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You dont stand above anybody intellectually by mocking their views. The bible and other religious writings have a wealth of information that we all can learn from. Just like we look back at people like Galileo, and Plato and respect them as great scientific minds or thinkers. The people that wrote the bible were great social thinkers. Their teachings have stood the test of time no matter if you believe in god or not. People have hijacked these teachings used them for their own benefits, and have created religion as we know it today, but that doesn't mean you should discredit the teachings of the bible.

You have to understand at the time of the writings these people were not trying to create a religion or gain followers, they were explaining the world the best way they knew how. The bible is full of real people and real accounts of real events. Many of the writings use very epic imagery, cause there was no movies or special effects back then, so if a person wanted to creat a dramatic moment for an audience they had to use words and scenarios we would see as unrealistic today.

You mock the bible as fairy tales, but truth is the people who wrote the bible and other religious teachings were intellectually light years ahead of any of us here having this debate.

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You mock the bible as fairy tales, but truth is the people who wrote the bible and other religious teachings were intellectually light years ahead of any of us here having this debate.


Uh..how? Because they wrote fairy tales that had messages meant to corral the people under a message? Picture books do that for children today. The fact that they got people to believe that it was truly the "word of God" is what we should be applauding. They must have done some crazy shyt to get people to start believing.

Intellectually light years ahead of us though? Doubtful. There's no "truth" behind that bullshyt statement.
 

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Uh..how? Because they wrote fairy tales that had messages meant to corral the people under a message? Picture books do that for children today. The fact that they got people to believe that it was truly the "word of God" is what we should be applauding. They must have done some crazy shyt to get people to start believing.

Intellectually light years ahead of us though? Doubtful. There's no "truth" behind that bullshyt statement.
You answered your own question. The proof is that people still believe and follow the messages thousands of years later. You are here debating these fairy tales all these years later. Yet you mock their relevance.

Have you read the bible?
 

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You answered your own question. The proof is that people still believe and follow the messages thousands of years later. You are here debating these fairy tales all these years later. Yet you mock their relevance.

Have you read the bible?

When I was younger. Not all the way from cover to cover. I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion. A lot of religions have been followed for a long time. That doesn't make one more "real" than another. The fact that something has longevity doesn't automatically make it "real" or make its followers right. I don't really see what your point is.

People believe in what they want to believe in for a multitude of reasons and none of them are realistic reasons.
 

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It's actually ironic when you think about it

The criticism is that black folks were following the "white man" and his God, but at the same time what are you doing now? This same "white man" now says there is no God and nikkas start to grand stand like they had a revelation out of their own intellect and have come to educate the ignorant masses.

Nikka, we been rejecting massa's ideas since Hannibal. But you don't find it interesting that the most religious of cultures are the ones being dominated by the cultures with less religion? Or to be more on point, you don't find it interesting that usually the people with power are the least religious? I feel like the powerless find hope and strength through religion, while the powerful feel they don't need it at all because they have the power. I think faith is a good thing, but in a cultural, communal sense, as to establish moral guidelines for one's community and personal life, but not to dominate someone else, or allow someone else to dominate you, or use it as a crutch instead of taking real action.
 

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:russ:

And nikkas still haven't dislodged themselves from the white man's market driven capitalist system and gone to live a nice tribal lifestyle reminiscent to the one their ancestors lived pre CAC.



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This is pure ignorance:

Economic history of Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Egyptian (and later, Roman) city of Alexandria (founded by Alexander the Great in 334 BC), was one of the hubs for Mediterranean trade for many centuries. Well into the 19th century Egypt remained one of the most developed parts of the world outside of Europe.

Nikkaz been hustlin since 334 BC. Fukk outta here. Like the Visigoths or the Vikings were on a money makin' tip :stopitslime: Learn your history
 

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When I was younger. Not all the way from cover to cover. I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion. A lot of religions have been followed for a long time. That doesn't make one more "real" than another. The fact that something has longevity doesn't automatically make it "real" or make its followers right. I don't really see what your point is.

People believe in what they want to believe in for a multitude of reasons and none of them are realistic reasons.

I never said any one religion was more "real" than any other. I simply said they ALL have relevant teachings and mocking them as fairy tales serves no purpose. You'd do better to try to read and LEARN as much as you can. Things don't have to be "real" to be worth reading and learning from. As much as you won't admit it you already live by some religious teachings and ideals.
 

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I aint reading all that shyt breh, but I got the point with the first 2 sentences and I agree.

Muthafukkas need to stop waiting for their heaven in the afterlife and get theirs now.
 

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:childplease: Ancient Egypt was NOT capitalist. The link you posted mentions nothing of the such and neither do anyone's (regardless of race) history books. :what:

:heh: What the f*ck is a merchant b, socialist?

Ghana Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Ghana Empire or Wagadou Empire[1] (existed before c. 830 until c. 1235) was located in what is now southeastern Mauritania, and Western Mali. Complex societies had existed in the region since about 1500 BCE, and around Ghana's core region since about 300 CE. When Ghana's ruling dynasty began is uncertain, it is first mentioned in documentary sources around 830 CE by Al-Kwarizmi.

The Empire grew rich from the trans-Saharan trade in gold and salt. This trade produced an increasing surplus, allowing for larger urban centres. It also encouraged territorial expansion to gain control over the lucrative trade routes.

Most of our information about the economy of Ghana comes from merchants, and therefore we know more about the commercial aspects of its economy, and less about the way in which the rulers and nobles may have obtained agricultural products through tribute or taxation. The empire became wealthy because of their trading. They had an abundant amount of gold and salt. Al-Bakri noted that merchants had to pay a one gold dinar tax on imports of salt, and two on exports of salt. Other products paid fixed dues, al-Bakri mentioned both copper and "other goods." Imports probably included products such as textiles, ornaments and other materials. Many of the hand-crafted leather goods found in old Morocco may also had their origins in the empire.[23] The main centre of trade was Koumbi Saleh

Muthaf*ckaz had businesses, traded, and paid taxes, and were doing this ON A RECORDED BASIS since 830 CE. Sounds very tribal to me :stopitslime:
 

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I've been saying this for ages. White people didn't take over the world by praying. In fact white people made black people think praying would help their situation instead of acquiring money. You will realize I'm right when you hit rock bottom. (Just like you always do.)
 
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