Are Africans and people of African descent who aren't AA black?

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Haitians and Jamaicans weren't slaves?

Not in no America

 

[Prynce]

Not in no America

 

[DarrynCobretti]

You are mixed. Your parents are from two different ethnic groups, they married and then they made you. Bye.

Depending on the context.

@Prynce is mixed ethnically but not mixed raced, because he's a product of two black ethnic groups(Somali and AA) he still = black.

The same way a kid born of two different white ethnic groups like (Irish and French) still = white.

 

[Mojo Jojo Morpheus]

nikkas splitting hairs so fine they should join the air force with that kind of precision.

 

[Hoodoo Child]

Agreed but I know some confused Euro dudes from the Coliseum that believe nationality trumps your ethnicity.


My Soccer/Football brehs, why are there so many French-born/foreign-born African players?


"French-born Africans are FREEEENCH!"

And you wanna know whats scary? There are over 320 Million + people in this country and a good 90% can't tell the difference between Race,Ethnicity and Nationality.

 

[Malta]

There's cultural/ethnic differences but I've traveled enough in my life to see we're all the same family with different branches. I personally don't want division, in a perfect world we'd all fall under the same umbrella but that ain't happening because of language/tribal/ethnic etc reasons. That said, whenever I traveled I always felt most at home around other black people, didn't matter if they spoke Spanish, Xhosa, Portuguese etc I wouldn't feel that way if they weren't black.


It's like going to different parts of the US and visiting different parts of the city (black areas), there's some regional differences, but you always feel the most comfortable and at home around your own even if they listening to some weird ass shyt or have a thick accent.

 

[BocaRear]

This is actually a very legitimate discussion

I guess "Black" has a single meaning (phenotypical) but the term is interpreted in various different ways by different cultures within what would be described as black people.

I think groups such as AAs and those from the Caribbean more readily embrace the term of "black" due to the fact that they are unaware of their exact tribal heritage.
In contrast, Africans don't typically describe themselves as "black" but rather refer to their tribes as a source of similar pride.

Basically, the same way that AAs/Caribbeans feel pride in regards to the word "black", Africans feel pride in their tribal heritage. The term Black for AAs symbolises a common tribal identity and fosters a solidarity amongst other victims of the transatlantic slave trade; so in that regard I can see why some AAs/Caribbeans believe they have a monopoly on the term.

However, I believe we're also starting to see westernised Africans embrace a "black pride" as a result of the pressures of global white supremacy too

 

[Karb]

That's basically what I said last night. It was pure arrogance and superiority. And then I was called a tragic mulatto because I chose the middle line

Mutt

 

[Hoodoo Child]

And another thing. Black immigrants (Or any foreign black person really) who come over here and assimilate to African American culture,have huge advantages. They can speak english and can revert back to speaking their native language. We as African Americans can't do that. They also have a tendency to critique AA culture when things get too hot,but piggyback on it at the same time when things get juicy. Farrakhan and his folks are of Caribbean descent,yet if you listen to him,he sounds like a southern preacher from Atlanta or Memphis lol Who gave him the authority to speak on African American issues?

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

Last night in discord we were having a discussion about what is blackness and if the term black is uniquely African American. A few poster's took the stance that the term black is solely in reference to AA's and that only AA's were black. Also stated that AA's were uniquely affected by white supremacy unlike any other group on this planet including other people of African descent. No matter if they descended from slaves or not. That AA's culture was co-opted by everybody else on the planet (which I agree with but I feel there is some cultural exchange between the diaspora). That Africans and other blacks of the diaspora have a privilege that AA's do not have in this country and in the world. Also stated that Africans can choose whether or not racism can affect them because they can choose to say they are not and identify with their country of origin and that white people treat immigrant blacks better off GP. Also that Africans are c00ns because they turn their backs on AA's in the presence of white people.

While me and Ness or black bieber took up that stance that All people of African descent are black. Also that white supremacy is a global tool used to keep all black people oppressed and not just AA's. That it is intellectually dishonest to say only AA's are black when the term black itself is 1000's of years old. And Americans just don't get the right to decide what is black or not.

I was even called a tragic mulatto because I'm half AA and somali
Even tho I rep AA gang heavily
And that I was mixed because my father wasn't black because he isn't AA.
Basically compared me to a person with a white parent.

So brehs I decided to let the coli decide who is black in 2017. Is it only AA's or is it the entire diaspora.

@Daniel Day Lewis @Kaguya @gragra @KaliOshun @ModestMo we're involved in the disscussion and can correct me if I explained their stance incorrectly. Cause I want this to be a intelligent disccusiion and not based in misinformation.

I also would like to invite @Malta @Poitier @BocaRear @Diasporan Royalty into this conversation because you brehs are knowledgeable about AA history and African history on a global level.

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[TheHonorableOmarSharif]

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Why did they start calling us "African American"?​

There's a reason.

 

[grazazaza]

And another thing. Black immigrants (Or any foreign black person really) who come over here and assimilate to African American culture,have huge advantages. They can speak english and can revert to speaking back to their native language. We as African Americans can't do that. They also have a tendency to critique AA culture when things get too hot,but piggyback on it at the same time when things get juicy. Farrakhan and his folks are of Caribbean descent,yet if you listen to him,he sounds like a southern preacher from Atlanta or Memphis lol Who gave him the authority to speak on African American issues?

You speakin' facts and you prolly gon get negged for this but who gives af

 

[Hoodoo Child]

@IllmaticDelta I know you got some jewels for us,brotha.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

There's a reason.

Yes sir​

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[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Racially...We are all in one category.
Ethnicity? #AAGANG made black a "hot song"