Anyone Seen Django?

[Rapmastermind]

Lincoln movie was pure

My biggest beef with "Lincoln" was Steven didn't show how Fredrick Douglas did put pressure on him about Slavery. That could of been powerful if he had showed it. But outside of that it didn't make Lincoln to be some God that ended Slavery. It showed how he was willing and dealing to get people to understand that point of view being wrong. Basically Lincoln had to lie to get the 13th Amendment passed cause America was still very racist during that time.

Regardless of what happen back then, he got it done and today this Black Man can freely talk about Django and type on a computer. The Struggle was far from over obviously after what Lincoln did and remember he was murdered most because he freed Blacks so in the end, say what you will Lincoln ended up dying for Blacks. It was a powerful moment in America History as again many Americans wanted Slavery to continue. The movie grounds Slavery in more realism cause of the politics of the situation. I actually thought it was very cool watching "Django" then "Lincoln" this week cause it gave me as a Black Man two interesting perspectives on Slavery.

 

[OmegaK2099]

 

[Rapmastermind]

Every President has blood on their hands. You know how many people died during the Civil War? Nobody is saying Lincoln was a God but the man did end up getting one of the most important pieces of legislation in history of America passed and added to our constitution. Which before stated that Blacks weren't even a full human beings.

Ending Slavery was huge and he paid the price with his life for it. It's funny looking at the Map of this past Presidential Election. Most of the States that voted against Barack were Slave States during Lincoln's time. Anyways a lot of Whites Let Lincoln know he was wrong to try and end Slavery. Look at this political poster back in the day:

 

[e G o Maniac]

Django was a good ass movie. I feel like Tarantino didn't even want the film to be about politics as much as people re making it out to be. To me, he just wanted to make a nice revenge flick that had the right amount of action, story and setting. Just so happens that the setting involved one of the most controversial times in the history of mankind.

 

[HendriX]

Man that Kerry whipping/running away scene still haunts me..that shiit was too emotional brehs.

cats talmabout meagan good.. :biggiehuh: kerry killed that role

 

[Gravity]

I know that you may be talking about something completely different at this point in the thread.

However, in regards to the ridiculous argument that's been going on for a few pages, I only have one thing to say.

Django Unchained...


...is a Western...


...about slavery.

Slavery is not just a side point like the Civil War in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. It is the focal point of the entire film.

It's a Western about slavery just as Roots is a drama about slavery. Yes, it's a Western just like The Proposition was a Western even though its set in Australia.

So much stupidity on both sides of this argument it's baffling.

The Proposition is an Australian Western which is a sub-genre. There's really no getting around the fact that Westerns portray stories that are set in the west. That's the reason that they are called "Westerns" in the 1st place. If the location of the stories didn't matter then they wouldn't be called westerns. Is Last of the Mohicans classified as a western? I don't know if its classified as such. You're right about that not being here not there though. Even if you classified Django as a western, it would still be a western movie about slavery. There are a lot of different elements in the film, and a lot of ways that it could be classified. Regardless of what genre you choose to place it in, it's still a movie that is about slavery. It's my fault for letting those posters cloud the issue.

It's been really ridiculous that dudes have been really saying this movie wasn't about Slavery and that Slavery was just "A Backdrop". It's like they are scared to admit the truth of the matter. It's been sad to read dudes really trying to justify that this move wasn't about Slavery when the entire theme of the movie deals with Slavery. As for the Western Debate, it is true that a majority of all Western take place in the Western part of the U.S. thus that's why they got their name. But "Django" did start in Texas and it was done in a style of a Western even though it takes place in the South.

I can agree with this. I didn't even know that the story in Django starts off in Texas, the bootleg copy that I saw didn't start at the very beginning.

You hit it though. Whether you want to call it a western or not, it's still a movie about slavery. The posters that I was going back and forth with were trying to deny that the movie is about slavery. Their argument was "Django is a western, it's not really about slavery" and I let that BS cloud the issue.

 

[Methodical]

I don't know why you and Rapmastermind are pissed off about Django Unchained? Like I said again... I think you guys are looking for the wrong reason cause it wasn't about the slavery movie, it was about the revenge movie.

You should have expected from Quentin Tarantino. He obviously paid a respect/nod to blaxploitation, which he did with this film.

 

[Fillerguy]

come on brehs. If you took slavery out the film, there would be no film. Its the crux of the story. Thats like saying Transformers isnt a Alien invasion movie.

 

[Gravity]

I don't know why you and Rapmastermind are pissed off about Django Unchained? Like I said again... I think you guys are looking for the wrong reason cause it wasn't about the slavery movie, it was about the revenge movie.

You should have expected from Quentin Tarantino. He obviously paid a respect/nod to blaxploitation, which he did with this film.

I'm not pissed off about the movie. I just think that it's a shame that people aren't able to have a honest discussion about the movie. You're right, I knew exactly what to expect before seeing the movie, and I was proven right after seeing it. It's a movie that uses slavery to sell itself. It's not a historical documentary giving a real accurate look at slavery in this country. It's just a movie made to entertain using slavery as the back drop. For whatever reason, people don't want to e honest about that.

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

come on brehs. If you took slavery out the film, there would be no film. Its the crux of the story. Thats like saying Transformers isnt a Alien invasion movie.

there seems to a obvious miscommunication. i can't speak for methodical but i feel just by following the plot of the movie(former slave looking for his wife) and qt movies in general it's hard to find the slavery in django offensive. if the movie was set 2 years after the civil war it still would be about a former slave looking for his wife at her known last place, which is why i was using the term setting and back drop to describe slavery. i don't know why gravity is mad because he is saying the same thing i am saying which is this is a standard qt movie with slavery. i'm not saying the message of the movie isn't about slavery i am saying the movie is a standard qt presents western blaxploitation movie with slavery. me saying it is the background is not me dismissing slavery but saying it is not only the setting of the movie but is also django's back story. once again to clarify when i say this movie isn't about slavery i am talking from a technical standpoint that the plot of this movie is a typical qt movie.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I'm not pissed off about the movie. I just think that it's a shame that people aren't able to have a honest discussion about the movie. You're right, I knew exactly what to expect before seeing the movie, and I was proven right after seeing it. It's a movie that uses slavery to sell itself. It's not a historical documentary giving a real accurate look at slavery in this country. It's just a movie made to entertain using slavery as the back drop. For whatever reason, people don't want to e honest about that.

The movie is what it is. It's an Action packed slave comedy. It sounds ridiculous but there is no getting around that fact. I hope with the success of the movie Hollywood doesn't make this a trend but I fear the worst. I cringed when when watching the kkk scene with them joking about their mask. For the fools who don't know theses idiots are still marching around major cities down south and dragging black men behind pick up trucks a couple years back in Texas. IMO the movie could have been just as entertaining without the comedy.

 

[FlyGuy]

The movie is what it is. It's an Action packed slave comedy. It sounds ridiculous but there is no getting around that fact. I hope with the success of the movie Hollywood doesn't make this a trend but I fear the worst. I cringed when when watching the kkk scene with them joking about their mask. For the fools who don't know theses idiots are still marching around major cities down south and dragging black men behind pick up trucks a couple years back in Texas. IMO the movie could have been just as entertaining without the comedy.

QT don't give a fukk about your feelings

 

[Gravity]

The movie is what it is. It's an Action packed slave comedy. It sounds ridiculous but there is no getting around that fact. I hope with the success of the movie Hollywood doesn't make this a trend but I fear the worst. I cringed when when watching the kkk scene with them joking about their mask. For the fools who don't know theses idiots are still marching around major cities down south and dragging black men behind pick up trucks a couple years back in Texas. IMO the movie could have been just as entertaining without the comedy.

Basically. The scene with the pre-kkk crackers was like a Seinfeld sketch. It was put in the movie to make white people comfortable. It was comic relief to let whites know that the movie wasn't really serious. It humanized the white racist slavers.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

QT don't give a fukk about your feelings

And he doesnt give a fukk about you hangin from his nuts either...

I Watched the dvd screener. That cac aint get my money.

 

[FlyGuy]

And he doesnt give a fukk about you hangin from his nuts either...

I Watched the dvd screener. That cac aint get my money.

oh yeah, I'm hangin