Are we witnessing the NBA Playoffs or NBA Rico Hines scrimmages?

[Dwight Howard]

Harden also shat the bed in 2017 at home, Kobe got swept with HCA; I think these guys are overstating the playoff atmosphere, good play is gonna be good play bubble or not

players can get shook playing at home easily. The pressure of delivering for all your fans in the arena is on your mind.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Who gives a fukk man everyone is playing under the same circumstances

U the anti box score guy fukk does it matter to you if Mitchell scored 57

Is this directed at me?



You've got me all wrong if you think I'm arguing that these playoffs don't matter or count. I don't believe in that asterisk bullshyt. Again, for the muh'fukken 100th time, all I intended to do with this thread was start a discussion. I wasn't trying to take either side; just get folks to acknowledge the bubble-factors, yet at the same time take the result(s) as having the same intrinsic value as any other season.

I sure as hell didn't miss this shyt on this board where you have to keep reiterating your point and nikkas still get you fukked up. How many more times do y'all nikkas want me to put it in black and white?

 

[Apprentice]

players can get shook playing at home easily. The pressure of delivering for all your fans in the arena is on your mind.

Lls this Harden year to win a chip then

 

[tremonthustler1]

These nikkaz ain't staying in no bubble next year for 7 months and for some teams 8-9 months.

Oh I wasn't specifically mentioning bubbles (for the playoffs they might do this again though) but for the regular season there won't be fans. The arenas are gonna be cavernous. No fans, and they may cover the seats with ads


In a way it's a shame that Nets /Warriors game w/o fans didn't happen because at least there woulda been a reference point for game performance.

 

[Kenny West]

the title will be deserved, the inflated stats we’re seeing is something that is more difficult to contextualize. but maybe it’s just the norm moving forward in this inflated stats era. getting to the point like the NFL where you can’t measure current QBs to past ones purely by statistics. that doesn’t mean accolades are diminished though to me, just the numbers

While you make a good point it will be a weird thing to contextualize going forward.

"Yea but Dame first ring doesnt count he didnt have fans yelling at him during free throws that season"

 

[#1 pick]

Sit your dumbass down.

This thread doesn't have a cotdamn thing to do with Steph or Kyrie. I simply made it to generate some discussion, to unwind people's perceptions of the conditions of these playoffs as it relates to a regular playoff setting. The main reason I did it is I wanted to gauge people's responses now, at the start, and see if it changed as the playoffs went on.

Dumbass? You need to get your act together. I haven't been rude to you so don't do it to me.

This thread is a non-starter because the reality is, this is only happening because of a global pandemic, we see there are advantages and disadvantages but this is the reality of a world under COVID. There is nothing you can do to get a more safe professional environment. We know this isn't of the norm but we are in a global pandemic, what else do you expect?

 

[#1 pick]

While you make a good point it will be a weird thing to contextualize going forward.

"Yea but Dame first ring doesnt count he didnt have fans yelling at him during free throws that season"

That's the thing, he's trying to make this more than what it is. At the end of the day, this is the extremes that had to be taken so we can play under a pandemic. He wants to be this online Skip Bayless but this thread truthfully is wasteful thinking.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Dumbass? You need to get your act together. I haven't been rude to you so don't do it to me.

This thread is a non-starter because the reality is, this is only happening because of a global pandemic, we see there are advantages and disadvantages but this is the reality of a world under COVID. There is nothing you can do to get a more safe professional environment. We know this isn't of the norm but we are in a global pandemic, what else do you expect?

There's nothing I can do to get a more safe professional environment? What do I expect? What in the fukk is you even talking about, my bro? Matter of fact, don't answer that.

 

[Bigb41513]

Rico Hines scrimmages

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Welcome to 2020: where everything that we've known to be NBA basketball isn't really basketball, after all. Crowds/fans? Nah, not NBA basketball. Homecourt advantage? Nah, not NBA basketball. Visual/background pollution regarding the net/rim? Nah, not NBA basketball. Players, current and past, talking about the differences of playing-factors in the bubble and in a regular setting? Nah, not NBA basketball.

You truly struggle with reading comprehension.

instead of arguing semantics of the label I put on those issues you should’ve tried to actually comprehend the point being made which was around the question of if these guys were playing at their best, not if these non bball () issues affected the game. No matter how much romanticizing of them you want to do by pining on about their place in the “fabric” of the game it doesn’t change the fact that not dealing with them allows them to play better...and it also allows their competition to play better.

I already cited one example with bad calls, but another is travel. Travel in 2019 was very different than travel in 1959. Wherever they could improve over the years, they have. No matter how “impressed” you were by a player’s ability to overcome those travel issues. Shorter flight schedules, better accommodations, better security, whatever... efforts have been made to minimize its impact where possible. And guess what, if teleportation becomes available, the NBA would be amongst the first organizations to use no matter how mad it makes you.

The fan impacts are aligned with the league’s money making agenda, so I don’t see them trying to minimize that....except in the case of a global pandemic. And guess what, if another pandemic hits where packed stadiums are not viable, they’ll play empty again.

 

[FTBS]

It's what we got brehs . Comparing this to past seasons and bemoaning what's missing or has been added is pointless and frankly rather masochistic. The normal way wasn't an option. It's this or no basketball. Going on and on about how it usually is like going on and on about your ex's (who doesn't want you anymore) mouthgame when you got a girl at the crib that may or may not be as good but either way she is available and willing.

 

[Torrential]

This disingenuous fakkit wouldn't be complaining if Draymond Green got his team into the playoffs

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

74% of teams with HCA won their series because they have the better players .

If those teams that worked hard for HCA have to now play teams on an even playing field that should mean their title should be even more legitimatized right? That’s what your post seems to be indicating .


You can look back 30 years and you’re not going to find many teams that won the title based on their HCA. More times than not it’s the best player/team winning it all . It’ll happen again this year ,bubble or not .


Houston missed 100 threes with their HCA
GSW lost a 3-1 lead with their HCA
Philly got their soul snatched by Tor with their HCA


The fan/HCA shyt doesn’t mean anything if the other team has the better squad .

No I’m not implying any of that. Because it isn’t any added pressure on either side, they’re playing in an empty gym. None of it is legitimized has been my stance from the beginning.
Was just addressing your , ‘It’s SOLELY the talent that wins chips’ position. Denouncing the other factors of a playoff run is just outright disingenuous, as I already stated.

 

[ReggieFlare]

Those distractions and how you manage them is part of the NBA bro. That's part of what seperate superstars from the pack.

This is valid if we're holding players to NBA standards. If we're just talking about pure skill and love for the game, I think this bubble is giving us the purest form of these players you'll ever see.

 

[Numpsay]

I just wished we could have witnessed Steph and Klay get busy shooting in this gym. KD too.