'Batman v. Superman' Fallout: Warner Bros. Shakes Up Executive Roles (Exclusive)

[MartyMcFly]

At least exhaust every other possibility. It just seems like suicide otherwise. Dying for no reason is not admirable.

It's not for no reason. Why throw something to Wonder Woman while she's in the middle of a fight and risk her not getting it or distracting her from the giant monster trying to kill her when you can do it yourself? Wonder Woman was keeping him busy while superman did what he needed to do. There were no other options

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

The movie isn't flawless by any means, but when you try to be as ambitious in a genre that is dominated by movies that don't try to be ambitious, you're gonna have some slip ups. Bruce was out of the superhero game. He got back into it fueled by anger. He's going forward fueled by a sense of duty not only to mankind but also to the man/alien he vowed to kill but came to realize may have been more committed to Earth than he was.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Yeah, yell "Stab him with this" while Doomsday was fighting her. In your attempt to find something wrong with how things go down, you just created a plot point that is actually more ridiculous than doing the stanky leg to defeat a villian with an Infinity Gem. Congrats. Doomsday was on par, if not superior than, both Superman and Wonder Woman in terms of strength and speed. Wonder Woman holding him down is why he was able to be stabbed in the first place. Miserable nerds aren't happy with the film because they're miserable nerds. Being miserable is what they do

There were no other options other than what happened now? Wow, if you say so. I mean we got all of 10 minutes to come to that conclusion no one could defeat it.
Hey more miserable nerds out here than cool guys like yourself I guess. lol

 

[AnonymityX1000]

It's not for no reason. Why throw something to Wonder Woman while she's in the middle of a fight and risk her not getting it or distracting her from the giant monster trying to kill her when you can do it yourself? Wonder Woman was keeping him busy while superman did what he needed to do. There were no other options

WW was taking hits from Doomsday like they were nothing. Yes, she could have gotten the spear and used it without dying.

 

[loyola llothta]

Yall marvel dudes interested in suicide squad?

yeah its no way it

The movie isn't flawless by any means, but when you try to be as ambitious in a genre that is dominated by movies that don't try to be ambitious, you're gonna have some slip ups. Bruce was out of the superhero game. He got back into it fueled by anger. He's going forward fueled by a sense of duty not only to mankind but also to the man/alien he vowed to kill but came to realize may have been more committed to Earth than he was.

 

[MartyMcFly]

WW was taking hits from Doomsday like they were nothing. Yes, she could have gotten the spear and used it without dying.

He took the calculation that she couldn't but it also closes a narrative arc for it. the whole movie he's wrestling with the idea of what is his purpose and what is he doing this for and having to make the choice of being a true savior/hero or not being that. He needs to be the one to do what he did, no one else

 

[obarth]

yeah its no way it

When The Winter Soldier is being called a "political thriller" by Marvel stans, when Tony Starks thinks the love of his life just fell to her death and is cracking jokes minutes after, when nikkas are doing the running man to defeat a villian, etc...yeah Batman V Superman is ambitious. It directly takes on the themes of what being a superhero is, accountability of superheroes, and whether just because you have the power to help people if you should or if they deserve it. In an age where superhero movies are targeted towards children and childish adults, that's taking a huge risk. I'm in no way saying this is some Oscar worthy movie. I only feel the need to say that because when you cats have no rebuttal, you either reply with a smilie, pick some pointless part of the post to move the goal posts or say something starting with "So you're saying" which is usually exactly not what was said. You're probably gonna do the smilie one, if I had to put money on it

 

[Cat piss martini]

Martha.

 

[Tasha And]

BvS is no more ambitious than anything Marvel has put out . You can laugh at the tone of Guardians of the Galaxy, but the decision to throw those characters on the screen with that budget, in that setting, was way more ambitious and riskier from a studio perspective than deciding to throw Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Doomsday, The Flash, and Aquaman on a screen.

Everything you brought up; accountability and whatnot wasn't explored in any real substantive way, no truly unique or clever angle was explored, they just presented the common talking points of the subject and scowled at each other instead of having a thought out conversation without a clear winner. I mean, did Wonder Woman even say one word to Superman in the entire movie?

Drowning a film in dour music and a blue and grey color filter simply presents the illusion of taking a subject serious, but it's all undermined by CG monsters, stupid plot solutions, fake deaths, and hollow character moments. A 3 hour release would have been slightly more ambitious and certainly a bigger risk, considering it would have meant fewer screens, but ultimately the film was just an on the surface exploration of it's themes, no matter how many times people say it's deeper than the average comic book movie. No, it's just as silly, just as reliant on action, just as reliant on one note mustache twirling villains, but it's also presented as if it's better than that, which is why it gets laughed at instead of tolerated.

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

I know I am. Way more so than Doctor Strange.

Doctor Strange looks pretty weak and cheesy. I'm sure it'll do well financially, but unless it gets some great reviews, I might sit that one out until it's on video. Not excited for that one at all.

Suicide Squad might be a first weekend viewing for me.

 

[Won Won]

When The Winter Soldier is being called a "political thriller" by Marvel stans

A political thriller is a thriller that is set against the backdrop of a political power struggle. They usually involve various extra-legal plots, designed to give political power to someone, while his opponents try to stop him. They can involve national or international political scenarios. Political corruption, terrorism, and warfare are common themes.




Yeah, that doesn't sound like The Winter Soldier whatsoever

 

[wire28]

BvS is no more ambitious than anything Marvel has put out . You can laugh at the tone of Guardians of the Galaxy, but the decision to throw those characters on the screen with that budget, in that setting, was way more ambitious and riskier from a studio perspective than deciding to throw Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Doomsday, The Flash, and Aquaman on a screen.

Everything you brought up; accountability and whatnot wasn't explored in any real substantive way, no truly unique or clever angle was explored, they just presented the common talking points of the subject and scowled when a thought out conversation without a clear cut answer would have been more poignant. Drowning a film in dour music and a blue and grey color filter simply presents the illusion of taking a subject serious, but it's all undermined by CG monsters, stupid plot solutions, fake deaths, and hollow character moments. A 3 hour release would have been slightly more ambitious and certainly a bigger risk, considering it would have meant fewer screens, but ultimately the film was just an on the surface exploration of it's themes, no matter how many times people say it's deeper than the average comic book movie. No, it's just as silly, just as reliant on action, just as reliant on one note mustache twirling villains, but it's also presented as if it's better than that, which is why it gets laughed at instead of tolerated.

Back at it again killin these nikkas

Standard blockbuster featuring the two most well known heroes in American comic history is more ambitious than a movie full of unknowns including a talking tree and foul mouthed racc00n yeah they really stepped out on a limb with BVS clap for em

 

[obarth]

A political thriller is a thriller that is set against the backdrop of a political power struggle. They usually involve various extra-legal plots, designed to give political power to someone, while his opponents try to stop him. They can involve national or international political scenarios. Political corruption, terrorism, and warfare are common themes.




Yeah, that doesn't sound like The Winter Soldier whatsoever

I liked the Winter Soldier. It's a comic book movie. The political themes it tackles are beyond old and they're only tackled on a surface level. The Bourne films have more of a claim to being political thrillers than the Winter Soldier. The Dark Knight talked about the same political themes and that's not a political thriller. Stop it, fam

 

[obarth]

BvS is no more ambitious than anything Marvel has put out . You can laugh at the tone of Guardians of the Galaxy, but the decision to throw those characters on the screen with that budget, in that setting, was way more ambitious and riskier from a studio perspective than deciding to throw Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Doomsday, The Flash, and Aquaman on a screen.

Everything you brought up; accountability and whatnot wasn't explored in any real substantive way, no truly unique or clever angle was explored, they just presented the common talking points of the subject and scowled at each other instead of having a thought out conversation without a clear winner. I mean, did Wonder Woman even say one word to Superman in the entire movie?

Drowning a film in dour music and a blue and grey color filter simply presents the illusion of taking a subject serious, but it's all undermined by CG monsters, stupid plot solutions, fake deaths, and hollow character moments. A 3 hour release would have been slightly more ambitious and certainly a bigger risk, considering it would have meant fewer screens, but ultimately the film was just an on the surface exploration of it's themes, no matter how many times people say it's deeper than the average comic book movie. No, it's just as silly, just as reliant on action, just as reliant on one note mustache twirling villains, but it's also presented as if it's better than that, which is why it gets laughed at instead of tolerated.

First, quote or @ me breh. Secondly, to your point, there was nothing ambitious or risky about Guardians. Marvel already had films out that made billions. If it tanked, so what. You disagree with my opinion of BvS being ambitious, coolA superhero film that questions being a superhero or if people deserve to be saved is ambitious. A comic book film in this era that doesn't acquiesce to the childish need for bright colors and constant humor, especially when it's only the second film in their attempt to build a cinematic universe, is ambitious. Deadpool was ambitious. Fox was coming off a critical failure in Fantastic 4 and put a lesser known property out that was a direct parody of the whole genre. Doctor Strange was the Marvel movie I was hoping would be ambitious but it'll probably just be another good movie because the studio has their formula and has no reason to go against it and felt the need to whitewash a character for no reason

Edit:
I dapped you for the legit response, doe. That's rare in comic book threads

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

A superhero film that questions being a superhero or if people deserve to be saved is ambitious. A comic book film in this era that doesn't acquiesce to the childish need for bright colors and constant humor.

that film already existed too, it was called watchmen.