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Sensitive Blake Griffin

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See thats all im saying...This thread isnt towards Atheists who accept this

Rather the ones that go around acting as if the values they live by are better than anyone else's on a moral plane



So the real reason you made the thread is finally revealed :smugobama:

Religious folks think this very same way with regard to non-believers as well as people of other faiths.

Why are you so insecure about your beliefs that you have to make a thread trolling atheists? :mjpls:

stick to trolling in other subforums because when you attempt to sound logical it makes no sense to us sane individuals.

Us atheists are too smart for :duck: from your retarded ass :nofukks:
 

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Sensitive Blake Griffin said:
when you attempt to sound logical it makes no sense to us sane individuals.

Us atheists are too smart for :duck: from your retarded ass :nofukks:

:whoa:

What is 'sane', 'logical' or 'smart' about defending baby rape?

It's appropriate to rape a baby when you want to have sex with a baby. I mean, it's not gonna just let you **** it.

I have no desire to have sex with a baby, and never have in the past. I think it would follow that I probably never will have that desire... but who knows, really. It's not off the table, put it that way
 

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So the real reason you made the thread is finally revealed :smugobama:

Religious folks think this very same way with regard to non-believers as well as people of other faiths.

Why are you so insecure about your beliefs that you have to make a thread trolling atheists? :mjpls:

stick to trolling in other subforums because when you attempt to sound logical it makes no sense to us sane individuals.

Us atheists are too smart for :duck: from your retarded ass :nofukks:

Nah the real reason I made the thread is because it seems wierd to me an atheist will complain about human rights being violated, or they'll look at a culture that behaves in a certain way and will use terms such as evil, or unfair, when in the worldview they claim to have..those things are mere illusion.

Try not to make assumptions breh..it aint cool
And ofc you would just classify me and this thread as a troll thread when what I asked is a legit question

And I rlly dnt get why you're using this condescending tone with me, as if you refuted any of my points..

Tho the purpose of this thread wasnt to school anyone in some sort but I jus wanted to see how atheists reconcile the implications of their worldview

And all the insults are not needed
if you wanna refute my points or answer my questions go ahead..but if you're just gonna throw around baseless insults in some attempt to make yourself feel superior in some way then hey..do you...


And also like I said :salute: to all the people who took my questions seriously and attempted to have a civil discussion with me
 

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"Consider it from the socio-biological point of view, such altruistic behavior is merely the result of evolutionary conditioning which helps to perpetuate the species.

A soldier throwing his body over a hand grenade to save his comrades is like a fighter ant which sacrifices itself for the sake of the ant hill.

Common sense dictates that we should resist the socio-biological pressures to such self destructive activity and choose instead to act in our best self interest"

commons sense says we should resist socio-biological pressures? think about that. these behaviors have allowed our species to thrive. why would it be 'common sense' to resist these behaviors?
 

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commons sense says we should resist socio-biological pressures? think about that. these behaviors have allowed our species to thrive. why would it be 'common sense' to resist these behaviors?

But see thats the thing...they may have allowed the species to thrive but at the cost of your own self gain.

You live, then you die
There's no moral difference between being selfish and being selfless

Why sacrifice your life and your well being for someone else when ultimately it is neither good or evil..it is just you following the illusory moral obligations given to you by societal and evolutionary conditioning and you sacrifice your well being for what is ultimately an illusory moral duty.

If these are just illusory, then the self sacrificial individual is indeed living by illusory products of evolutionary conditioning and sacrificing his well being in the process

And based on the worldview..him being self sacrificial was neither good or evil..it was just him living for the illusion of moral obligation/duty.

And this individual when he dies, doesnt experience the so called fruits of his actions soo that is what I mean by common sense dictating that we should live for our best self interest..given the nature of life and death in this worldview.

So if raping a woman gives u pleasure..then do you..doesnt make sense to make an illusory concept stop you

If starting a genocide for a people you hate is what gives you pleasure..then do u..it doesnt make sense to make an illusory concept stop you

Btw Im speaking from the perspective of the naturalistic world view
 

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But see thats the thing...they may have allowed the species to thrive but at the cost of your own self gain.

You live, then you die
There's no moral difference between being selfish and being selfless

Why sacrifice your life and your well being for someone else when ultimately it is neither good or evil..

because ultimately the important thing is survival of the species. and if that wasn't important to us, we probably wouldn't be here
 

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says no one. it's just the logic of the situation. when we look around, we see the 'winners' in the game of life. the 'losers' are all dead, and that includes any species that was more concerned with individuals, rather than the species as a whole
 

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says no one. it's just the logic of the situation. when we look around, we see the 'winners' in the game of life. the 'losers' are all dead, and that includes any species that was more concerned with individuals, rather than the species as a whole

Well in that way I agree..The 48 Laws of Power mindset for the sake of being in a position of power and getting the most pleasure out of life is why one would do those things

But ya forreal this time this will be my last post..Im gonna ignore the rest of the posts cuz this thread will go on forever..

Inbox me if ur rlly interested in havin a discussion but for now



Pcez :bryan:
 

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What I am arguing is.. if you believe God doesnt exist how can you believe that objective moral values and duties exist
I SHOWED YOU SEVERAL TIMES THAT EVEN GOD DOESN'T PROVIDE OBJECTIVE MORALITY, BROTHER!


If God does not exist it has profound implications
It becomes impossible to condemn war, oppression and crime as evil
I SHOWED YOU SEVERAL WAYS ETHICS CAN BE JUDGED WITHOUT APPEALING TO GOD, DUDE! WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THAT?

That means an atrocity like the holocaust was really just morally indifferent
You may think that it was wrong, but the Nazi perpetrators that carried it out thought that it was good
LET THE HULKSTER REMIND YOU THAT ALMOST ALL OF THE NAZIS WERE CHRISTIAN, MEAN GENE!

There is no objective reason man should do anything except for the pleasure it rewards him.
I SHOWED YOU THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS ETHICAL SYSTEMS BESIDES NATURALISM AND HEDONISM, BROTHER!

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