Apple finally facing the music and getting toss to the bushes

[winb83]

Apple doesn't have R&D from another division to help and nobody is forward thinking enough to figure out what's next.

That's the problem. Nothing is next. Cell phones have peaked. There's nothing they can really add to them anymore. The real problem is the types of activities people do on cell phones don't really require anything more powerful than an iPhone 6S. It's like they keep making more advanced phones but people don't really need them to browse Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube or snap a few pics or listen to Spotify.

I said it in another thread and was scoffed at but it's a wrap for cell phones. Especially now that they aren't subsidized by the carriers. Apple will have to transition to something else.
Official Apple 9/12/18 Event Thread | iPhone XS, XS Max, XR, Apple Watch Series 4, iOS 12 & Mac OS

Apple is in some respects a dinosaur. The way they ran that smartphone side of the business worked with there was growth in the area but as time goes on smartphones have matured to the point that if you bought one 2 years ago you can probably keep it 3-4 years before actually needing to upgrade and if you but a used one from a year ago or so it's good enough.

From there the Chinese manufactures step in and make cheap lower end phones and mid range phones that are more than adequate.
Apple finds themselves raising their prices on their customer base that will continue to shrink as a result of the maturation of the market and the raised prices.

At some point and it might not be right now but something has to give or a death spiral is entered like what Cable TV faces. Apple is doing well now, maybe they transition away from smartphones leading the charge and something else becomes their bread and butter.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I was iPhone gang from the 3g to the 5s and then I jumped to android.

Seeing apple sell stuff as new which have been on other phones for years has me .

Unless your heavily locked into the eco system there is literally no benefits to an apple phone in 2019

What’s the benefits of having a droid?

 

[Family Lives Matter]

What’s the benefits of having a droid?

I can choose between 50 phones

 

[CrimsonTider]

I can choose between 50 phones

 

[Family Lives Matter]

What's your counter argument?

 

[Shang Tsung]

They're still going to sell like hotcakes in the west

 

[You Win Perfect]

what phones are poppin or popular are the least of my worries. i've purchased almost every brand based on my own personal curiousity.
i don't get why people care about which company is cool or not unless you own stock in it, otherwise you have no stake in the game.
currently i have a XS Max
its like people form some personal vendetta against a company for really no reason other than i guess boredom.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Hopefully this forces them to push Cook out and get back in the game of innovation. I'm generations back now and I'm still not impressed enough to do a full price upgrade.

Yeah well ah that’s gonna be hard to do with Steve Jobs gone.

He kinda invented Apple

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

That's the problem. Nothing is next. Cell phones have peaked. There's nothing they can really add to them anymore. The real problem is the types of activities people do on cell phones don't really require anything more powerful than an iPhone 6S. It's like they keep making more advanced phones but people don't really need them to browse Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube or snap a few pics or listen to Spotify.

I said it in another thread and was scoffed at but it's a wrap for cell phones. Especially now that they aren't subsidized by the carriers. Apple will have to transition to something else.
Official Apple 9/12/18 Event Thread | iPhone XS, XS Max, XR, Apple Watch Series 4, iOS 12 & Mac OS

Fundamentally I agree but there's still some innovation to be done in cell phones. Which phone was it that scrolled the text with your eyes? That seemed like a cool feature that never caught on. If Apple could implement that feature in a new phone and improve it, it would be great. Cuz right now I have situations like... when I'm in bed and my girl is laying on me and I have my phone in one hand... it would be nice to scroll and not have to bring my other hand over.

But yes, cell phones satisfied our basic needs years ago. Same with laptops. I'm still on a MacBook Air from 2014. It runs everything I need. Why would I upgrade?

 

[Kings County]

bout time now just for america so i can cop my x

 

[O.G.B]

Oh and Samsung is about to go through the same thing once the S10 is out. Apple knew after the iPhone X they're finished moving hardware just because "it's the new iPhone". Samsung's had years of hype built up for their 10th anniversary just like Apple. And like Apple, every Samsung phone coming out after will have lower sales.

Difference between the two companies is Samsung stands a better chance of recovering since whatever leap is next for the telephone is either coming from them or Huawai, they showed you a glimpse of the future with the TV at CES. A few more years to let the tech mature and more affordable on a mass level and they'll figure out something.

Apple doesn't have R&D from another division to help and nobody is forward thinking enough to figure out what's next.

This is completely inaccurate! Unlike Apple, Samsung's future Galaxy S lineup is bound to have unique & innovative features that will keep it atop the premium smart phone market for years to come. Samsung has the technological prowess & manufacturing capability as a full fledged electronics giant that the majority of smart phone brands don't.

 

[winb83]

This is completely inaccurate! Unlike Apple, Samsung's future Galaxy S lineup is bound to have unique & innovative features that will keep it atop the premium smart phone market for years to come. Samsung has the technological prowess & manufacturing capability as a full fledged electronics giant that the majority of smart phone brands don't.

Samsung's sales were down 2 years in a row last I knew. They're considering canceling the Note line too.

 

[GPBear]

If only they paid their fukking taxes. $71 Billion in unpaid taxes hidden in offshore accounts. Had to pay 15 bil in back taxes to Ireland recently.

Our country lets corporations exploit the fukk out of them, overcharge for products and pay nothing in taxes - yet the Supreme Court tries telling me that "corporations are people"

This country purposefully flushed its opportunities down the toilet. Since it realized there will be a demographic shift, it's spent all its time trying to siphon the wealth into the hands of a few white capitalists before it gets redistributed.

 

[Kaydigi]

That base model Mac mini pricing is gross.

 

[Diondon]

We need that Ironman holograph phone FRFR