joeychizzle
光復香港，時代革命
The underwater hand to hand combat was much better than expected. It felt real
Aquaman (OFFICIAL THREAD) #WanBillion !!! $1.148 Billi !!!
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What makes this even more impressive is that it didn't have the luxury of being part of a huge brand with tons of goodwill like the MCU
I mean look at this shyt:
Thor 1 opening weekend: 65m
Aquaman opening weeknd: 67m
Aquaman had like no buzz and will make north of 1.1B
Imagine when this manages to outgross Captain America CW
SadimirPutin
Superstar
What makes this even more impressive is that it didn't have the luxury of being part of a huge brand with tons of goodwill like the MCU
I mean look at this shyt:
Thor 1 opening weekend: 65m
Aquaman opening weeknd: 67m
Aquaman had like no buzz and will make north of 1.1B
It shows that people can get past the quite blatant, shameless and transparent anti DCEU bias that goes on in the critic community
People will overlook all the flaws in MCU films and gasp and call everything Marvel puts out cinematic treats or masterpieces but will incessantly nitpick DC films
As if somehow the Marvel template is the only way to make superhero films
Devilinurear
Veteran
fukking aquaman made a billion.
*slow claps
*slow claps
Kinda makes you think Suicide Squad could have gotten to $1 billion if it opened in China and India.
Still FloW
Gawd Of Shinobi
FACTS !!
The Squad did damn near 800mil without China like wtf... would've loved to see critics heads explode if that happened the way they railed that movie.. would be funny AS fukk
but im legit happy Aquaman is the first DCEU Billy, because he had a LOT on his shoulders, the CONSTANT negativity, the DCEU Bias, the critics and bloggers posting stories non stop about how it'll flop, the fact it came off the lackluster Hack whedon League, it was bittersweet and amazing the one film damn near everyone not DC was rotting against became the biggest thing ever..
AMAZING !!
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SadimirPutin
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People talk about DCEU is failing but the numbers(i.e the real metric of how motherfukkers feel) tell a different story
This. People want it to be one way but it's another.
BvS and Justice League are the biggest black marks on the franchise thus far. BvS had a great opening weekend then dropped like a rock because word of mouth was so toxic. It made money and has its fans, but it was definitely a compromised success. It being as bad as it was led directly into Justice League which audiences simply did not want to see and the studio had zero faith in. It bombed.
Putting those two to the side, let's look at the other DCEU films:
Man of Steel: Made a decent amount of money and had a mixed reception that's actually improved over time. Only considered a disappointment because it's a Superman movie, and WB probably expected more from it.
Suicide Squad: Critical reception was terrible, but that didn't stop it from raking in 746.8 million without China. It's legs were great, so clearly WoM was strong as well. Much like Man of Steel, the nerd/superhero movie community would have you think it was reviled and hated everywhere, and only made money cause of marketing, but the math don't add up. The movie had an audience that enjoyed it.
Wonder Woman: Despite the weird movement from some to retroactively paint this movie as bad, it had an incredible critical reception, audiences loved it, and did 821.8 million worldwide. An unmitgated success and Wonder Woman 1984 has a real chance at doing a billion itself when it comes out.
So we got three movies that audiences connected with and two they hated/didn't care about. Yet, people thought audiences somehow despised the DCEU and wouldn't show up for Aquaman?
The problem with talking about the DCEU is that people don't want to look outside their own opinions on the films and look at the big picture. The DC name was no where near being a toxic brand after Justice League; people only thought so because they personally didn't like Justice League. Suicide Squad and Man of Steel were never failures financially or even with audiences. Mixed opinions, sure, but those movies had their fans. And Wonder Woman? Well, that's a special case. People often omit Wonder Woman because it doesn't fit their narratives, or they start throwing around the word "overrated" (aka "everyone who loved this movie is wrong and shouldn't love this movie cause I say so").
Has the DCEU had the wild success the MCU has enjoyed? No, but it hasn't been all bad either. Like I said earlier, compromised success. WB is working to get better critical reception because they do care about the overall quality of their films. They know the kind of success BvS had is unsustainable, and Justice League showed that. That said, the only way you could paint it as "everyone hates all these movies" is if you lock yourself purely in the nerd blogsphere where 90% of all DC films related articles are either negative or some fantasy booking wherein the writer tries to "fix" things. You gotta look at the whole picture, and sometimes that means accepting that other people will like things you dislike.
Still FloW
Gawd Of Shinobi
Still FloW
Gawd Of Shinobi
Wan said fukk joss whedon and went behind wb backs to call the GAWD Zack up to fix the bullshyt whedon did
https://lrmonline.com/news/how-zack-snyder-helped-james-wan-with-aquaman/
https://lrmonline.com/news/how-zack-snyder-helped-james-wan-with-aquaman/
Atsym Sknyfs
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AQUAMAN Director James Wan Reportedly Worked With Zack Snyder To Undo Joss Whedon's JUSTICE LEAGUE Changes
It sounds like Zack Snyder had a bigger role in Aquaman than initially suspected as a new report claims that the filmmaker assisted in making sure Arthur Curry was portrayed in a very specific way...
When Joss Whedon took charge of Justice League, he didn't just helm the reshoots: he completely changed the movie from what it was originally going to be. That meant certain characters were portrayed in very different ways and it sounds like Jason Momoa's Arthur Curry was among them.
Actor Neil Daly, who reportedly oversaw test screenings for Justice League and Aquaman, has claimed in a new podcast that Snyder helped Wan distance the King of Atlantis from the version we saw in the superhero ensemble who had reimagined by Whedon.
"We could have gotten a whole movie about Aquaman basically fawning over Mera the whole time and making all kinds of dirty jokes and things like that and they really had to get away from that, which is all what Whedon had done, so Snyder had a little bit of an influence on Aquaman. James Wan was showing Zack Snyder - against the studio's wishes - cuts of the movie and early test screenings and storyboards to make sure that they're on the same page with what he originally wanted and Snyder gave his blessing of approval, bringing it back to what he wanted all along."
There are some bold claims there and it's pretty amazing to think that Wan brought in Snyder to get some ideas on his original plans for Aquaman because he didn't like what Whedon had done.
Justice League wasn't the worst superhero movie of the modern era but Whedon's changes stuck out like a sore thumb and really didn't work as well as he or Warner Bros. probably imagined. However, with no "Snyder Cut" on the horizon, it seems we'll never know the full extent of Snyder's plans.
It sounds like Zack Snyder had a bigger role in Aquaman than initially suspected as a new report claims that the filmmaker assisted in making sure Arthur Curry was portrayed in a very specific way...
When Joss Whedon took charge of Justice League, he didn't just helm the reshoots: he completely changed the movie from what it was originally going to be. That meant certain characters were portrayed in very different ways and it sounds like Jason Momoa's Arthur Curry was among them.
Actor Neil Daly, who reportedly oversaw test screenings for Justice League and Aquaman, has claimed in a new podcast that Snyder helped Wan distance the King of Atlantis from the version we saw in the superhero ensemble who had reimagined by Whedon.
"We could have gotten a whole movie about Aquaman basically fawning over Mera the whole time and making all kinds of dirty jokes and things like that and they really had to get away from that, which is all what Whedon had done, so Snyder had a little bit of an influence on Aquaman. James Wan was showing Zack Snyder - against the studio's wishes - cuts of the movie and early test screenings and storyboards to make sure that they're on the same page with what he originally wanted and Snyder gave his blessing of approval, bringing it back to what he wanted all along."
There are some bold claims there and it's pretty amazing to think that Wan brought in Snyder to get some ideas on his original plans for Aquaman because he didn't like what Whedon had done.
Justice League wasn't the worst superhero movie of the modern era but Whedon's changes stuck out like a sore thumb and really didn't work as well as he or Warner Bros. probably imagined. However, with no "Snyder Cut" on the horizon, it seems we'll never know the full extent of Snyder's plans.
What matters more, numbers or quality?
Ask Paramount because every Transformer movie before Bumblebee got savaged by critics but made bank. Bumblebee was a critical hit but it is underperforming every other Transformers movie that came before it.
