AOC... what’s the deal

[SleezyBigSlim]

I'd smash but never vote for her. She showed her true colors and will prioritize Hispanics and will attach them to any potential reparations study bill the dems even pretend to pass. ADOS voting for her is voting against our own self interest. Only ADOS politicians and young white dems that are not Antifa will give us what we want. Dont vote for any Mexican or Hispanic ever.

 

[EndDomination]

MW does drop the amount of people being picked up for those jobs - from the pool that has the least "qualifications" to offer. You are not picking out of 1 pool of candidates, you're picking out of several. It's a simple exercise - place yourself in the shoes of the business owner. If your labor costs go up, you pick from the cheapest people with the most value. You don't hire out people that are young and joining the work force as much as you would before, or older people, or people with handicaps because they cost you more. This is part of the stupidity going on with college degrees and why it is more difficult to get a job without one. Minimum wage going up when the value of the job does not move in tandem results in poorer people getting locked out of the potential hiring pool.

The MW experiments are just that - experiments. It STILL does not solve the core issue which is the government is setting the price of labor independent of the value of the job. And BASIC ECONOMICS shows that when you set a price floor you increase the amount of people willing to go for that job. Hence once again - the people that would be picked normally are going against a larger pool of people that are also more qualified. This doesn't solve the poverty problem and it doesn't address why some people can't qualify for jobs. It is literally just moving the goal post to appease people thinking they will earn more money without acknowledging the fact that not only have you ignored the core problem, but you've brought more competition into their lives.

Nationalized healthcare in the US cannot happen until Congress stops talking out of both sides of their neck. You cannot nationalize healthcare without breaking up HMO and Pharma holds on the country. Before even getting there you would probably be better of trying to create a free market healthcare system, which the US does not have. Even worse is if you somehow got that far, no other country would really want that - as their medical costs would skyrocket once the government becomes the only buyer for medical services and can effectively bully Pharma for discounts like other countries do. Many of those health care systems are already struggling, Canada being the prime target with some of their provinces showing budget issues managing costs. They already get heavily discounted medical prices due to US citizens subsidizing the costs. A national healthcare system in America means that no longer happens for them or any other country and their systems would be toast.

My understanding of economics is far better than hers. Especially since I don't just sit around coming up with crazy ideas and actually put my money to work instead of sitting around pretending that it's all a neat puzzle that is easy to solve by giving people more money. Plenty of civilizations have tried it over thousands of years and it has never solved the poverty issue.

You wrote an incredibly long post to point out that you don't understand anything about economics outside of a rudimentary grasp of "supply and demand."

And again, the progressive wing of the state and national DNC have articulated an end to the medical-industrial complex's profit motivation, as well as "Big Pharma" control over drug prices - and have done so for years.

The Curse of Econ 101

The real minimum wage | FRED Blog

https://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf

The third link was a paper written by Alan Krueger - former Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury showing a much more nuanced understanding of the relationship between minimum wage and unemployment.

Your last point is also bizarre and wrong - giving people money works and has worked for centuries - I don't think anyone can really dispute that point.

 

[LV Koopa]

You wrote an incredibly long post to point out that you don't understand anything about economics outside of a rudimentary grasp of "supply and demand."

And again, the progressive wing of the state and national DNC have articulated an end to the medical-industrial complex's profit motivation, as well as "Big Pharma" control over drug prices - and have done so for years.

The Curse of Econ 101

The real minimum wage | FRED Blog

https://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers/njmin-aer.pdf

The third link was a paper written by Alan Krueger - former Assistant to the Secretary of the Treasury showing a much more nuanced understanding of the relationship between minimum wage and unemployment.

Your last point is also bizarre and wrong - giving people money works and has worked for centuries - I don't think anyone can really dispute that point.

Ok so you can't reply to anything in depth. Thanks for the links bruh, I'll use my real world experience and financial ability instead of taking more economics courses - all of which I've gotten As in. Instead of using your brain and breaking down my arguments you post links. I don't think you actually know anything and are just spouting other people's point of view.

Have a good one.

 

[King]

Shes a brilliant replacement for Bernie Sanders and charismatic

But the racist ass US isnt ready for her. She could post up as NY Govenor though

It may take 2 more election cycles before she can enter something like the Senate or even talk of Presidential run.

AOC as governor of NY

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

I'm not sure what the issue is. While reparations for African-Americans both for chattel slavery as well as for the apartheid state and post-segregation discrimination are the absolute primary focuses for me, and many others - it certainly doesn't represent the end-all.

The US government should pay for the entirety of its crimes against its citizenry. They're two different "discussions" - but I don't recall seeing any mention of PR or Chicanos in the actual legislation being pushed from HB 40 or any others - so this is a non-factor.

Doesn't take away from her being one of the best politicians on the national stage.

Perhaps you should take a look into the Squad's BREATHE Act. While it is obviously inspired by the cries of Eric Garner and George Floyd, the act calls for the passing of HR40(just to STUDY reparations for African Americans for slavery), yet calls for outright reparations for pretty much every other "oppressed" group, including PROSTITUTES.

https://breatheact.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/The-BREATHE-Act-PDF_FINAL3-1.pdf

 

[tuckgod]

Already knew nikkas would go full-retard in this thread:
@jerzboy
She's a Democratic-Socialist; her politics represent what is considering the center-Left in most countries outside of the US. Fantastic on environmental issues, energy issues, labor issues, racial issues, carceralism and imperialism, etc.

Definitely one of the best in national politics.

AOC has objectified herself? No, she hasn't. Nor is she more far Left than Bernie, she's give or take similar to FDR in a lot of policy positions, save for a far more nuanced understanding of systemic issues.

What exactly does this mean? She's been pushing for policies that explicitly help Black people since she came into office.

Shoehorn Latinox into the reparations discussion?

I definitely had to google carceralism

 

[Max.]

Not gonna lie posts like these are exactly what women are referring to when they talk about men objectifying women. A nikka made a thread asking about AOC policies and your thirsty ass came in here talking about titties.

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[Godless Socialist CEO]

Keeping Amazon out of queens was a win
Theyre a parasite and she low key saved her constituents. But her green new deal is a bad idea. She should have next thats why Republicans are slandering her every chance they gets

How is a massive jobs and infrastructure program in a country that needs *checks notes* a large jobs and infrastructure program a bad idea?

 

[Wiseborn]

She has a wonderful set of t*ts. She needs an onlyfans.

She also has a MR. ED style choppers, shorty will eat your food, Wilbur.

 

[O.Red]

All of the squad won easily. I think the socialist/progressive politicians can't win thing is overstated. Certainly in FL it's probably toxic but Democrats need to stop the republican lite moderate leaning bullshyt and embrace the future of the party

It's not overstated

Nikkas always neglect the fact that there are 50 other states

This same reasoning is what made nikkas believe that Texas was blue last night only for the non major cities votes to come in and turn it right back red

When you consider the macro it's not overstated at all

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Hopefully, a modern FDR wouldn't throw Black people under the bus with his version of the New Deal



Ask and you shall receive, fellow atheist.



Here's a timestamped video of Ta-Nahisi Coates interviewing her at an MLK Day event. He introduces the topic. Despite taking about how we shouldn't ignore/erase the history of other groups, she tries to brush aside slavery and talks about how reparations should be for "African Americans, Mexican Americans, Puerto Rican Americans" who were victims of redlining and New Deal restrictions. Coates DOES NOT check on it, either.



Bonus content: AOC juelzing about Blackness

You’re not gonna like my answer, she’s not wrong. She also provided no numbers on how those reparations should be applied. Everyone forgets Latin wealth in America is also heading towards zero. Remember her beliefs include raising all ships. I think you guys get wayyyyy to defensive any time someone isn’t talking specifically to black Americans.

If anything it shows consistency in her beliefs which is rare in most politicians.

 

[O.Red]

Why would Latinos be included in reparations??

Ask her

 

[50CentStan]

How is a massive jobs and infrastructure program in a country that needs *checks notes* a large jobs and infrastructure program a bad idea?

A corporation like Amazon is not what any area needs. Taking advantage of special tax breaks, giving low paying jobs and displacing people who have been living in the area by driving real estate up artificially is never good. Like I said they're a parasite. Obviously her political enemies try to play the oh she lost those jobs bs. Its deeper than that. They lost the Amazon 2nd office because they didn't budge on their abusive demands. Most politicians would of did whatever Amazon wanted and lined their pockets. AOC proved herself during that whole thing.

 

[ogc163]

She is someone who has great rhetoric skills but many of her supporters overrate her potential ceiling. I don't think she can win on a bigger scale.

 

[Edub]

She has a wonderful set of t*ts. She needs an onlyfans.