Anyone Seen Django?

[Ronald]

Were Michael K. Williams and RZA in the movie? I didn't see them

 

[gluvnast]

how is this movie comparable to roots? Please explain because if you seen the same trailers I've seen then you would know there is literally no correlation nor comparisons to be made. If this movie is about slavery then I suppose huckleberry Finn is a book about slavery.


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this was kunta kinte's wet dream

 

[The Electric Lady]

Man, that klan scene is mos def scene of the year.

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

That's the point, you can't evolve pass something that's still effecting our People. The biggest issue with Slavery is America just doesn't want to address it, they still want to brush it under the rug cause it happen hundreds of years ago they feel it's over and we should move on. Lincoln freed us and then we had another 100 years of segregation. I was born in 1980 so I'm the 1st post-civil rights generation Black American. My parents grew up in that sh!t, My Grandparents also and my great-grandparents were Slaves.

Same with the Native Americans, America really haven't addressed them either. Jews got reparations, Japanese got reparations. Blacks? Nothing. We actually have Congressmen saying "Get over Slavery". The biggest issue is White America doesn't want to address it. Blacks should NEVER get over or move on from Slavery cause we need to always remember those who gave their lives so we could even sit in a movie theater and watch "Django". It's not weak to "Cling" onto Slavery, it's respect for our ancestors to understand their struggle and sacrifice. To the Jews the saying for the Holocaust is "Never forget". In America for Slavery blacks are always told to "Move On, Get Over It". Not me man, I will never move on, I have to keep those memories and stories in me to keep me grounded of my reality and understand why I'm even in the position to be where I'm at.

While I still don't think this film is anything for blackfolk to get all bent out of shape over I agree with this post....It would be a disservice of blacks to forget about/think our struggle is over cause white Amerikkka tolerates us a lil bit more...especially when you consider as far as we come we as a whole we still are anyman ways 2nd class citizens in this country.

 

[The Electric Lady]

While I still don't think this film is anything for blackfolk to get all bent out of shape over I agree with this post....It would be a disservice of blacks to forget about/think our struggle is over cause white Amerikkka tolerates us a lil bit more...especially when you consider as far as we come we as a whole we still are anyman ways 2nd class citizens in this country.

No one said anything about forgetting our history nor struggle.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Look man, I'm not at all overly sensitive. I grew up in a predominantly white area in the south and work in a predominantly white corporate environment in a red state. If I were overly sensitive I wouldn't have a job or live where I live.

That said, I didn't walk into the movie expecting to be offended. And truly I'm not "offended" by what I'm talking about...it's more accurate to say I take issue or have a critique of what QT has done. Of course, that critique can't be taken out of the context of what QT's previously done...which I didn't really touch on in my original breakdown of the movie.

Anyway:e



Yes, but what does it matter who said it? The word "******" was still being used for laughs...in a movie about slavery...written by a white director...who has a history of writing questionable lines using the word "******". If that's not cause for , you're just giving QT a pass he hasn't earned (and FYI--i don't think anyone should use the word in conversation and I don't use it myself).



Thank you. You're proving my point. In a movie about slavery, a black man is presented as arguably the most antagonistic force . This is absolutely the wrong message, and I don't assume the audience is educated well enough on slavery and the archetype that Stephen represents to not be rubbed the wrong way by it.



So you have Leo/Candie giving a 5-10 minute monologue voicing a phrenological argument for why blacks are submissive, not creative, and less intelligent--why we we're not "burdened by genius". This is what QT sat down to write for a movie that was essentially a vanity project-- something to do in his free time. Anyway, the movie's entire "rebuttal" to Candie's argument consists of:

1. A throwaway line from Schultz that Alexander Dumas was black (he was a quarter black)
2. Django stating that everything Candie said was "hogwash" or something to that effect.

In other words, a 10 second rebuttal to a 5 minute argument. And note that Django isn't the one who kills Candie-- it's Schultz. Django kills the hillbillies and rednecks that Candie states are essentially "******s" themselves throughout the movie. Also, side note, I guarantee you there will be increased searches for "black people skull shape", "black people skull dimples", "black people skull dimples" now. More Americans being introduced to phrenological arguments for black inferiority...gee, thanks Quentin .

Overall, you can't properly view this movie critically without asking yourself questions about why QT chose to make a movie set around slavery, chose to write it in the way he did, and chose to have it develop the way it did. My personal take is that this was QT putting most of his thoughts on race & blacks on the table (in a movie that runs 15 minutes shy of 3 hours ). Pretty disturbing look into his mind and the internal debate he's had/is having about our intelligence, agency, etc.

One of the worst attempts at film analysis I've ever read. You're so far off base that it's damn near trolling.

 

[YouMadd?]

The real question is... Why didn't Tarantino show any Holocaust scenes in Inglorious b*stard?

 

[gluvnast]

the interesting and possibly metaphoric aspect or moral is...

Spoiler

when it was all said and done, the main enemy was another black man protecting and preserving the white man's rule

 

[daze23]

The real question is... Why didn't Tarantino show any Holocaust scenes in Inglorious b*stard?

does the first scene count?

 

[Rapmastermind]

The real question is... Why didn't Tarantino show any Holocaust scenes in Inglorious b*stard?

Let's Use the same Django premise for the Holocaust:

Auschwitz Unchained:

A Jew being held at a concentration camp in Auschwitz is freed by a German Dr Bounty Hunter looking for a bounty on one of Hilters Top generals during the Holocaust. He goes to Auschwitz to find a Jew who's family was torn apart by this general. He frees and trains him and agrees to help him find his wife who is being held hostage at Hilter's Layer. They go from concentration camp to camp killing Nazi's until they get to the layer taking out Hilters personal guards, the general and then killing Hitler and saving his wife. There are 109 Jewish Slurs, 70's Music and Campy Jokes. Meanwhile we see the horrors of gassing, and death at the concentration camps.



If that was "Inglorious b*stards" then dudes would have an argument but it wasn't cause no way Jews in Hollywood would allow it.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

One of the worst attempts at film analysis I've ever read. You're so far off base that it's damn near trolling.

Kinda reminds me of the skit katt williams did about smart dumb brothers

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

the interesting and possibly metaphoric aspect or moral is...

Spoiler

when it was all said and done, the main enemy was another black man protecting and preserving the white man's rule

 

[phillycavsfan]

Let's Use the same Django premise for the Holocaust:

Auschwitz Unchained:

A Jew being held at a concentration camp in Auschwitz is freed by a German Dr Bounty Hunter looking for a bounty on one of Hilters Top generals during the Holocaust. He goes to Auschwitz to find a Jew who's family was torn apart by this general. He frees and trains him and agrees to help him find his wife who is being held hostage at Hilter's Layer. They go from concentration camp to camp killing Nazi's until they get to the layer taking out Hilters personal guards, the general and then killing Hitler and saving his wife. There are 109 Jewish Slurs, 70's Music and Campy Jokes. Meanwhile we see the horrors of gassing, and death at the concentration camps.

None of this makes any sense.

 

[Rapmastermind]

None of this makes any sense.

And a Black Slave turned Cowboy going on a Killing Spree during Slavery with a German Dentist does?

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Let's Use the same Django premise for the Holocaust:

Auschwitz Unchained:

A Jew being held at a concentration camp in Auschwitz is freed by a German Dr Bounty Hunter looking for a bounty on one of Hilters Top generals during the Holocaust. He goes to Auschwitz to find a Jew who's family was torn apart by this general. He frees and trains him and agrees to help him find his wife who is being held hostage at Hilter's Layer. They go from concentration camp to camp killing Nazi's until they get to the layer taking out Hilters personal guards, the general and then killing Hitler and saving his wife. There are 109 Jewish Slurs, 70's Music and Campy Jokes. Meanwhile we see the horrors of gassing, and death at the concentration camps.



If that was "Inglorious b*stards" then dudes would have an argument but it wasn't cause no way Jews in Hollywood would allow it.

People keep forgetting the movie is a nod to the blaxploitation era and most if not all of the jokes were directed at racists whites. The slurs while in abundance add authenticity. A movie set in antebellum south without the n-word.