Religion/Spirituality Atheism and the black community...good read

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I didn't derail sh1t, and how is it my fault some lame wants to address every post I make ^? I was just responding to 1 poster w my opinion on what she was addressing. What r u jealous? I said something matter of factually just to relate the previous point.. and you keep talking ego this n that.
At you, because if you feel that I would even be doing that to stoke an ego via a message board... that just shows what most of the posters have know for years about the purple lipped indian character.

But what do you need from me though?... I don't think I post things to solicit a response from every "lame" (now imma say the sh1t incessantly ,lol) n1gga on here.

That's nice.

 

[Blackking]

That's nice.

.... now that the lames are addressed.

I do think it's messed up that atheist have a lower chance of getting decent employment and are more likely to suffer from a mental disorder. We need to get together and figure out way to fix this.... athiest are far more suicidal and are more likely to lack self confidence as well.

 

[the mechanic]

Those two smileys would have made a more eloquent and dignified statement than that steaming pile of gibberish you grunted out...






I wont respond to it because Im not gonna derail this thread any further but this is merely a postponement ...not a retreat

 

[Blackking]

Really, if you're not performing Christianity in that manner, your Blackness is called into question in a lot of ways; it's written into our skin..

You post was really interesting... but damn. Is this really true^?

I'm not Christian, but I don't hate on black Christians for a few reasons....

Even tho more than 80 percent of us claim Christianity, the majority of us don't speak, practice, attend church, do any of that sh1t.. we just say what we know. The majority of black americans wouldn't call into question your 'Blackness' due to you being atheist.

Also,
-They mean well.
-Metaphorically, they aren't wrong about too much, imo.

Historically they been helpful to my people:
-I'm an escaped slave... who will help me? - the black church.
-I need people to organize my community during reconstruction and jim crow - the black Christian will be a major help for us.
-I'm a lost and downtrodden person, who will try (w good intentions) to lift my spirits? - In most black communities some churches do a good job at that.
-Newly freed slaves who were lost or had nowhere to go in the South - The black church would get on that missionary sh1t and save them and really emaciate them.
-We need a leader to work with politicians so that we can at least get some basic rights in modern times.. MLK and the church leaders will be a big help with that.
- Some of us r on that Black liberation ideology - most aren't Christians, but Christians did the heavy lift to get that sh1t off the ground.
-I'm gay or live an alternative lifestyle - Christians aren't that open to all that; but there are a few Churches that have black gay members and church officials.
-We need people, that no matter how we talk about them or try to discredit them will try to help and fight for our people. There are the few greedy preachers, but the majority care deeply about us and some of that compassion is rooted in their faith.

 

[Blackking]

Those two smileys would have made a more eloquent and dignified statement than that steaming pile of gibberish you grunted out...






I wont respond to it because Im not gonna derail this thread any further but this is merely a postponement ...not a retreat

At least you recognize that you derailed it in the first place... and lol, postponement for what? what could you really say for yourself? nothing, so our conversation is hopefully over.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Those two smileys would have made a more eloquent and dignified statement than that steaming pile of gibberish you grunted out...






I wont respond to it because Im not gonna derail this thread any further but this is merely a postponement ...not a retreat

"You're a lame fakkit. I have more swag than you!"

Dude posts like a 13 year old female whigger with body image issues. Yeah, just ignore him and keep it moving.

 

[Blackking]

"You're a lame fakkit. I have more swag than you!"

Dude argues like a 13 year old female whigger with body image issues. Yeah, just ignore him and keep it moving.

You gonna keep going.

I address you all accordingly.. and just in case you want to continue to be lazy with the comprehension.. I never never made a point out of having more swag than anyone.
But you can ignore my real points and replace them with sh1t to fit into your nervously fabricated self projecting image -you want to paint of me. Just know that a real me and a real you also exist in the real world, and only one of those people are normal.

How are you going to advise someone to ignore me when you do the opposite of that sh1t... ?

Regardless, I appreciate it, I really wish he wouldn't respond to all my sh1t twist my words, for unnecessary reasons. pos rep for that.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

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I'm actually sitting in a hospital bed right now. Breast cancer. Both breast removed on the 18th of March, lymph nodes removed this afternoon. My belief lies within myself, and with the support of my family and friends, I know that I will be okay once this battle is over. I don't feel the need to believe in religion to "bring me back" as you've previously stated

Most people use religion as a crutch. I don't need a book to tell me what'd right/wrong or moral. If more people took responsibility for their actions AND did what is necessary to change the outcome instead of blaming "Satan" or saying stupid shyt like "God knows my heart" or "If it's God's will, then " this world would be a better place.

Most people don't take responsibility for their actions, and it has nothing to do with religion

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Most people don't take responsibility for their actions, and it has nothing to do with religion

you dont think so? So if I tell you that you are evil and that theres nothing you can do about it. Youre going to "sin" (whatever that is) regardless. But thats okay because no matter what you do, Jesus will forgive you and you will go to heaven. And this life is worthless anyways... That anything that happens is just part of gods plan and theres nothing we can do about it...

you think teaching people that from an early age HELPS or HURTS their chances of taking responsibility?

 

[intilectual recipricol]

You post was really interesting... but damn. Is this really true^?

I'm not Christian, but I don't hate on black Christians for a few reasons....

Even tho more than 80 percent of us claim Christianity, the majority of us don't speak, practice, attend church, do any of that sh1t.. we just say what we know. The majority of black americans wouldn't call into question your 'Blackness' due to you being atheist.

Also,
-They mean well.
-Metaphorically, they aren't wrong about too much, imo.

Historically they been helpful to my people:
-I'm an escaped slave... who will help me? - the black church.
-I need people to organize my community during reconstruction and jim crow - the black Christian will be a major help for us.
-I'm a lost and downtrodden person, who will try (w good intentions) to lift my spirits? - In most black communities some churches do a good job at that.
-Newly freed slaves who were lost or had nowhere to go in the South - The black church would get on that missionary sh1t and save them and really emaciate them.
-We need a leader to work with politicians so that we can at least get some basic rights in modern times.. MLK and the church leaders will be a big help with that.
- Some of us r on that Black liberation ideology - most aren't Christians, but Christians did the heavy lift to get that sh1t off the ground.
-I'm gay or live an alternative lifestyle - Christians aren't that open to all that; but there are a few Churches that have black gay members and church officials.
-We need people, that no matter how we talk about them or try to discredit them will try to help and fight for our people. There are the few greedy preachers, but the majority care deeply about us and some of that compassion is rooted in their faith.

This is true, but of what you wrote literally ZERO percent has to do with the Christian belief system.

Blacks say atheists were unseen civil rights heroes

Here is a USA Today article that touches on the subject of prominent blacks in the Civil Rights movement who were non-believers.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

you dont think so? So if I tell you that you are evil and that theres nothing you can do about it. Youre going to "sin" (whatever that is) regardless. But thats okay because no matter what you do, Jesus will forgive you and you will go to heaven. And this life is worthless anyways... That anything that happens is just part of gods plan and theres nothing we can do about it...

you think teaching people that from an early age HELPS or HURTS their chances of taking responsibility?

It has no effect on it whatsoever. Human behavior is just that, human behavior.

As a society we have been conditioned to blame everyone and everything except ourselves for our situation....

Whether its the man, racism, trifling broads, capitalism, the greedy 1%, the economy, my dikk, my employer, the devil, etc, etc, etc.........people will always find something else to blame for their woes\situation whether they are religious or not.

Churches used to preach accountability, love and sacrifice, but that message is a harsh one and does not draw a large crowd anymore......When America became extremely materialistic during the Reagan years, the messages in the church slowly started to change as well.

You can teach and preach to kids all you want, but we are bombarded with messages and stimuli 24/7 to counteract any type of moral or spiritual programming.

First and foremost, the messages in churches differ from church to church and I have rarely seen a christian use the devil as a scapegoat. Now, they may have symbolized their situation as the Devil's work, but they still used their own devices and resources to get out of the situation and simply gave all the glory to God.

Bottom line is they got jammed up and bounced right back and whatever a person uses to motivate his or herself to get through tough times is their business, and long as its not hurting anyone else

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

This is true, but of what you wrote literally ZERO percent has to do with the Christian belief system.

Blacks say atheists were unseen civil rights heroes

Here is a USA Today article that touches on the subject of prominent blacks in the Civil Rights movement who were non-believers.

I wouldn't count most of those cats as a part of the civil rights movement. Most of them were artists\authors who produced great literary works, documenting our existence and what we were going through, but half if not most of them, weren't soldiers.... I look at most of these cats as the initiators of the black renaissance, which was extremely important in reshaping the identity of blacks in America....

A Phillip Randolph was a G tho

 

[intilectual recipricol]

It has no effect on it whatsoever. Human behavior is just that, human behavior.

As a society we have been conditioned to blame everyone and everything except ourselves for our situation....

Whether its the man, racism, trifling broads, capitalism, the greedy 1%, the economy, my dikk, my employer, the devil, etc, etc, etc.........people will always find something else to blame for their woes\situation whether they are religious or not.

Churches used to preach accountability, love and sacrifice, but that message is a harsh one and does not draw a large crowd anymore......When America became extremely materialistic during the Reagan years, the messages in the church slowly started to change as well.

You can teach and preach to kids all you want, but we are bombarded with messages and stimuli 24/7 to counteract any type of moral or spiritual programming.

First and foremost, the messages in churches differ from church to church and I have rarely seen a christian use the devil as a scapegoat. Now, they may have symbolized their situation as the Devil's work, but they still used their own devices and resources to get out of the situation and simply gave all the glory to God.

Bottom line is they got jammed up and bounced right back and whatever a person uses to motivate his or herself to get through tough times is their business, and long as its not hurting anyone else

Youre underestimating the power of having that message ingrained into your society. The church's MAIN TENET is the absolute opposite of accountability. It states you are evil, but its okay because this other perfect person will take the punishment for your evilness. The church is the exact opposite of accountability.

They ALWAYS use the devil as a scapegoat "the devil been a liar and murderer since the beginning" when the story actually shows and PROVES the only liar and killer was god. So Christians are taught to LIE and have it ingrained in them to lie.

There often are reasons for woes, those are not necessarily excuses. I cant take the blame for slavery, nor the subsequent institutionalized racism, and subsequent consequences. Theyre just not my fault. Capitalism guarantees that a segment of the population will be poor. Theres no way around it. Its not an excuse, its a reason. The man? You dont think the US government has anything to do with the woeful state of some demographics in the country?

youre not addressing BEHAVIOR. The church's teachings is conducive to bad behavior because as a doctrine they teach non-accountability and the evil nature of humans. If I teach a dog to attack, guess what it will do...

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

He should join the coli

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Youre underestimating the power of having that message ingrained into your society. The church's MAIN TENET is the absolute opposite of accountability. It states you are evil, but its okay because this other perfect person will take the punishment for your evilness. The church is the exact opposite of accountability.

They ALWAYS use the devil as a scapegoat "the devil been a liar and murderer since the beginning" when the story actually shows and PROVES the only liar and killer was god. So Christians are taught to LIE and have it ingrained in them to lie.

There often are reasons for woes, those are not necessarily excuses. I cant take the blame for slavery, nor the subsequent institutionalized racism, and subsequent consequences. Theyre just not my fault. Capitalism guarantees that a segment of the population will be poor. Theres no way around it. Its not an excuse, its a reason. The man? You dont think the US government has anything to do with the woeful state of some demographics in the country?

youre not addressing BEHAVIOR. The church's teachings is conducive to bad behavior because as a doctrine they teach non-accountability and the evil nature of humans. If I teach a dog to attack, guess what it will do...

Where does this bad behavior you speak of rear its head and how is it counterproductive to society....And since the overwhelming majority of the population is christian to some degree, you're willing to surmise that the majority of U.S. population don't believe in accountability?