ReturnOfJudah
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At What Point Did Being A 'New York Rapper' Stop Carrying Weight?
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Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Mid 2000s....
The South started to make tunes for cats to have fun and get buck to while NYC lost their edge due to sampling becoming expensive.
Looking back on it, we needed some happy music.
Lil Jon's stuff aged well too.
His stuff made u wanna have fun on the dance floor.
The South was making fun music while NYC nikkas were sitting back on their brownstones crying about why Hip Hop was dead instead of adapting to the times.
The South started to make tunes for cats to have fun and get buck to while NYC lost their edge due to sampling becoming expensive.
Looking back on it, we needed some happy music.
Lil Jon's stuff aged well too.
His stuff made u wanna have fun on the dance floor.
The South was making fun music while NYC nikkas were sitting back on their brownstones crying about why Hip Hop was dead instead of adapting to the times.
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Fixed
Strip Club culture exploded and everyone wanted to move to ATL and get them a redbone stripper that busts it open regularly. "Adapting to the times" at the expense of dumbing down the content and quality of music killed black music, which led to Hip Hop not being the #1 genre anymore in 2023.
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Cats were moving to ATL back then in the 90s...
Too Short and Erick Sermon set up shop down there.
If u wanna get upset at someone for simping over Strip Club Culture, blame T-Pain
T pain done had dudes trick and simp on strippers and even shouting out their names on songs. Gucci Mane also was a big player on tricking on hoes.
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Not to be that guy but I've noticed that u have a disdain for Gucci and 50??
Lil Wayne was tricking on Superhead and even made a ode to her.
Gucci Mane opened the floodgates for no quality control and even allowed dudes to rock dresses and "get money" at the expense of their masculinity in the 2010s. I call it "Crimes Against Masculinity"
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Gucci wasn't rocking a dress...
Kanye was rocking dresses way more. U forgot that Gucci was getting locked up though the 2010s every other week.
All Gucci did was rock was a big jelly belly
Gucci wasn't rocking a dress...
Kanye was rocking dresses way more. U forgot that Gucci was getting locked up though the 2010s every other week.
All Gucci did was rock was a big jelly belly
Young Thug and others were on that feminine wave and all came under Gucci Mane's influence.
Mac Ten
Class of 97 !!!
Thug did to troll us...
Whole time, he was out there putting out hits like Thugnificent.
TaxCollector13459
2018 Coli Rookie of the Year
Rasille
(Rah.Zil.E)
2006 for sure. There were plenty of factors for why NY fell off. One reason was that plain and simple the powers that be no longer wanted to push and promote NY artists. It didn’t matter what any NY rapper did they just weren’t going to support it. It was a catch 22 because if and when a NY rapper tried to adapt his sound they accuse him of biting the south. But when he sticks to his formula he gets blamed for not making the music the people want to hear. It was a rough time for NY artists.
The radio refusing to support NY rappers, once that happened it was over. Instead of pushing local artists they preferred to play what was hot in Atlanta, so upcoming NY rappers had to settle for an occasional play on late night mix shows like Kay Shay’s Drama Hour or Real Late with Rosenberg on Sunday nights. The old guards were exempt to some extent like the Jay Z’s or the Fab’s to name a few. The only new NY rappers I remember getting play was Mims and Maino and it was for only one song respectively.
NY or the tri state for that matter had plenty of rappers that were ready to carry the torch but were victims of a changing climate where they did nothing wrong except being from NY. I don’t see how 50 Cent dissing Jadakiss or Fat Joe should stop them from pushing the new guys popping up on the scene. That was always a cop out in order to not take accountability. It’s not like there wasn’t any infighting amongst the south, and that didn’t stop ATL from playing their artists.
The radio refusing to support NY rappers, once that happened it was over. Instead of pushing local artists they preferred to play what was hot in Atlanta, so upcoming NY rappers had to settle for an occasional play on late night mix shows like Kay Shay’s Drama Hour or Real Late with Rosenberg on Sunday nights. The old guards were exempt to some extent like the Jay Z’s or the Fab’s to name a few. The only new NY rappers I remember getting play was Mims and Maino and it was for only one song respectively.
NY or the tri state for that matter had plenty of rappers that were ready to carry the torch but were victims of a changing climate where they did nothing wrong except being from NY. I don’t see how 50 Cent dissing Jadakiss or Fat Joe should stop them from pushing the new guys popping up on the scene. That was always a cop out in order to not take accountability. It’s not like there wasn’t any infighting amongst the south, and that didn’t stop ATL from playing their artists.
Whips-n-Chains
Chi
~2005 or so
With how hard TM101 hit the streets when it dropped, seemed like no one really cared about NYC rappers any more after that.
Theres much more to it than that, others have pointed it out. But to me that felt like a major seismic change. Trap went from a sound, to THEE sound, particularly for street rappers
I remember summer 2005, being at the G-Unit after party after at St. Andrew's hall, after their huge show at comerica in Detroit...DJ played So Icy like 100x that night and the crowd was going crazy for it.
With how hard TM101 hit the streets when it dropped, seemed like no one really cared about NYC rappers any more after that.
Theres much more to it than that, others have pointed it out. But to me that felt like a major seismic change. Trap went from a sound, to THEE sound, particularly for street rappers
I remember summer 2005, being at the G-Unit after party after at St. Andrew's hall, after their huge show at comerica in Detroit...DJ played So Icy like 100x that night and the crowd was going crazy for it.
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