You'll get to 72 if you're lucky, lol. A lot of my friends died in their 20s and 30s in VietNam and drug overdoses and gang violence back in the 60s and 70s so I'm a survivor.
As intermarriage spreads, fault lines are exposed
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You'll get to 72 if you're lucky, lol. A lot of my friends died in their 20s and 30s in VietNam and drug overdoses and gang violence back in the 60s and 70s so I'm a survivor.
Right I have a hard time believing dime black women are struggling to find bm....Lies
I don’t even feel like arguing for real for real if you gonna pretend these chicks ain’t partly guilty. It’s the evil c00n nikkas that are ignoring beautiful dime piece black women that want them in mass. It’s not these chicks ignoring those men until those men date out and they end up old and single. You got it playa
Heck that's where most the competition is. Attractive bw always got bm in the picture.
If an attractive bw dates out it's because she wants to or is on her
Miss me wit, not having bm in the picture
Either this is the most random gimmick I've ever seen or you're too damn old to be on the internet
You write like you're talking to your grandchildren
No foul meaning intended, just confusion
I've been on the internet since 1997 when I got my first computer. I think that a lot of the people here are young enough to be my grandchild so you aren't far off :-)
@Macho Mane you ain't the Oldest OG round here any more man.....
How so?Look who's backsliding
I just said don't complain about white supremacy while dating out...
Inb4 this turns into a Black Man bashing thread fukking \= marriage if you really think only 12% of Black Women are dating/fukking IRall this really says is non BM will fukk BW, but ask them to put a ring on it
obviously this doesn't apply to the baddest of Black Women.
great point
People make to many assumptions and presumptions. There are Black Hispanics that live in places like Orlando and Atlanta. When I was visiting friends down in Orlando I met a lot of Black Hispancis from the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Cuba and Central America. I have even met Black women from Guatemala and Hondouras. There are a lot of Black women in the USA from other countries and a lot of them date African American men.
ogc163
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I'm a Black Guatemalan myself, again I have no reason to believe the issue you presented could skew the data.
Arguments re: interracial relationships in the black community are often based on statistics that are exaggerated, weaponized, or flat out wrong. It's really fascinating to me as a real-time study of how propaganda can affect us.
I was wondering where that "3 million more black women" statistic that @Will Ross said could have come from. These statistics are used to promote dating out to black women by implying that there are 3 million more MARRIAGEABLE BLACK WOMEN than black men.This instantly stood out as
to me, so I went to the CPS table creator on census.gov(Current Population Survey (CPS) - CPS Table Creator - U.S. Census Bureau) to see if it was possibly derived the way I thought it was.
U.S. black female population: 22,595,000
U.S. black male population: 19,969,000
= 2,626,000 million more black females than males (13.15% more women).
So the 3 million figure is clearly exaggerated (Rounding up by 374,000 people
).
Now obviously women outlive men, and black men especially fall prey to a host of complications later in life like diabetes, stroke, heart attacks, cancer etc.
Because of this, if we look at an age breakdown we can see that in the 65 and over category there are 828,000 more women than men. These 65+ women should obviously NOT be included in the number of black women eligible for marriage
.
The next age bracket is 18-64, where there are 1,889,000 more black women than black men. This range age range is pretty broad, so obviously not all black women out of this 1,889,000 are eligible for marriage for age reasons.
So how many of them are eligible for marriage? What is the eligible age range?
Is it 18-64? Surely not. Is it 18-40? 21-35?
First we need to define a marriageable age range before we can determine if there is a gap or not! We can't just count all the surplus women and call it a day!
Plus there are generally more women than men across racial lines, but more on that later.
I was wondering where that "3 million more black women" statistic that @Will Ross said could have come from. These statistics are used to promote dating out to black women by implying that there are 3 million more MARRIAGEABLE BLACK WOMEN than black men.This instantly stood out as
to me, so I went to the CPS table creator on census.gov(Current Population Survey (CPS) - CPS Table Creator - U.S. Census Bureau) to see if it was possibly derived the way I thought it was.U.S. black female population: 22,595,000
U.S. black male population: 19,969,000
= 2,626,000 million more black females than males (13.15% more women).
So the 3 million figure is clearly exaggerated (Rounding up by 374,000 people
). Now obviously women outlive men, and black men especially fall prey to a host of complications later in life like diabetes, stroke, heart attacks, cancer etc.
Because of this, if we look at an age breakdown we can see that in the 65 and over category there are 828,000 more women than men. These 65+ women should obviously NOT be included in the number of black women eligible for marriage
.The next age bracket is 18-64, where there are 1,889,000 more black women than black men. This range age range is pretty broad, so obviously not all black women out of this 1,889,000 are eligible for marriage for age reasons.
So how many of them are eligible for marriage? What is the eligible age range?
Is it 18-64? Surely not. Is it 18-40? 21-35?
First we need to define a marriageable age range before we can determine if there is a gap or not! We can't just count all the surplus women and call it a day!
Plus there are generally more women than men across racial lines, but more on that later.
Then you know what I am talking about. You may not understand this, because you might not the history of Race construct in the USA. Hispanic is usually not distinguished in this Country. So on applications you would likely check Hispanic rather than Black or African American. Even though you are a Black Guatemalan if you married an Black American woman/African American woman you would likely be considered in an interracial marriage. Even though you and me would both know that you are just as Black as your wife would be. That is the point. That 24% is likely grossly inflated.
ogc163
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No, some Black people of Latin American descent would check hispanic and some would check black and some would check other. The amount of Black people of latin american descent who would check hispanic and marry an AA would probably not be substantial enough in number to tip the scale of the 24%. That is my point, black people from latin america are not deep enough to skew the statistics...but I am open to evidence and a logical argument showing otherwise.
Hispanic is considered a culture in this Country. They even distinguish what is Black person/African American on many applications in the USA, by belonging to certain racial groups and having ancestry in the USA. They almost always define what it is to be a Hispanic too. The two groups are never defined as the same, because to be Hispanic denotes having some relation to Spain. That is the whole notion of racial construct in this Country and it has been that way for a long time.
There have always been Hispanic people in this Country, most notably Puerto Ricans. Puerto Ricans almost always identify themselves as Hispanic, but without even looking it up I am pretty sure that Black men/African American are one of the largest groups that Puerto Rican women marry outside of Puerto Rican men and White men. I am positive that most African Americans and Puerto Ricans know exactly what I am stating.
Additionally, you and other have put to much emphasis on 24%. Your next question should have been 24% of what? All marriages? All marriages of African Americans? All marriages of African American men? What are they measuring? People see a number and they don't even bother to find out what is being measured and the kicker is that many African American men never get married. So what is being measured? Which means that the men actually getting interracially married would be less than 25% of all African American men that marry; which means that it would be even a smaller fraction of all African American men.
EDIT:
Notice that 52% of African American men have never been married.
Notice that Hispanic women are separated out and they are the 3rd largest group that African American men marry behind African American women and White women.
BlackDemographics.com | MARRIAGE
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DrBanneker
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Arguments re: interracial relationships in the black community are often based on statistics that are exaggerated, weaponized, or flat out wrong. It's really fascinating to me as a real-time study of how propaganda can affect us.
I was wondering where that "3 million more black women" statistic that @Will Ross said could have come from. These statistics are used to promote dating out to black women by implying that there are 3 million more MARRIAGEABLE BLACK WOMEN than black men.This instantly stood out as
U.S. black female population: 22,595,000
U.S. black male population: 19,969,000
= 2,626,000 million more black females than males (13.15% more women).
So the 3 million figure is clearly exaggerated (Rounding up by 374,000 people
Now obviously women outlive men, and black men especially fall prey to a host of complications later in life like diabetes, stroke, heart attacks, cancer etc.
Because of this, if we look at an age breakdown we can see that in the 65 and over category there are 828,000 more women than men. These 65+ women should obviously NOT be included in the number of black women eligible for marriage
The next age bracket is 18-64, where there are 1,889,000 more black women than black men. This range age range is pretty broad, so obviously not all black women out of this 1,889,000 are eligible for marriage for age reasons.
So how many of them are eligible for marriage? What is the eligible age range?
Is it 18-64? Surely not. Is it 18-40? 21-35?
First we need to define a marriageable age range before we can determine if there is a gap or not! We can't just count all the surplus women and call it a day!
Plus there are generally more women than men across racial lines, but more on that later.
Good looking at the numbers. Here is what people don't realize when they throw out how many supposedly eligible Black women are single:
1. Like you said, only consider 18-24, don't throw young girls and geezers into the mix.
2. Every race has more women than men because women live longer and are less likely to die in infancy
3. About 1.3 million of this gap (in 2010) was due to Black men and women over the age of 50---we die early unfortunately so a lot of single women are widows
4. 18-40, prime marriage age the gap (in 2010) was only 522,000
5. Black men are traditionally undercounted so the gap in 4 is actually less
6. A large part of the gap in 4 is women who are in the 30-40 age group who came of age in the violent times of 1980s and 1990s where homicide was a much bigger killer of young Black men. Though there are still problems, the rate is much lower and women coming of age now at the lower end of the age range will have a much smaller gap going forward
DrBanneker
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I grew up in a solid middle class Black community in the ATL. Most of us went to public school but of those that went to majority white private schools I would say about 40% married out (White, Asian, Indian, etc.). I am talking about people who weren't mixed too. I also notice Black people in White neighborhoods who go to White public schools don't swirl as hard as the private school ones.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against IR but I think majority White private schools both put people around not many Blacks and a high level of non-Blacks (economics, social status, education) so that only a very small proportion of the Black community, or even the general population, can hope to favorably compare. It just puts their aesthetics and interests in a different place. I keep this in mind raising my kids.
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NoirDynosaur
Yurrrrrrrrrr
That other alternative is called "intercultural/cross-cultural relationships". Dating another black person of Afro descent from a different country/continent can introduce one to new customs, traditions, new perspectives, etc. That's not really promoted in Cac countries since we're seen as a fetish/danger to others but go to Afro diasporic events and you'll see different ethnicity having a joyful time.
The thing about Hispanic is that...it's a culture, same with Arab. You can have white hispanics, black hispanics, mulattos, mongloid hispanics, etc.