Never knew it was this serious
Are we about to enter a boom period? - Triple H: "We are setting records all over. It's a Special Time."
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MenacingMonk
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The last time Wrasslin was even close to another boom period was Danielson’s yes movement. There’s nothing even coming close to that today.
The world is getting back to regular schedule post-Covidmania and inflation/price gouging is happening right now. That could give part of an explanation why wrestling is “hot.”
There will never be another boom period in Wrasslin.
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Even "Summer of Punk" was considered a flop on a financial stasis. The "Yes" movement did not move the unit. Wrestling being in a "boom" period resembles how it was in the 70s and somewhat 80s where it hit pop culture, but did not do crazy amounts as to say the Attitude/Monday Night War era.
Until casual heads know what a "Dark Order" is, wear a :Bloodline" shirt in public outside the wrestling bubble, and can name five wrestlers off the hip without the typical tropes (Cena Rock, Kane, Taker, Austin, etc).
Wrestling will never outlive its peak of 1998-01.
On the real, if wrestling was in a "boom" period...why every promotion rely on old heads to move the needle? If the business is "booming", why need Brock and em to make people give a shyt. Hell, even in Japan Muta's old ass doing a "retirement" tour for the whole fukking year. Business stinks if you got to rely on busted knees Muta to have heads sit in the seats, and Nakamura to put on a struggle match with Muta for folks to give a shyt.
Finn Baller
Superstar
In the absolute peak of the Monday Night Wars both companies were pulling major TV ratings and pulling sell out crowds in NBA arenas, I can't call it a wrestling boom period if only 1 company is pulling big ratings and putting on shows in football stadiums. The business overall is in a very healthy place but it's still 1 titan and then everybody else
Imagine Raw beating Monday Night Football and it being normal
I'd say if WWE can get to 4-5 millly a week along with AEW hitting 2-3 milly a week. In this time we boomin then.
Man, those numbers back then...whew
. Kids at school wondering if Austin was going to kill Mcmahon. If Stink was going to finally talk. If Tommy Dreamer going to put a bullet in Raven's ass for always making him take the L.Even to this very day, you have rappers using the OGs as a bar. Like how many times you're going to hear "keep the mask on like Rey Mysterio" or "Kane"? I blame wrestling not going beyond that period on the fact that it wants to continue to live in that period.
No different from the NBA. You have the same ole oldheads like AI and Jordan being brought up over the youngins, because the youngins are not making heads watch the game. Could it be the business have no faith in the youngins despite being athletically superior to the athletes of the past? Could it be that the business itself trying to figure out what went wrong with the decline and continue to milk nostalgia, or the fanbase that continues to be assheads and not accept the product for what it is?
All and all, we will never get to a "boom", because the product itself is a whimper in 4K.
Let's be honest wrestling was just a fad back then just like Pokémon and Jnco jeans
Most of them only cared about rock or Austin
As soon as the media deemed wrestling uncool again in mid 01 the casuals left
Wrestling was never considered cool even in thr attitude Era its just because rock and Austin it was so popular
Exactly. Wrestling is a thriving niche. It benefited from the streaming era, than most forms of entertainment because wrestling fans can easily watch a Japanese wrestling match for 9.99 yen. You can follow the Indies and the big leagues with one touch of a smartphone. On that level, yes it's thriving but "boom"
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
Pokémon is still a thing. A fad fades out of existence.
That last sentence is just dumb since everyone was popping for these dudes. How is that not cool?
Eh...the biggest stigma with wrestling around those times was the "f" word. Folks were more concerned with if wrestling was fake or not. Even in the 80s during the Rock and Wrestling era, it was all about if these dudes are really hitting each other. Outside of the Rock and Austin, WWF was successful because it found a lane in Crash TV. In a era where blood, guts, sex, and profanity was the thing, WWF/E jumped on that shyt with no sort of issues, but folks fail to realize that WWF/E got a shyt load of flack for the Attitude Era. The edginess of wrestling drew everybody in including casuals who wanted that blood and guts type of feel.Once 2001 hit, the whole demographic changed with the following:
- WWF became the only competitor to itself
- No alternatives to the business outside of the regional indies
- 9/11
- The dumb ass InVasion angle that went no where
Like i said it was just a fadPokémon is still a thing. A fad fades out of existence.
That last sentence is just dumb since everyone was popping for these dudes. How is that not cool?
Rock and Austin were still there from mid 01 to 03 but the casuals Didn't care anymore cause the media had moved on from wrestling at that point and so did they
Wrestling fans overhyped the cool factor of the Attitude Era. The golden era of the 80s is closer to being accepted and cool cause people thought it was still real back then
Don’t no one give a shyt about aew. Roman reigns is in a boom so wwe gets paid. That’s really it. Casuals are fukking with Roman hard, y’all don’t even know. Absolutely no one gives a shyt about aew, they don’t even do 4k ticket sales per show lol.
Lurk Angle
All Star
Yup
Also dudes forget how the UFC and reality tv took wrasslin shine
Social media completely killed it tho
Casual fan interest dipped from 01-05
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This post is a good point of contextMan, those numbers back then...whew
Even to this very day, you have rappers using the OGs as a bar. Like how many times you're going to hear "keep the mask on like Rey Mysterio" or "Kane"? I blame wrestling not going beyond that period on the fact that it wants to continue to live in that period.
No different from the NBA. You have the same ole oldheads like AI and Jordan being brought up over the youngins, because the youngins are not making heads watch the game. Could it be the business have no faith in the youngins despite being athletically superior to the athletes of the past? Could it be that the business itself trying to figure out what went wrong with the decline and continue to milk nostalgia, or the fanbase that continues to be assheads and not accept the product for what it is?
All and all, we will never get to a "boom", because the product itself is a whimper in 4K.
A lot of that 90s shyt is constantly and consistently referenced because so many paradigms were shifted during that time
The Attitude Era popped not only because it was edgy by wrestling's standards, it was edgy by society's standards. The novelty of "
they're showing this on TV???" was so strong. The product was riveting because of the stories yea but there was an extra layer of intrigue because of the spectacle being witnessed. Mentioning AI is a good parallel because he was a spectacle in his own right. His style of play and his appearance ran counter to status quo at the time
I don't see anyway for wrestling to regain that level of spectacle when it has social media fukkery to compete with
Lurk Angle
All Star
This right here
Once 2001 hit, the whole demographic changed with the following:
It was just a once in a lifetime situation that saved the business from dying, but kept the business in the past....
- WWF became the only competitor to itself
- No alternatives to the business outside of the regional indies
- 9/11
- The dumb ass InVasion angle that went no where
I always said the attitude era helped and hurt the business
It helped because it made wwf hot an wcw competitive
But it hurt cause of all of the hottshoting wwf did
People forgot the attitude era was hotshotted to death every week constantly
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
People tuned out because Cokeboy monopolized the industry.