Religion/Spirituality Atheism Discussion

[BlvdBrawler]

The irony

So tell me..according to the claims of ur worldview(Naturalistic worldview)
How does it account for this claim that killing an insect is not as wrong as killing a human?

And no references to culture, state or govt influence

Go

Common sense.

Damn breh you almost got me there.

 

[Won Won]

just as its ok for gays to be what stops people from being with beast.

I'm surprised that the people who make this leap can even turn their computers on

 

[blackslash]

Common sense.

Damn breh you almost got me there.

Thats a reference to culture

I told u no cheating

I only want reference to the claims of your worldview and that alone

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Thats a reference to culture

I told u no cheating

I only want reference to the claims of your worldview and that alone

Nah, it's common sense.

 

[Snitchin Splatter]

lol how did I miss this thread. All I had to do is read the first post and the number of pages to see you clearly made them mad. I'm not gonna even read thru this whole thing to see if someone gave an objective response to your OP because I'm sure they didn't, probably turned into 10 pages of bashing religion even though you didn't mention any religion in your post

keep making them mad

 

[jadillac]

Everything has its own compass.

Animals care about their own kind. Animals who travel in packs do so to ensure safety b/c they care about each other and they will defend each other, female animals will defend their young to ensure they survive.

It's natural. Humans are no different in that regards. There's people who don't know squat about any religion and will fight for human rights.

Your dog does what it does b/c that's it's nature. He's gonna pee on your carpet, crap on your rug, b/c it what comes NATURAL. It's only when you place your, MAN MADE dogma, rules/religion on him does anything change and cause him to go outside.

It doesn't mean there's some inherently right or wrong for him to pee in your house, it's only what YOU deemed to be right or wrong.

 

[MostReal]

I'm surprised that the people who make this leap can even turn their computers on

I'm not the one making the leap.

you and your friends are currently fighting for it even though you don't know it. You are simply opening the gateway, once it happens years from now you will be sitting at home like that guy IllaV3 was right.

 

[jadillac]

And some religious ppl don't believe in human rights or human morality at all, there's southern baptist churches that still won't allow black ppl to join/attend or get married in. There's religious ppl in the 1950's who would lynch a black person from a tree on Sat night and be at church the next morning and nobody batted an eye.

How can anyone argue that believing in a god shaped these ppl's beliefs for the better, anymore than someone who doesnt believe?

Much of them behaving that way is b/c they had a book they could cherry pick from to justify their beliefs/actions.

 

[MostReal]

The irony

So tell me..according to the claims of ur worldview(Naturalistic worldview)
How does it account for this claim that killing an insect is not as wrong as killing a human?

And no references to culture, state or govt influence

Go

he can't and won't answer because it exposes the failed logic in this 'atheist' world view. Its so stupid. I'm done even entertaining the thought. That's how absurd it is.

 

[blackslash]

he can't and won't answer because it exposes the failed logic in this 'atheist' world view. Its so stupid. I'm done even entertaining the thought. That's how absurd it is.

What can I say


Claiming to be wise they have become fools

Claiming to be progressive they have actually regressed

But thats another subject for another day

 

[blackslash]

Everything has its own compass.

Animals care about their own kind. Animals who travel in packs do so to ensure safety b/c they care about each other and they will defend each other, female animals will defend their young to ensure they survive.

It's natural. Humans are no different in that regards. There's people who don't know squat about any religion and will fight for human rights.

Your dog does what it does b/c that's it's nature. He's gonna pee on your carpet, crap on your rug, b/c it what comes NATURAL. It's only when you place your, MAN MADE dogma, rules/religion on him does anything change and cause him to go outside.

It doesn't mean there's some inherently right or wrong for him to pee in your house, it's only what YOU deemed to be right or wrong.

So right and wrong and good and evil are nothing more than illusory constructs from societal and evolutionary conditioning?

And right and wrong and good and evil doesnt rlly exist?

Glad to hear an atheist actually stay consistent with his worldview



Dnt ever let me hear the words evil or good come out ur mouth tho

 

[beanz]

so basically, in a nutshell, op is saying that if we do not believe in any religions, there is no way we can know right from wrong or good from evil. is that correct?

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

so basically, in a nutshell, op is saying that if we do not believe in any religions, there is no way we can know right from wrong or good from evil. is that correct?

supposedly. i almost wanna make a thread spinning off of this but fukk it maybe one of them can answer this for me:


they say there's no morals without religion, these morals come through god, but nearly ALL religions believe themselves to be the one true way of life... so where did the rest of the religions get their morals? :brb:

 

[blackslash]

so basically, in a nutshell, op is saying that if we do not believe in any religions, there is no way we can know right from wrong or good from evil. is that correct?

If thats what u got from the OP...

then... I fear for u

Suggestion...Read the whole thread

 

[jadillac]

So right and wrong and good and evil are nothing more than illusory constructs from societal and evolutionary conditioning?

And right and wrong and good and evil doesnt rlly exist?

Glad to hear an atheist actually stay consistent with his worldview



Dnt ever let me hear the words evil or good come out ur mouth tho

Fist of all, don't call me an atheist. Because I am no such thing. You just made that assumption....your problem is you have a need to fit everyone/everything in a box. Why?
But the world is much bigger than what comes out of your or my 6-inch brain

Right and wrong are not directly definable. You can say certain words in other countries, while in the USA it will have a derogatory meaning a totally different meaning. Who's right/wrong? You go nude on beaches of certain countries and people see nothing wrong with it. Do it in other places and you'll be arrested, or maybe put to death in some. Who's good/evil there?

If right and wrong/good & evil is intrinsic then why does every country, state, down to the county have different laws/rules?

Good/evil are human words to describe actions.

A person might be killed or have a hand chopped off in the middle east for stealing a loaf of bread and it's perfectly "good" & justifiable to them, meanwhile in the USA we'd consider that to be "evil".