Are haitians the diaspora that kept closest to their African roots?

[Samori Toure]

There is no difference between Yoruba and Igbo people in study, and very, very little between peoples like the Akan and Yoruba, as noted by study comparing the groups. It may be that researchers are grouping the Akan into the Yoruba group for lack of Akan samples and because the Akan and like show up so similarly in study. Science does not find diversity between these peoples on Africa. Their dominant Y haplogroups, for example, are both the same. So you could be right and the study method is just amalgamating Negroes. Bit then that just proves baseblack gene pool in the dispora are not different at all, which is against what some users here have argued.

In general studies have found countries' neighbors in the old world are most related to each other.

Ancestry.com does not agree with you. They have been able to breakout 10 specific regions; 6 of which they unveiled in their updated testing in 2013. The updated regions were:

Senegal
Mali
Ivory Coast/Ghana
Benin/Togo
Nigeria
Cameroon/Congo

"The AncestryDNA science team presented the results of their latest research today at the Smithsonian Institute’s symposium on The African Diaspora in Washington D.C. Using unique proprietary DNA samples and a variety of statistical approaches, our science team has been able to separate West Africa into six separate population groups based on genetic data. This advancement will provide a finer-resolution genetic ethnicity estimate for individuals with West African ancestry.

AncestryDNA’s six new ethnicity regions of West Africa include Senegal, Mali, Ivory Coast/Ghana, Benin/Togo, Nigeria, and Cameroon/Congo, each of which has a distinct set of tribal affiliations. The division of West Africa into these groups marks the first time that West African genetic ethnicity estimates can achieve this level of detail, bringing AncestryDNA’s total number of reported genetic ethnicity regions in Africa to ten... ."

AncestryDNA Makes Scientific Breakthrough in West African Ethnicity - Tech Roots

Edit: Notice how Nigeria is not lumped with Ivory Coast/Ghana. So there are clearly different genetic markers for the ethnic groups in those regions. At least 25% of Ivory Coast and Ghana are Mande and over 40% are Akan people.

Here are my genetic estimates from Ancestry.Com.

Africa 86%

• Cameroon/Congo 38%
• Ivory Coast/Ghana 32%
• Nigeria 7%
• Benin/Togo 3%
• Mali 2%
• Senegal 2%
• Africa North 1%
• Africa South-Central Hunter-Gatherers< 1%

Here is some scholarly information that shows where African Americans originated in African slave ports and where they were landed in the USA (Note the Bight of Biafra was a spot of embarkation for the Igbo of Nigeria and the Tikar people (Bamilke and Bamoun) of Cameroon. Clearly the USA took most of their slaves from Senegambia and the Congo, which what AA's already knew.:

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You have so called intellectuals and students of African geneaoligy dapping and co-signing posts that factually proclaim "vodou is Yoruba".

Thread is full of clowns.

Haitain Vodou is primarily Fon/Ewe in its african base but it does have Yoruba influences.

Haitian Vodou[1][2][3] (/ˈvoʊ.duː/, French: [vodu], also written as Vaudou;[4][5] /ˈvoʊ.duː/ Vodun[6][7] or Vodoun[6][8] /ˈvoʊ.duːn/; and commonly Voodoo /ˈvuː.duː/) is a syncretic[9] religion practiced chiefly in Haiti and the Haitian diaspora. Practitioners are called "vodouists" (French: vodouisants [voduisɑ̃]) or "servants of the spirits" (Haitian Creole: sèvitè).[10]

Vodouists believe in a distant and unknowable Supreme Creator, Bondye (derived from the French term Bon Dieu, meaning "good God"). According to Vodouists, Bondye does not intercede in human affairs, and thus they direct their worship toward spirits subservient to Bondye, called loa.[11] Every loa is responsible for a particular aspect of life, with the dynamic and changing personalities of each loa reflecting the many possibilities inherent to the aspects of life over which they preside.[12] In order to navigate daily life, vodouists cultivate personal relationships with the loa through the presentation of offerings, the creation of personal altars and devotional objects, and participation in elaborate ceremonies of music, dance, and spirit possession.[13]

Vodou originated in the Caribbean and developed in the French Empire in the 18th century among West African slaves when African religious practice was actively suppressed, and enslaved Africans were forced to convert to Christianity.[14][15] Religious practices of contemporary Vodou are descended from, and closely related to, West African Vodun as practiced by the Fon and Ewe. Vodou also incorporates elements and symbolism from other African peoples including the Yoruba and Kongo; as well as Taíno religious beliefs, Roman Catholicism, and European spirituality including mysticism, Freemasonry, and other influences.[16]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

And its funny because a lot of things considered "West African" can be traced to one country and thus spread via cultural exchange/trade i.e. jollof rice from Senegal. Its not like Africans intrinsically developed the few superficial similarities independently but because of trade and contact

And when talking about African culture its like the urban centers and modern times don't exist. There is more cultural exchange going on between African Americans and Africans than there are with any of the Islands (who also are heavily influenced by us "Yankees" anyways). This is why I say its more of a rural vs urban, global south vs western thing because people are associating traditional, rural lifestyles as something exclusively African or Black. Even the tribes they associate with okra, voodoo, and chanting have evolved culturally.

I said before that alot of contemporary things people think are true or authentic African culture are continental African takes or flips on new world black concepts/culture.

 

[KOohbt]

All that good info in the root and you still got dumb asses starting threads in here full of miss info that brehs gotta come in and clean up.

@IllmaticDelta always come thru and shut shyt down

 

[IllmaticDelta]

A lot of people think of African culture as simply drumming and chanting, dancing and voodoo.

and that's the reason why noone instantly associates this kind of stuff with "African" culture

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Haitain Vodou is primarily Fon/Ewe in it's african base but it does have Yoruba influences.

You think posting the same thing over and over makes it fact.

Does that make voodou based off Yoruba, then? No.

Voodou also came from French cacs by your logic.

You dapped a post that said it was Yoruba and Roman Catholicism. @Thomas .

 

[Poitier]

Haitain Vodou is primarily Fon/Ewe in it's african base but it does have Yoruba influences.

Stop trying to reason with that dummy

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You can stop using that service right there. The 3 major groups that African Americans are going to be descended from are the Mande people; Kongo people and Akan people. There were some Fulani captured with the Mande people and there were Igbo people captured; but not in the same numbers as the Mande, Kongo and Akan people.

One of the interesting thing that I have learned about Nigerian DNA is that every time that I see an African American with Yoruban DNA; I almost instinctively think that that AA has ancestry from the Caribbean or South America; because that is where most of the Yoruban slaves were taken.

yoruba influences in Afram's is a Golf Coast kinda thing..

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Only one other person mentioned the Gullah/Geechie? Damn.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You think posting the same thing over and over makes it fact.

I guided you to sources...if you don't believe them, it's not my problem

Does that make voodou based off Yoruba, then? No.

Vodou is in part, based and influenced in Yoruba practices

Voodou is also from French cacs by your logic.

It's influenced by Catholicism with a pred African base

You dapped a post that said it was Yoruba and Roman Catholicism. @Thomas .

I dapped the general idea but I explained in detail before his post that it was a more complex mix of things

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Voodou also has Kongo and a dozen other African influences brought in by slaves with different lineages.

But you wouldn't say "voodou is literally Kongo and French Christianity".


It's founded in the beliefs of the Fon and Ewe people.

It's not Yoruba.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

You think posting the same thing over and over makes it fact.

Does that make voodou based off Yoruba, then? No.

Voodou also came from French cacs by your logic.

You dapped a post that said it was Yoruba and Roman Catholicism. @Thomas .

because there are yoruba/fon/ewe elements. It just depends on who "puts you on"...and where their forefolks came from.

 

[Concerning VIolence]

I dapped the general idea

His general idea was a blanket statement of assumed fact that Voodou was primarily Yoruba.

And you "intellectuals" dapped it.

 

[Samori Toure]

Only one other person mentioned the Gullah/Geechie? Damn.

They are actually part of the Mande people.

Some sources actually link them to Angola, which would make them part of the Kingdom of Kongo.

 

[Poitier]

You can't hide your stupidity behind Frantz Fanon, James Baldwin and Audre Lorde quotes like some stereotypical sjw tumblr hoe especially when you claim to be a man


Dude been all up in this thread letting the coli know he a dummy