Star power matters to me..shai might be the most boring player in the League
At this point, its getting hard to deny LeBron is the best to ever pickup a Basketball
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Never during the 80s were there FIVE players averaging 30ppg. This season there are 6, and Curry is averaging almost 30 which would make it 7. The most players averaging 30 during the 80s was 3 players and that happened once during the 1981-82 season. It didn’t happen again until Kobe, Iverson and LeBron averaged 30 in 2006.
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BigTyme Records
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Jokic is better, arguable vs everyone else
Since many think Jordan has cemented the #1 GOAT position of all time I want to know has LeBron cemented himself as #2 of all time? Do ya'll think anyone can ever leap Bron for that #2 spot going forward?
And to state my opinion, I thought MJ was the GOAT especially after 2011, but since then LeBron has accomplished his greatest feats with that 2016 Chip putting him back in the convo. I loved his 2018 playoff run hitting all those game winners despite not winning the Chip. And also what keeps LeBron very close to MJ imo is the eye test.
I have never seen anyone with the explosion, speed, quickness plus basketball IQ that LeBron has. Just look at that Pelicans game at 38 moving at an entirely different speed than everyone on the court. He's been doing that since I first seen him vs the Kings in 03 (I didn't buy into the hype of a HS nikka
). And while Jordan was supremely athletic I never seen him just move at a different speed like that. Think back to the 2016 Finals and that block on Iggy, JVG's quote always sticks with me, he said "superhuman defensive recovery by LeBron James." He's just at another level athletically and physically then everyone, has been since 18 and still is at age 38/39.
I could go on about how I think Bron is closer to MJ than people want to admit. Because no one is better in elimination and winner take all games. I trust Bron over any player ever in a one game scenario, because I know his preparation, dedication and execution will be elite.
And to state my opinion, I thought MJ was the GOAT especially after 2011, but since then LeBron has accomplished his greatest feats with that 2016 Chip putting him back in the convo. I loved his 2018 playoff run hitting all those game winners despite not winning the Chip. And also what keeps LeBron very close to MJ imo is the eye test.
I have never seen anyone with the explosion, speed, quickness plus basketball IQ that LeBron has. Just look at that Pelicans game at 38 moving at an entirely different speed than everyone on the court. He's been doing that since I first seen him vs the Kings in 03 (I didn't buy into the hype of a HS nikka
). And while Jordan was supremely athletic I never seen him just move at a different speed like that. Think back to the 2016 Finals and that block on Iggy, JVG's quote always sticks with me, he said "superhuman defensive recovery by LeBron James." He's just at another level athletically and physically then everyone, has been since 18 and still is at age 38/39.I could go on about how I think Bron is closer to MJ than people want to admit. Because no one is better in elimination and winner take all games. I trust Bron over any player ever in a one game scenario, because I know his preparation, dedication and execution will be elite.
KnickstapeCity
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No one is denying that breh got a big dikk but he a Zionist kosher dikk loving fakkit, too. Both statements can be true.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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How many reactionary threads were made after this tournament? 
Terrible posting all around lol
Terrible posting all around lol
ItWasWritten
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I guarantee if another team had won this network pandering tournament you all would have called it a waste of time
Bron wins it , now it’s an accomplishment
Hooray, they beat a 12-9 Pacer team that at the end of the season will probably be in the 7th or 8th spot
This is the same team a week and half ago who lost by 44 points in which Bron said “a lot has to change”
Somebody had to win this bullshyt and the Lakers did, congrats, but that’s it. To me this is a few steps below of winning a western or eastern conference title … and we all know how little anybody cares about that.
In The Zone '98
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Never during the 80s were there FIVE players averaging 30ppg. This season there are 6, and Curry is averaging almost 30 which would make it 7. The most players averaging 30 during the 80s was 3 players and that happened once during the 1981-82 season. It didn’t happen again until Kobe, Iverson and LeBron averaged 30 in 2006.
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Without looking, I'd bet most are avg 3-5 three point makes per game.
Faster pace. And more 3s instead of long 2s has led to a couple guys avg 30.
Armchair Militant
Stay woke
A hall of fame careerBron played for 35 seasons and still has:
2 rings
2 finals maps
1 dpoy
1 mvp
4 defensive first teams
9 scoring titles
3 steals titles
1 slam dunk title
less than Mike
Rell84shots
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The problem with this line of thinking is that you're diminishing what MJ was in order to elevate Bron. MJ made first team defense 9x, and if you study him you'll see that he could do whatever was asked. MJ had to focus on scoring since he could do it the best, but he was an outstanding defender and was actually an excellent passer that could setup assists. The competition argument to me doesn't hold water, simply because the NBA 75 is filled with people who are ringless because of MJ's Bulls teams. Bron is amazing and if he's your GOAT that's fine, but no one has to downplay other legends to prop up MJ. Funny thing is that MJ himself said the argument isn't fair since some never got to play each other.
Maybe LeBron looks like this Koz his teams are stacked From top to bottom
Not just the past few years
But every year he went to the finals and won 
Maybe goats career would have lasted longer ,had he not retired twice from carryin around will pursue ,bill Cartwright , Craig Hodges ,jus buckler , luc longley etc Dennis hopson ,Stacey king ,etc
Are y’all really going to try and say any of mikes teams had the level of talent any of brons champion squads did
Don’t get me started on how he looked on the wizards at this age
Who the f was there wit him popeye jones ? Rip Hamilton ,etanThomas ,y’all Kant be fn serious
Who does Lebum have in comparison the past few years
Did Mj have multiple all stars on any of his wizards squads
The revisionist theory and plane double standards to prop up a false GOaT is out of control
Not just the past few years
But every year he went to the finals and won
Maybe goats career would have lasted longer ,had he not retired twice from carryin around will pursue ,bill Cartwright , Craig Hodges ,jus buckler , luc longley etc Dennis hopson ,Stacey king ,etc
Are y’all really going to try and say any of mikes teams had the level of talent any of brons champion squads did
Don’t get me started on how he looked on the wizards at this age
Who the f was there wit him popeye jones ? Rip Hamilton ,etanThomas ,y’all Kant be fn serious
Who does Lebum have in comparison the past few years
Did Mj have multiple all stars on any of his wizards squads
The revisionist theory and plane double standards to prop up a false GOaT is out of control
DaKidFromNoWhere
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I have him number 2.Since many think Jordan has cemented the #1 GOAT position of all time I want to know has LeBron cemented himself as #2 of all time? Do ya'll think anyone can ever leap Bron for that #2 spot going forward?
And to state my opinion, I thought MJ was the GOAT especially after 2011, but since then LeBron has accomplished his greatest feats with that 2016 Chip putting him back in the convo. I loved his 2018 playoff run hitting all those game winners despite not winning the Chip. And also what keeps LeBron very close to MJ imo is the eye test.
I have never seen anyone with the explosion, speed, quickness plus basketball IQ that LeBron has. Just look at that Pelicans game at 38 moving at an entirely different speed than everyone on the court. He's been doing that since I first seen him vs the Kings in 03 (I didn't buy into the hype of a HS nikka
I could go on about how I think Bron is closer to MJ than people want to admit. Because no one is better in elimination and winner take all games. I trust Bron over any player ever in a one game scenario, because I know his preparation, dedication and execution will be elite.
And nothing is wrong with that, just like I have no problem with anyone having Bron 1
DJ Paul's Arm
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he went hard just to be the first to win the worthless tournament. Finals is all that matters.
He had to form voltron just to win his first 2 rings on another superstars team, went back home only because Kyrie was there and needed a worldwide pandemic to win in the western conference.
MJ, Kobe and Curry didn’t have to do that. They did it all on the team they started with.
Not a GOAT in my book. Great player on and off the court but not the GOAT.
He had to form voltron just to win his first 2 rings on another superstars team, went back home only because Kyrie was there and needed a worldwide pandemic to win in the western conference.
MJ, Kobe and Curry didn’t have to do that. They did it all on the team they started with.
Not a GOAT in my book. Great player on and off the court but not the GOAT.