avon barksdale from the wire appreciation thread

[Malachi Coleman]

no, you missed the whole point of my post that you just quoted and the way i loosely used and quoted the word "good"

No idiot, you just said Avon was one of the "bad" guys.

 

[I love Latina women]

No idiot, you just said Avon was one of the "bad" guys.

i said he is technically a bad guy but it made him a respectable gangster aka "a good bad guy", you illiterate fukk

 

[I love Latina women]

When did Marlo not play by the rules?

The point of the show is, if you play by the rules of the game...you can survive, if you try to bend the rules or not play by the rules of the game, you end up dead by the game, which was what Stringer Bell's death pointed out. He tried to change the rules & play rules outside the game & it got him got.

i'm sayin' marlo fukked the shyt up because he was live wire, a renegade. marlo fukked shyt up and never followed the rules of the game

avon = respectable gangster; the gangster you want to see win and you root for
marlo = the live wire crazy fukkin' gangster who always breaks the rules and you can stand to see win because he's so sinister and always gettin' over

but yes, you right on the money as far as what i bolded of your quote

 

[Malachi Coleman]

i said he is technically a bad guy but it made him a respectable gangster aka "a good bad guy", you illiterate fukk

And he's not "technically" a "bad guy" you ignorant ass fukk, what the fukk do you not understand? How can he "technically" being one like it's a fact, the shyt you saying don't even make sense. Get this through your thick fukking skull.

Edit: This show is not for simple minded thinking people like you.

 

[I love Latina women]

And he's not "technically" a "bad guy" you ignorant ass fukk, what the fukk do you not understand? How can he "technically" being one like it's a fact, the shyt you saying don't even make sense. Get this through your thick fukking skull.

Edit: This show is not for simple minded thinking people like you.

i was sayin' he's (avon barksdale) a "bad guy" by way of the law. like he's viewed by people who are against drug dealin' as a "bad guy" but he's one of the "bad guys" (by way of the law i'm talkin' bout) who you still root for because he's a man of respect and he plays by the rules, he follows "the code of the street" in a very "godfather" esque way

avon = the "good" gangster because he does things the "right" (follows and takes heed to the "code of the streets"
marlo = sinister new nikka who although a gangster too, is one who doesn't want to play "the code of the streets"

yes in the end, there were no "good guys" technically speakin' but to quote the late great biggie smalls, "you don't hear me though" - biggie on "things done changed"

but if you don't get what i'm sayin' by now, then fukk it. you clearly got yo head up yo own ass in tryin' to be "mr. right"

 

[Malachi Coleman]

i was sayin' he's (avon barksdale) a "bad guy" by way of the law. like he's viewed by people who are against drug dealin' as a "bad guy" but he's one of the "bad guys" (by way of the law i'm talkin' bout) who you still root for because he's a man of respect and he plays by the rules, he follows "the code of the street" in a very "godfather" esque way

avon = the "good" gangster because he does things the "right" (follows and takes heed to the "code of the streets"
marlo = sinister new nikka who although a gangster too, is one who doesn't want to play "the code of the streets"

yes in the end, there were no "good guys" technically speakin' but to quote the late great biggie smalls, "you don't hear me though" - biggie on "things done changed"

but if you don't get what i'm sayin' by now, then fukk it. you clearly got yo head up yo own ass in tryin' to be "mr. right"

This has to be one of the most incoherent attempts at an explanation I've ever seen.

 

[I love Latina women]

This has to be one of the most incoherent attempts at an explanation I've ever seen.

ok, clearly you don't get the point i made. so whatever

 

[Jazzy B.]

i can't c/s this marlo made avon look stupid

 

[Jazzy B.]

No you're wrong, the show clearly showed that Avon and Stringer needed each other. They both had valid points. Anyway, wtf you talking about Stringer sending Wee-Bey, Savino, and Little Man (not Stinkum, he's dead at this point) to rob an undercover? First of all, I'm sure BOTH of them were in on sending them, like most things, they're partners. They sent them to kill Orlando who they figured out was snitching from well, common sense. They knew nothing about there being an undercover cop with him in the car, how were they supposed to? You act as if Stringer is supposed to be omnipotent, Avon was as much at fault for that as Stringer. You clearly just have a bias against Stringer and don't know wtf you're talking about so.

Stringer prided himself on being one step ahead and the so called "smartest man in the room" , it's on him not Avon. This is the same clown who thought he could kill a state senator, don't put that bullshyt on The King.

 

[Malachi Coleman]

Stringer prided himself on being one step ahead and the so called "smartest man in the room" , it's on him not Avon. This is the same clown who thought he could kill a state senator, don't put that bullshyt on The King.

No you fukking clown. They BOTH were in on it, the whole fukking point of setting up that was so they could kill Orlando. Just stop because you clearly are very biased and don't know what you're talking about. Avon even said himself at the strip club that they could've got him some other time, which means they were both in on it. Like what you don't think Avon made fukking mistakes, you think he didn't approve or order most of the stuff they did? That's why he's the king, he has a say in most things. If Stringer was the only one who fukked up why didn't he ever go to prison and Avon did? I bet you would put that shyt on Stringer too with your dumbass huh? You need to stop with the bullshyt. Avon and Stringer were equals, partners motherfukker, okay.

 

[Devilinurear]

What if Avon and Stringer put there heads togeather and had marlo kill clay davis

 

[Jazzy B.]

No you fukking clown. They BOTH were in on it, the whole fukking point of setting up that was so they could kill Orlando. Just stop because you clearly are very biased and don't know what you're talking about. Avon even said himself at the strip club that they could've got him some other time, which means they were both in on it. Like what you don't think Avon made fukking mistakes, you think he didn't approve or order most of the stuff they did? That's why he's the king, he has a say in most things. If Stringer was the only one who fukked up why didn't he ever go to prison and Avon did? I bet you would put that shyt on Stringer too with your dumbass huh? You need to stop with the bullshyt. Avon and Stringer were equals, partners motherfukker, okay.

Stringer Bell is that you?

 

[threattonature]

i was sayin' he's (avon barksdale) a "bad guy" by way of the law. like he's viewed by people who are against drug dealin' as a "bad guy" but he's one of the "bad guys" (by way of the law i'm talkin' bout) who you still root for because he's a man of respect and he plays by the rules, he follows "the code of the street" in a very "godfather" esque way

avon = the "good" gangster because he does things the "right" (follows and takes heed to the "code of the streets"
marlo = sinister new nikka who although a gangster too, is one who doesn't want to play "the code of the streets"

yes in the end, there were no "good guys" technically speakin' but to quote the late great biggie smalls, "you don't hear me though" - biggie on "things done changed"

but if you don't get what i'm sayin' by now, then fukk it. you clearly got yo head up yo own ass in tryin' to be "mr. right"

I get what you saying. One of main problems that Omar had with Marlo too was that he had no code. The fact that Marlo killed that security guard or that he killed that woman unloading shyt just to try and set up Omar or even that they shot Butchie. Marlo gave no fukks about set rules or if somebody was in the game or not in the game. Avon was about separating those in the game and those not in the game and tried to avoid involving anybody not in the game.

That's why I wish they went more into Avon and Stringer's back story to learn how they gained their power as it's easier to follow set rules when you're already in the position of power.

 

[I love Latina women]

I get what you saying. One of main problems that Omar had with Marlo too was that he had no code. The fact that Marlo killed that security guard or that he killed that woman unloading shyt just to try and set up Omar or even that they shot Butchie. Marlo gave no fukks about set rules or if somebody was in the game or not in the game. Avon was about separating those in the game and those not in the game and tried to avoid involving anybody not in the game.

That's why I wish they went more into Avon and Stringer's back story to learn how they gained their power as it's easier to follow set rules when you're already in the position of power.

exactly, finally someone who gets what i'm sayin'

avon believed in the "code of the streets"; for example remember when stringer got the call that omar was spotted out and about but it was a on a sunday. now stringer made the bad call for goin' against the "code of the street" and not respectin' the fact that it was a sunday and tryin' to take out omar on that very day




remember how avon addressed the "sunday truce" to stringer once he got the word what happened?

"on a sunday morning?.... sunday truce been around long as the game itself. i mean, you know what i'm sayin'. you can do some shyt and be like what the fukk but hey, just never on no sunday man" avon to stringer

39 second mark


see, ^this^ is a great example of what separates avon from marlo in terms of how they moved and looked at the game

once again, avon = the goat modern day gangster

 

[Malachi Coleman]

exactly, finally someone who gets what i'm sayin'

avon believed in the "code of the streets"; for example remember when stringer got the call that omar was spotted out and about but it was a on a sunday. now stringer made the bad call for goin' against the "code of the street" and not respectin' the fact that it was a sunday and tryin' to take out omar on that very day




remember how avon addressed the "sunday truce" to stringer once he got the word what happened?

"on a sunday morning?.... sunday truce been around long as the game itself. i mean, you know what i'm sayin'. you can do some shyt and be like what the fukk but hey, just never on no sunday man" avon to stringer

39 second mark


see, ^this^ is a great example of what separates avon from marlo in terms of how they moved and looked at the game

once again, avon = the goat modern day gangster

You fukking idiot, the fukk you talking bout finally?

nikka everybody loves Avon but you just being biased and think everything is Stringer's fault.