Are we witnessing the NBA Playoffs or NBA Rico Hines scrimmages?

[Shogun]

seems to make sense to * the stats, but respect the title.
They all their playing under the same circumstances.

 

[Apprentice]

Didn't Houston miss 27 straight 3s at home?

Harden also shat the bed in 2017 at home, Kobe got swept with HCA; I think these guys are overstating the playoff atmosphere, good play is gonna be good play bubble or not

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

You can't answer the question with the same statement I proposed the question around.

Or you just don’t like the answer

You have no legitimate grounds to put more stock in these players not having to face these non-bball issues than the fact that they’re facing better competition (who also aren’t hampered by these non-bball issues).

Put another way, they have to beat their comp getting less help via unforced errors from outside factors.

 

[UserNameless]

Just means you're seeing these players play at their best. As long as they all play hard, why do I care that the uncontrolled challenges are missing? Just means we get to see how good everyone is without additional pressure outside of it being the playoffs

Close thread .




Damn how many times is some variant of this thread gonna get made?


How much are “they” paying you agents on here to do this shyt ?!!!

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Or you just don’t like the answer

It's not about me liking/disliking anything; I'm only trying to generate discussion around this, and get people to acknowledge the factors, while also taking it in the same frame that it still all counts, regardless.

You have no legitimate grounds to put more stock in these players not having to face these non-bball issues than the fact that they’re facing better competition (who also aren’t hampered by these non-bball issues).

I didn't realize we were discussing "non-bball issues"? What are these issues that you're talking about, and exactly how are they separate to what we know as NBA basketball?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Close thread .




Damn how many times is some variant of this thread gonna get made?


How much are “they” paying you agents on here to do this shyt ?!!!

Care to point me in the direction where a thread discussing all the differences between a regular playoffs setting and a bubble setting has been made in the past. Keywords are discussion and differences here, cause I haven't seen a thread that's touching on it. There's been a lot of shouting with keystrokes from both sides in a lot of threads, but not a discussion.

 

[UserNameless]

Care to point me in the direction where a thread discussing all the differences between a regular playoffs setting and a bubble setting has been made in the past. Keywords are discussion and differences here, cause I haven't seen a thread that's touching on it.

It has been made and discussed several times . The main one even had a poll and the overwhelming majority voted that the bubble setup is legitimate and this year’s champ will legitimate (NO ASTERISK) ... why are you agents still making these threads ?!!!


Mods need to do their jobs

 

[King Poetic]

If my teams wins through this pandemic Lakers and Dodgers it counts

if they don’t I’m making a excuse

life as a fan of sports

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

It's not about me liking/disliking anything; I'm only trying to generate discussion around this, and get people to acknowledge the factors, while also taking it in the same frame that it still all counts, regardless.

I didn't realize we were discussing "non-bball issues"? What are these issues that you're talking about, and exactly how are they separate to what we know as NBA basketball?

You know damn well what issues I’m talking about. I’m not gonna converse with someone being purposefully obtuse.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Didn't Houston miss 27 straight 3s at home?

Harden also shat the bed in 2017 at home, Kobe got swept with HCA; I think these guys are overstating the playoff atmosphere, good play is gonna be good play bubble or not

But fan pressure doesn't have to be away.

Playoff atmosphere includes weight of expectation of performing in front of your own fans. I don't think there's any overstating it. There simply isn't the same pressure to perform when there isn't any fans/crowd - either home or away. It's up to you to then decide if that matters in the result.

 

[threattonature]

There's been a lot of discussion around the legitimacy of this bubble setting and whether or not if it's the real deal.

The conventional basketball-truths:

1. Depth of perception - due to the lack of background visual noise, there's a greater focus of light on the court, rim and net, which gives players a more distinct demarcation when lining up their shots. We've heard players already speak on this:
   
2. Travel - the factor of fatigue is less in play.
3. Crowd - the factor of fan pressure and distraction isn't in play; this is particularly relevant during closing possessions and free-throws.
4. Homecourt advantage - the factor of altitude, familiarity with court makeup, and bounce-factor of rims is all at a net of zero.
5. More perceptual space/less mental intrusion - since there are no fans directly courtside or player benches, players have more comfortability when navigating and shooting near the sidelines.

It's important to acknowledge that these factors exist, and aid in player performance, but at the same time, they all count just the same, even if the conditions/environment aren't identical to seasons of the past.

I agree with the rest but have seen players say the sideline is the one area that's been affected for the worst. They say that having players there and fans was used as a way to gauge how much space they had on the baseline. I don't have hte numbers but it seems there has been more turnovers with players stepping out of bounds in the corners cause they didn't realize how little space they had there.

I think a regular season inside a bubble(s) would actually be feasible.
Maybe have 5 sites, and at any given time 6 teams are there. Each team plays every other team 3 times in the bubble, 15 games per team, playing every other night takes about 2 weeks. Then they can leave the bubble take a week or 2 outside to see their families, practice in their home gyms, return to a new bubble, isolate, quarantine, and repeat the process.

Because travel time inside the bubble would be non existent, teams could play 15 games a lot faster than they would during a regular year.

Mix up the teams in the pods after they leave each bubble, so you're always playing 5 new-ish teams.

Drop conferences and just have a 16 team tournament when the playoffs start.

There would always be games on, although not every team would be playing--some teams would be on a 3 week home break/travel/quarantine at any given time.

I think that's the idea the NBA has been floating around. A bunch of smaller mini bubbles with a break in between for seeing families. If they did that would be a perfect time to transition to a 1-16 playoff seeding. I think the big decision will be if they think they'll be able to get fans back at some point or not. I think the NBA will proceed with the thought of having fans by the end of the season so they'll want some flexibility towards the end of the season.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You know damn well what issues I’m talking about. I’m not gonna converse with someone being purposefully obtuse.

No, I do not.

You're talking about "non bball issues". I didn't realize at any point during the discussion of this thread those issues came up. If you think that the issues discussed in this thread which aren't in play during the bubble (but are in play during a regular playoff environment) aren't bball-related, then you're wrong.

 

[Apprentice]

But fan pressure doesn't have to be away.

Playoff atmosphere includes weight of expectation of performing in front of your own fans. I don't think there's any overstating it. There simply isn't the same pressure to perform when there isn't any fans/crowd - either home or away. It's up to you to then decide if that matters in the result.

I feel u bra but damn if that shyt really has that much of an impact on these professional players it’s kinda sad to me lol

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

No, I do not.

You're talking about "non bball issues". I didn't realize at any point during the discussion of this thread those issues came up. If you think that the issues discussed in this thread which aren't in play during the bubble (but are in play during a regular playoff environment) aren't bball-related, then you're wrong.

Again, you’re being obtuse trying to argue semantics. You know exactly what issues I’m talking about because you listed many of them in the fukking OP.

Your whole stance is just as dumb as people who argued against instant replay.

 

[Versa]

None of you would be saying shyt if your squads were competiting for a championship in the bubble, so just enjoy the games and shut the fukk up.