iron Man 3 and The Dark Knight Rises was China, Korea and Russia.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Maybe. So what you're saying is DC has to make the greatest cbm ever to hit IM3 money

They gotta build the good faith man. that's what it boils down to. Good faith is why these movies do well and the star power of RDJ in that role is what made IM3 do well also it was coming off the one of the biggest movies of all time in the avengers, which lived up to the hype. It's about brand equity leading to brand loyalty

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I'm just going to keep responding to this with IM3 vs TDKR. If all pg 13 movies apeal to the same audience. If the popularity of the characters matter. Then why did IM3 destroy TDKR?

Domestic:

TDKR - 448,139,009
IM3 - 409,013,994

Foreign:

TDKR - 636,800,000
IM3 - 806,426,000


TDKR made more in the states.

 

[Clark Wayne]

I'm just going to keep responding to this with IM3 vs TDKR. If all pg 13 movies apeal to the same audience. If the popularity of the characters matter. Then why did IM3 destroy TDKR?


As for what a company spends, they can spend whatever they want. It still doesn't affect the market

Breh IM3 did not "destroy" TDKR.

Iron Man 3 made $174 million opening weekend. TDKR made $160 million opening weekend. The final gross for both was $1.2 billion for IM3 and $1.08 for TDKR. That's destroying to you? Let's not forget the Aurora shooting that happened the opening weekend of the TDKR.

At the end of the day I don't see it as an age thing. I think some people genuinely don't care for Snyder's work on the DC universe so far.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Breh IM3 did not "destroy" TDKR.

Iron Man 3 made $174 million opening weekend. TDKR made $160 million opening weekend. The final gross for both was $1.2 billion for IM3 and $1.08 for TDKR. That's destroying to you? Let's not forget the Aurora shooting that happened the opening weekend of the TDKR.

At the end of the day I don't see it as an age thing. I think some people genuinely don't care for Snyder's work on the DC universe so far.

$200M more isn't destroying it?

People really cared for Nolan's work yet it made $200M less

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Domestic:

TDKR - 448,139,009
IM3 - 409,013,994

Foreign:

TDKR - 636,800,000
IM3 - 806,426,000


TDKR made more in the states.

So more people across the world fukked with IM.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

So more people across the world fukked with IM.

Compare it to BVS though

Domestic: $328,369,776

TDKR made 448 mil.

That's a steep drop off from the last film no?

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

They gotta build the good faith man. that's what it boils down to. Good faith is why these movies do well and the star power of RDJ in that role is what made IM3 do well also it was coming off the one of the biggest movies of all time in the avengers, which lived up to the hype. It's about brand equity leading to brand loyalty

But isn't Batman more popular than the Avengers? If it's based on iconic status and reviews, TDK should've Beat the Avengers. But of course it's not about that. It's about appealing to more people

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Compare it to BVS though

Domestic: $328,369,776

TDKR made 448 mil.

That's a steep drop off from the last film no?

Absolutely. If BvS was reviewed the same level as TDKR it probably would have hit close to a billion... Still 200 less than IM3

 

[Tasha And]

I'm just going to keep responding to this with IM3 vs TDKR. If all pg 13 movies apeal to the same audience. If the popularity of the characters matter. Then why did IM3 destroy TDKR?


As for what a company spends, they can spend whatever they want. It still doesn't affect the market

You keep trying to cling to that point but it's not compelling.

1. The difference between IM3 and DKR was $130 million, not the "nearly 300" you keep saying.

2. Iron Man 3 was in 3D, Dark Knight Rises was not. The average regular movie ticket is around $8. 3D and 3DImax tickets can be $4-7 more than that. Yes it makes a big difference.

3. Dark Knight Rises grossed more than Iron Man 3 Domestically. If "kids" are the reason MCU movies make more, THIS is where we should have seen it. But we didn't. DKR dominated here.

4. Iron Man 3 added in additional Chinese-only content to pander to the Chinese Box Office and was coming off the buzz of making $240 million in China with the Avengers. The Dark Knight NEVER released in China, with WB citing "cultural sensitivity", and then the Dark Knight Rises ended up releasing in China a month later than every other territory. Iron Man 3 made more than double what The Dark Knight Rises made in China because of this.

Kids aren't the reason, international appeal/pandering and 3D is. China certainly is a big difference maker, and The Dark Knight movies either didn't release there, or they released there with barely any priority given toward exciting that audience.

 

[MartyMcFly]

But isn't Batman more popular than the Avengers? If it's based on iconic status and reviews, TDK should've Beat the Avengers. But of course it's not about that. It's about appealing to more people

Batman is definitely more popular but this is a new batman. That's a big difference than someone people already have a vested interest in and the buzz wasn't good. Need good buzz too breh

 

[Clark Wayne]

$200M more isn't destroying it?

People really cared for Nolan's work yet it made $200M less

I wouldn't really call $200 million destroying it. Plus TDKR had no 3D, IM 3 did and 3D is actually more popular overseas than it is in the states, which was likely a factor in the differnces between the grosses of the film domestically and internationally.

Edit: @Tasha And explained it much better.

 

[Cat piss martini]

Nolan did a great job with Batman
but alot of the elements he used were
from Tim Burtons batman.
problem is until a true visionary comes
along superman will be the same story
over and over and over and over.
sad thing is affleck may be collateral damage
because dc has already fukked up a project
that was a just add water operation to success.
how do you fukk up a movie with batman/superman
and fukkin wonderwoman........how!!!