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These two fakkits are the biggest reason for Avon's downfall more than anything else. They should of been bodied Little Man style once Avon saw them getting high at the coming home party :beli:
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Marlo would have killed both of them:scust:


see marlo ain't have no respect for no one and nothin' but himself. it's certain rules to the game and marlo was comin' in on some "it ain't no rules". he fukked it up.
i didn't like how he came around and was fukkin' shyt up and so effortlessly either. but shyt like that can happen

the one thing i liked when shyt was gettin' real heavy, is how quickly avon went from bein' boss back to a soldier his damn self when he was loosin' men and he was ready to go war with marlo. while always the don, he could quickly go back into "soldier on the frontline" mindframe and be at war with his soldiers on the battlefield. avon ate, slept and breathed that shyt, a real gangster to the core :myman:

even when the police took him down, look how cool, calm and relaxed he was on:wow:



oh yeah, the first time too
 
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Marlo would have killed both of them:scust:


avon, the don :obama:

see he handled all the situations differently, you got to see different sides of him as a man

- he respect and understood cutty and him wantin' to help and give back to the community. plus, the money won't no thing. even gave him 5,000 more
- when cutty wanted out, he understood. he respected where cutty had been and where cutty wanted to go. avon was a well grounded brother
- with the referee, he was passionate bout the game, lol
 
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Avon is my favorite character on the show.

Fred.

mine too, easily :myman:
I didn't like how he got Marlo the connect when he was locked up. :camby:

But the Barksdale Organization :blessed: Although I prefer String over Avon by a slight margin :manny:

i didn't like how he got marlo the connect either but avon was tryin' to make it so his sister could still eat too :yeshrug: plus, avon was an "authority figure" :wow:


 
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avon, the don :obama:

see he handled all the situations differently, you got to see different sides of him as a man

- he respect and understood cutty and him wantin' to help and give back to the community. plus, the money won't no thing. even gave him 5,000 more
- when cutty wanted out, he understood. he respected where cutty had been and where cutty wanted to go. avon was a well grounded brother
- with the referee, he was passionate bout the game, lol
Agreed, this is why Avon was one of the most likeable characters of the entire series
 
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Agreed, this is why Avon was one of the most likeable characters of the entire series

avon was easily my favorite character on the show
i was happy that finally a show showed a black gangster who had his shyt together
avon as a gangster and leader of organized crime is overlooked in terms of tv shows and movies
 
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I really thought Cutty was gonna die when he tried to get out. I was pleasantly surprised when that didn't happen. I think Avon knew even in prison that Cutty's mind was changed.

If It Wasn't For Stringer Being A Snake Avon Would've Still Been On Top..Lets Not Forget About Punkass Orlando In Season 1 Too

Not to ride too hard for Stringer but Avon did put him in a bad position, esp when it came to the connect and Mouzone. Avon was determined to hang on to territory, but didn't really understand the scope of the problem. Stringer was stuck between a rock and a hard place on that one.

But yeah, every time I see Orlando, I shake my head. Like how did he think that was gonna work.
 

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Prior warning - Forgive the rambling nature of this. I was thinking about this after I discovered the show earlier this year, so everything might not make the most sense.

So I agree with you about most of it. And Stringer was going to die regardless of what happened between him and Avon b/c of his own stupidity. it's funny, the first time I watched it, I hated Stringer. I thought he was cold and manipulative and I couldn't wait for him to go. the second time around, I had more sympathy for him.

I guess my question was more along the lines of how they should have rebuilt the organization after Avon got out.

Avon and Stringer reached a point where they just had different views about running the business and different goals in life. Avon even said that he didn't expect to live as long as he did. As a result of that and his prison stint, I think that he had a tendency to be more reckless than he should have been or even would have been before he went away.

I think one of their biggest mistakes was trying to go back to way things were before. They were operating in a different climate with different players. I don't think Avon realized (or was willing to acknowledge ) that fact until the end. The towers (his main territory) were gone, his supplier has changed, etc. Now I do think he was right to want Marlo gone, but he didn't go about it the right way.

It was a mistake for Stringer to go back to the number two. You can't be king for a year and then go back to what you were before. I think that if they were smart, they would have moved Stringer into a new position that was separate from teh drug trade. Since he was already running the legit businesses, that's what he should have focused on. That way they would have their streams to launder the money like they needed and they would have had a clean business partner. Basically, he should have become the bank like Freamon predicted he would. But all this back and forth, one foot in one world, one foot in another wasn't good for any of them. But it would have been smarter for him to make that "break" let Avon run the empire as he wanted to, heck Slim Charles could have been the number 2 under him. If Avon wanted to split with Prop Joe, let him. Stringer should have built a team of people loyal to him, maybe start with the guys who weren't "hard enough" for the streets, and gone legit.

I did feel bad for Stringer after Avon turned on him. After Avon got shot in the failed attempt on marlo. Like, here he goes trying to check on his friend and Avon basically craps all over him. I also felt bad for him after Clay screwed him over. That's a hard blow to the ego.

I hope that made sense.

Stringer was a snitch/informant.. you felt bad for this nikka? :what:
 
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