Are we about to enter a boom period? - Triple H: "We are setting records all over. It's a Special Time."

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It’s not a mainstream boom, but a boom within the industry. I’lol say it’s the internet that has made it more available to find and talk about.
I think we're in a boom, it's just a boom looks different now. Although there are more things to take people's attention now than in the past so it's smaller here in the US, there's is more global viewership/attendance/purchasing than in the past as well.
 

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I think we're in a boom, it's just a boom looks different now. Although there are more things to take people's attention now than in the past so it's smaller here in the US, there's is more global viewership/attendance/purchasing than in the past as well.

I see a boom where there’s financial and mainstream success. Wrasslin just isn’t hitting on the mainstream like it did during the late 90s/ early 2000s. It’s still noticeable beyond the wrestling bubble, but it’s more low key. Money wise, both big companies are making money, so if you see boom from just a financial POV, we’re seeing it.

Wrestling as a community is in its own boom. There’s plenty to watch or attend (if you’re into the Indy scene).
 

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Money wise, both big companies are making money, so if you see boom from just a financial POV, we’re seeing it.
Technically the financial bottom line are what boom/bust terminology have always been talking about tho.

25 years ago, to have this kind of financial "boom" the industry needed it to come from more Americans who spent less per customer adjusted for inflation than fans do now and that resulted in more conversation in the mainstream. Now it's more money from more international fans who have those conversations on social media. But even still, wrestling is becoming more popular with Americans of all ages atm too, leading to more conversations on social media and in person as evidenced by the explosions of wrestling clubs in schools all over the country. I doubt it will ever be like it was back then, but success rarely looks the same decades apart.

Avatar sold fewer tickets than Gone With the Wind and actually generated less of the mainstream's attention at the time but that doesn't make it any less successful.
 

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Technically the financial bottom line are what boom/bust terminology have always been talking about tho.
I’m aware, but before I found out the legit definition from the capital view, the word boom to me meant popularity and success. It’s evident I’m not the only one who sees/saw it that way in here.
 
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Wrestling isn't going to have a stranglehold on the mainstream. It's like my Lil Baby and Lil Durk comparison. There's rappers going to platinum or double platinum but large swaths of the country have no idea who they are. That's what we're seeing in wrestling but on an even larger scale. My point was everything is niche. Even shyt that's really popular and financially well off. There's no more Tom Cruise, Michael Jackson, 2Pac, Prince, Madonna, Michael Jordan, Hulk Hogan, anymore. Names that EVERYONE knows. That's not how it works anymore.

Also, You can't just look at TV viewership and say that's the end all be all to popularity. There's YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Peacock, all types of avenues for people to CONSUME wrestling content without actually sitting in front of a TV.
 

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Wrestling isn't going to have a stranglehold on the mainstream. It's like my Lil Baby and Lil Durk comparison. There's rappers going to platinum or double platinum but large swaths of the country have no idea who they are. That's what we're seeing in wrestling but on an even larger scale. My point was everything is niche. Even shyt that's really popular and financially well off. There's no more Tom Cruise, Michael Jackson, 2Pac, Prince, Madonna, Michael Jordan, Hulk Hogan, anymore. Names that EVERYONE knows. That's not how it works anymore.

Also, You can't just look at TV viewership and say that's the end all be all to popularity. There's YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Peacock, all types of avenues for people to CONSUME wrestling content without actually sitting in front of a TV.
Yeah, this is true.

The internet ended the era of mass culture (1950s-2000s)

We're in the post mass culture era, now where everybody's a little bit famous, but nobody's "Michael Jackson famous" any more.
 

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TNA's record attendance was like 6000 fans. When people say "but they used to average 2 million viewers" or whatever the number was it was a lot easier to do that when everyone had cable. Unfortunately it never translated to live attendance or even PPV buys. They'd usually do about 20-30,000 buys or something aside from shyt like Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle.

At one point I really fukked with TNA too. When Kurt, Joe, Sting and Christian all came in :banderas:

I'm currently listening to the Lapsed Fan podcast about Hogan and Bischoff's time there. They really fukked it up.

Didn't they have more than 10k for one or two Euro shows?
 

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Money wise and gate wise yes…cross over , not yet. But with endeavor also being a Hollywood talent agency once the strike is over, they have the potential to be the most prolific since the attitude era.
 
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