Cat piss martini
Veteran
dc's biggest problem...
they aint took a real chance since
Burton hit with a the dark toned
batman that has been used since.
Marvel knows the material and throw dice.
hitting 7's most of the time.
'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)
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dc's biggest problem...
they aint took a real chance since
Burton hit with a the dark toned
batman that has been used since.
Marvel knows the material and throw dice.
hitting 7's most of the time.
I want to make a comment about that point specifically. I would agree that a film that tackles the power and responsibility dilemma could be ambitious, but my stance is that BvS did not do that. And they had a perfect opportunity to do so.
The most disappointing scene in the film for me wasn't Martha, or Batman murking criminals, or CG Doomsday, or any of Luthors scenes, it was the court scene. When I first saw the trailer, I thought to myself, despite all of the stupid shyt being thrown at the screen, THIS looks like it could be interesting.
Superman having to address a court, speak to the American people, hell speak to the entire world, and take an actual stance on who he is and what his place is in this world.
I was looking forward to that more than anything else in the film. What would be his response? How would he answer to "This is how democracy works. We talk to each other." I thought this could have been a great 5-7 minute scene of truth and character building and thought provoking debate. But no, the court room exploded before Superman could even say a word. So apparently democracy is talking to each other, but this movie is about avoiding that talk, and instead having shyt blow up.
So we don't get to hear him defend himself, we don't get to hear him apologize, or not apologize, or express a counterpoint to the popular narrative, or talk about growing up on a farm, or talk about his ethos, or talk about being a man vs being a God, or talk about how the love of his family or the love of his life factors into who he is, or literally.....anything. He doesn't share a single piece of himself. All we get is him brooding after the explosion. What a wasted opportunity for the film to deliver an interesting and poignant character moment for Superman and one that would explicitly tackle the theme of being a superhero and if people deserve to be saved. That moment should have been used to give Superman, a character so many say is boring and emotionless, a voice that would connect to the audience, in world and out, but instead they used that moment for a piss joke and an explosion.
This is why I say it was an on the surface look at it's themes. The potentially compelling aspects of the film was just undermined at damn near every point, and all that truly was left to like was Batman's action scenes.At least for me.
You get it.
They want the movies to be fun but don't want to admit it's aimed at children. It's odd.Why can't people just admit that MCU movies appeal to a younger age
How else can it be explained that TDKR and IM3 were received virtually the same and yet IM3 made $300M more
If the fact that having more iconic characters means more box office then if IM3 makes 1.3B TDKR should have made at least 1.5B unlessss.......... DC makes movies where the age threshold is older
loyola llothta
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bvs almost made a billion, you dont think JL would reach the billion mark
Why? This movie didn't
Brandeezy
Superstar
Because it was shytted on by critics and fans after release. If it was an average to great movie, shyt would've cleared a billion no problem
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
TDK just got to a bill and that is most acclaimed cbm ever with the most popular director. This movie ceiling was a billion it wasn't going to get there easy
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
JL over under at 900
WW and SS at 500
Superman/ Jesus allegory been done over again... yes I do agree that's cliche. But since they decided to go there, why not use a fresh take on it as whole and not just bits and pieces of it like in the previous versions? Funny you want to complain about THAT aspect which been the fabric of who Superman is and yet complain they're not doing other things that were the fabric of the old Donner-type version of the superhero.
ExactlyWhy can't people just admit that MCU movies appeal to a younger age
How else can it be explained that TDKR and IM3 were received virtually the same and yet IM3 made $300M more
If the fact that having more iconic characters means more box office then if IM3 makes 1.3B TDKR should have made at least 1.5B unlessss.......... DC makes movies where the age threshold is older
Clark Wayne
Superstar
Wonder Woman only making $500 would be a flop if it's as expensive as it's rumored to be. There is a reason WB moved it up 2 weeks because it needs to make all the money it came.
Suicide Squad should aim for at least $500 but I think WB is hoping for $600 or more.
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
How's it a flop at $500M ? WB didn't have anything make that much last year.
That damage control
Batman vs Superman just needed average legs/reception to get to a billion with it's opening (which was bigger than the last two Batman films that did a billion
) instead it had the worst box office legs for a comic book movie since X-Men Origins: Wolverine which saw it crash like The Titanic
Lord_Chief_Rocka
Superstar
But it still made $850M which is a lot. Yes if it was received better it maybe could've maxed at a billion. Plus the main reason the movie had such a great opening was because it released every where at the same time.That damage control
Batman vs Superman just needed average legs/reception to get to a billion with it's opening (which was bigger than the last two Batman films that did a billion
I've yet to see a convincing argument that BvS should have easily done a billion