As intermarriage spreads, fault lines are exposed

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random, but this nikka's career never recovered after he said that dumb shyt
 

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Hispanic is considered a culture in this Country. They even distinguish what is Black person/African American on many applications in the USA, by belonging to certain racial groups and having ancestry in the USA. They almost always define what it is to be a Hispanic too. The two groups are never defined as the same, because to be Hispanic denotes having some relation to Spain. That is the whole notion of racial construct in this Country and it has been that way for a long time.

There have always been Hispanic people in this Country, most notably Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans almost always identify themselves as Hispanic, but without even looking it up I am pretty sure that Black men/African American are one of the largest groups that Puerto Rican women marry outside of Puerto Rican men and White men. I am positive that most African Americans and Puerto Ricans know exactly what I am stating.

Additionally, you and other have put to much emphasis on 24%. Your next question should have been 24% of what? All marriages? All marriages of African Americans? All marriages of African American men? What are they measuring? People see a number and they don't even bother to find out what is being measured and the kicker is that many African American men never get married. So what is being measured? Which means that the men actually getting interracially married would be less than 25% of all African American men that marry; which means that it would be even a smaller fraction of all African American men.

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Notice that 52% of African American men have never been married.

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Notice that Hispanic women are separated out and they are the 3rd largest group that African American men marry behind African American women and White women.

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Plus wouldn't some of those Hispanic wives inflate WW numbers.

Considering how some stats group Hispanics despite race with whites

So a Black man x Mestizo Hispanic union would help a Black man x white woman's numbers because they would group that in with them.
 

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Like half the weddings I go to are interracial. It's LA. :yeshrug:

Ya'all worry too much - when communities get more mixed, it gets to the point where everyone is a minority and most of the people you know are outside your race. Doesn't mean you have to marry out but the odds obvious go up. Especially true if you go to college.

My wife is Egyptian, I'm proud of that, we've been married over ten years and will be married for the rest of our lives.
believe that if you want, but that doesn't mean that things will get more equal
 

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Like half the weddings I go to are interracial. It's LA. :yeshrug:

Ya'all worry too much - when communities get more mixed, it gets to the point where everyone is a minority and most of the people you know are outside your race. Doesn't mean you have to marry out but the odds obvious go up. Especially true if you go to college.

My wife is Egyptian, I'm proud of that, we've been married over ten years and will be married for the rest of our lives.
would you be proud if she was a black woman? :jbhmm::sas2:

:sas1:
 

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Plus wouldn't some of those Hispanic wives inflate WW numbers.

Considering how some stats group Hispanics despite race with whites

So a Black man x Mestizo Hispanic union would help a Black man x white woman's numbers because they would group that in with them.

Many do self identify as White and being Hispanic itself is a descriptor clearly meaning not African American. So even a marriage to a Black Puerto Rican, Black Dominican or Black Cuban would be recorded as an interracial marriage.
 

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My point went over your head. First of all Egyptian isn’t a race it’s a nationality. She can be Arab Egyptian (which would make her of invader stock), mixed Egyptian (African and Arab/Asian/Euro), or Black Egyptian/Nubian which are the real natives to Egypt. My guess is that she is Arab or at the very least mestiza or else you would have mention that she was black. Second, your wife married a black American man raised in America with all the racial conflicts that exist. You really think she is going to be forthcoming with her own racial hang ups or those in her family? North Africans are well known fence riders in African communities. They hop in and out of African identity and have a bad rep in Europe among west Africans. Intermarriage does exist but that doesn’t change the reality.


Marrying someone of another nationality and race doesn’t absolve anyone to havin prejudice. And I foresee this interracial trend, that many people be hopping on thinking they are enlightened and don’t see race will create and is creating its own host of issues.

Hawaii has its own host of problems like I have been repeating the answer for oppressed particularly black groups in general is not effing your way to salvation. But to be equipped socially and economically so as not to see yourself as inferior to others. Mixed race communities on a grand scale don’t bring much to the table for black people other than creating more self hate issues. I am using history and current heavily multiracial countries as my point of reference.

Hawaii is a major Asian Multiracial country. Therefore, isn’t a good example for my point.
Don't forget native hawaiians don't fukk with white folk like that either and are known to get violent on the invaders
 

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I have a friend who I've known for many years. He married a very nice white woman and they had twin girls and 1 boy. He was with the Black Panther Party back in his youth but left it behind when he got older. All 3 of his children married white and now he has white looking grandkids running around. He privately confided to me that although he loves his family. he wishes he had Black grandkids like I do. He loves them but the way he explained it was that it's a shock to see people who are your descendants look like the people who you were segregated from when you were younger. It's weird and thank God I don't have that problem!

Damn...

Can you please make an AMA (‘Ask Me Anything’) thread or OG Chronicles about your early teenage and adult life, the Vietnam War, stories during Segregation/The Civil Rights Movement, your affliation with the Black Panther Party (that is if you had one), and changes to the black community that you witnessed from the 60s to the 90s.

:feedmj:

Also, can you make a thread giving life advice (in education, career, relationship... etc.) for the young brehs

:salute:
 

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Yikes Why are far-right reactionaries of all ethnic groups so opposed with interracial dating shyt is so weird
I think it's nature and I think some don't want the family that looks different by the time their about to die. If you have a kid with a white person and your kid does the same just like that you done turned into a white family and the same for any other race too just switch up the races. I think some really care about that and I can understand that. Outside of that I don't understand it and sure as hell don't get men that aren't related to you acting like chicks about it. Your actual family I can see but randoms esp men nah I just think they gay and or want your money so they wished you fukked their female family member instead. That's why dudes be on this money goes back to the white man like they don't have money going back to the white man in a lot of shyt they own and do themselves.
 

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believe that if you want, but that doesn't mean that things will get more equal
Oh, I agree with that. I'm not saying that interracial marriage is a "good" thing or a "bad" thing, I'm just saying it's a natural thing from the communities we live in now, by itself it ain't indicative of any disorder or anything, and by itself it ain't gonna lead to any sort of horrible outcomes unless you start shunning all the children from mixed marriages or some shyt like that.

Someone can still get in an IR relationship for the wrong reasons, there are people with fetishes and insecurities and who listen to the wrong kind of societal pressure, but just the fact that there are a lot of IR relationships ain't a bad thing in itself.




would you be proud if she was a black woman? :jbhmm::sas2:

:sas1:
Of course I would be. :stopitslime:

Everyone on here who knows my posting history knows I'm pro-Black woman and I don't stand for people who shyt on Black queens. :usure:

I never "planned" to marry an Egyptian women, people forget that you marry an individual, you don't marry an idea. Someone saying, "I don't want to marry a Black man/woman" or "I want to marry outside my race" is definitely speaking out of personal issues they need to deal with, even someone who says, "I want to marry inside my race" is a little weird to me because you don't know who that woman is going to be. That's why even some militants suddenly end up in IR relationships, cause you can't help it when you meet someone. :yeshrug: Maybe a better way of saying it is, "I'm not ashamed of having married an Egyptian woman, I'm happy with my choice because I married the right woman for me." There could easily have been a Black woman who was the right woman for me, but the perfect lady who came across my life just happened to be descended from the Pharaohs. :ahh::noah::banderas::ohlawd::whew:
 
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Damn...

Can you please make an AMA (‘Ask Me Anything’) thread or OG Chronicles about your early teenage and adult life, the Vietnam War, stories during Segregation/The Civil Rights Movement, your affliation with the Black Panther Party (that is if you had one), and changes to the black community that you witnessed from the 60s to the 90s.

:feedmj:

Also, can you make a thread giving life advice (in education, career, relationship... etc.) for the young brehs

:salute:

Would be all :duck: don't enable these trolls larping online we got enough already:mjpls:.
 

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Oh, I agree with that. I'm not saying that interracial marriage is a "good" thing or a "bad" thing, I'm just saying it's a natural thing from the communities we live in now, by itself it ain't indicative of any disorder or anything, and by itself it ain't gonna lead to any sort of horrible outcomes unless you start shunning all the children from mixed marriages or some shyt like that.

Someone can still get in an IR relationship for the wrong reasons, there are people with fetishes and insecurities and who listen to the wrong kind of societal pressure, but just the fact that there are a lot of IR relationships ain't a bad thing in itself.





Of course I would be. :stopitslime:

Everyone on here who knows my posting history knows I'm pro-Black woman and I don't stand for people who shyt on Black queens. :usure:

I never "planned" to marry an Egyptian women, people forget that you marry an individual, you don't marry an idea. Someone saying, "I don't want to marry a Black man/woman" or "I want to marry outside my race" is definitely speaking out of personal issues they need to deal with, even someone who says, "I want to marry inside my race" is a little weird to me because you don't know who that woman is going to be. That's why even some militants suddenly end up in IR relationships, cause you can't help it when you meet someone. :yeshrug: Maybe a better way of saying it is, "I'm not ashamed of having married an Egyptian woman, I'm happy with my choice because I married the right woman for me." There could easily have been a Black woman who was the right woman for me, but the perfect lady who came across my life just happened to be descended from the Pharaohs. :ahh::noah::banderas::ohlawd::whew:


(to clarify from earlier, she Coptic Egyptian, original Egyptian, from family that has never had Muslim ancestry FWIW, though that doesn't matter to me as much as it matters to some of ya'all)
Copts are not descended from the pharaohs. But I digress...
Btw I was not crapping on you for marrying IR I just don’t care for people trying to push it relationships as the cure to racism. People have been mixing from the dawn of men was all I was saying.
 

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Right I have a hard time believing dime black women are struggling to find bm....

Heck that's where most the competition is. Attractive bw always got bm in the picture.

If an attractive bw dates out it's because she wants to or is on her :mjpls:

Miss me wit, not having bm in the picture :mjlol:
It’s an excuse cause an attractive bm can always find a dude who’s black from a different culture. Black ain’t a monolith. I just be like if you want a white, Asian, whatever man just say so.
 
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