Anyone Seen Django?

[YouMadd?]

does the first scene count?

Im actually going to see Django right now... So I'll be able to compare that first scene to the level of Slavery depicted in Django when I get back...

 

[colicolicoli]

I loved it...the scene about the masks had me rolling...and all that violence at the end.
"I counted, 6 bullets nikka" - SLJ
"I counted two guns nikka" - JF

"This is candyland, nikka!" - SLJ

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[B-Rock Odrama]

Spelling would help you get your point across, Sam Jackson was perfect in his role, he played the hell out of that role and when he woke up Calvin to how they were playing him, he also should that he playing Candie also, he c00ned it up for him in public but in private he spoke proper and showed an insight that Calvin lacked, if you remember Schultz told Django to play a role, well Stephen played a role also.

If you going to dwell on obvious typos on a messeboard make sure your use of grammar and punctuation are correct in your own post..that way you look like less of an a$$hole....kak

Sam uel did a solid job but it wasn't anything special to me....As far as believability Chicken George"s toming in Roots>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Stepen's amateur c00ning....

Then again Sam Jack's horrible makeup job which made him look cartoonish probably is also a big reason I couldn't take him serious as Stephen.

For the record I thought the old whitey whom played Shultz performance is overrated on here too...He was okay at best but the scences whens when he was attempting to explain he was an bounty hunter and thus legally killing wanted criminals wile held at gun point by authorities wasn't great acting.


Those scenerious you mentioned(for Stephen) were part of the script and doesn't=top notch acting..For the recocrd the only person in this film whom's performance really stood out was Leo and I suspect it's cause like the average Amerikkkan born honkey slave holding in in his blood and playng racist bigot comes as 2nd nature..

 

[daze23]

Im actually going to see Django right now... So I'll be able to compare that first scene to the level of Slavery depicted in Django when I get back...

glad to know you'll be keeping score

 

[phillycavsfan]

And a Black Cowboy going on a Killing Spree during Slavery with a German Dentist does?

It makes just as much sense as a lady with a sword killing 88 bad guys one by one, or a room of British and German soldiers basically exterminating themselves in a glorious gunfight.

 

[Stone Cold]

the interesting and possibly metaphoric aspect or moral is...

Spoiler

when it was all said and done, the main enemy was another black man protecting and preserving the white man's rule

oh the irony

 

[Adam3000]

Just got back from the theater.

Thought the movie was pretty good, but fell short of great. Too much story crammed in, not enough development. For example, they find the 3 brothers to kill on the first plantation they visit. And Django is a master killer with very little time spent showing him improve from slave to top bounty hunter. The movie was too long already so it wasn't really possible to fit it all in, but a Vol. 1 & 2 like Kill Bill might have gotten it done.

Someone in the theater kept laughing really loud when they would use the 'n word' which made it really awkward. I don't know if he was white or black, but either way it was immature and hurt the movie experience.

Leo stole the show in my opinion

 

[ZEB WALTON]

As a white guy, you should probably shut the fukk up when it comes to how black people feel.

:HALL:

youre a fakkit

 

[CM_Burns]

He said on the foxxhole, that this was the first villian he truely hated.

I find it interesting you thought candee to be gay.....i just thought it was on that southern incest tip

Also someone said that the movie hinted at candie being gay.. i took it differently. I thought the dude who was about to de-testicle django was kind of gay, but not candie. I mean, when he said switch positions to the mandingo fighters is was weird, and that statue he had.... but i think it just goes back to justification for their actions. It eluded to a greek/roman esque view of how fighting, brutality, and carnage were regarded highly in their world of entertainment. And candies whole outburst about how he owns the slaves and can do what he wants to his property shows it perfectly.

I don't think Candie was actually fukking dudes or even considers himself gay, but I think QT was getting at the theory that racist white men are actually sexually attracted to a Mandingo, physically dominant black men with Candie.

The sculpture was lingered on for a while at dinner, QT definetely wanted the audience to notice it. It was one man beating up another, but that the man losing had his back turned and the man beating him was in a position basically with his pelvis on the victim's ass made it look like he could be fukking him.

When candie's introduced, I'd have to see it again, but from what I remember all we hear is dudes wrestling around and grunting, we don't really see them fighting, then we hear Leo say something about changing positions. Then he was damn near flirting with the winner of the mandingo fight after that.



It's messages like this and the way Schultz as a "good white" is still kind of indicted that makes me think the idea that this movie is a cac's wet dream or whatever is ridiculous. Racists are motivated by latent homosexuality and "good" whites are falsely righteous by still taking advantage of racial inequality. Some of the audience will look over this kind of stuff and just gravitate to "n1gger" being said by white people a lot, but really the tone of the film is far from anti-black.

 

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People keep forgetting the movie is a nod to the blaxploitation era and most if not all of the jokes were directed at racists whites. The slurs while in abundance add authenticity. A movie set in antebellum south without the n-word.

I wouldn't say it is a nod to blaxploitation. Looks heavily influenced by the italian westerns of the 60s and 70s.

I noticed the n-word wasn't used by the two Aussie characters.
A the majority of the n-word seem to have came out of Candie's mouth.

Also, the majority of blaxploitation movies were written by whites, iirc. Willie Dynamite had this guy writing the screenplay

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Did anyone get to witness an awkward staredown moment between blacks and cacs before entering this movie like
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lol

Me and the girlfriend had a packed house today and a black couple on both sides. I'd been following news about the movie here at the coli going in, so I knew there'd be a couple cringe scenes. The couple to my left was easily in their 60's if not 70's, and they definitely were uncomfortable in parts. I felt uncomfortable too at first until people in theater starting opening up and getting into the movie. Just the marching during the opening credits with the scars on the backs was fukking tough shyt. Horrible.

I enjoyed the movie, and thought it was one of QT's better ones of the recent bunch. Music was excellent, beautiful cinematography. I didn't think the n-bomb was overused until they hit candy land, and then there were some parts where I had to cringe at how often it was being thrown around.

My favorite part about the movie is that it genuinely looked like everyone involved was having a blast. I'm glad Leo finally took a big risk, and Sam Jackson was a scene-stealer in a room full of scene-stealers. Waltz was wonderful as always and Foxx was more understated than I expected. But this might be my favorite Foxx action role.

The 3 parts that really bothered me were

Spoiler

1. the dogs
2. Kerry in the hotbox and being whipped
3. Foxx upside down with the collar on

some brutal shyt...I couldn't have been happier to see Foxx shred everyone to pieces. Rice. I thought the Pac scene was the finale and then he went back in again.

 

[MouseTeeth]

Movie was ill fukk spike and his opinion.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

The real question is... Why didn't Tarantino show any Holocaust scenes in Inglorious b*stard?

He knew better. Black people unfortunately are not respected enough as a collective so our pain can be made into a joke. Django Unchained is demonic trash.

 

[NormanConnors]

Look man, I'm not at all overly sensitive. I grew up in a predominantly white area in the south and work in a predominantly white corporate environment in a red state. If I were overly sensitive I wouldn't have a job or live where I live.

That said, I didn't walk into the movie expecting to be offended. And truly I'm not "offended" by what I'm talking about...it's more accurate to say I take issue or have a critique of what QT has done. Of course, that critique can't be taken out of the context of what QT's previously done...which I didn't really touch on in my original breakdown of the movie.

Anyway:



Yes, but what does it matter who said it? The word "******" was still being used for laughs...in a movie about slavery...written by a white director...who has a history of writing questionable lines using the word "******". If that's not cause for , you're just giving QT a pass he hasn't earned (and FYI--i don't think anyone should use the word in conversation and I don't use it myself).



Thank you. You're proving my point. In a movie about slavery, a black man is presented as arguably the most antagonistic force . This is absolutely the wrong message, and I don't assume the audience is educated well enough on slavery and the archetype that Stephen represents to not be rubbed the wrong way by it.



So you have Leo/Candie giving a 5-10 minute monologue voicing a phrenological argument for why blacks are submissive, not creative, and less intelligent--why we we're not "burdened by genius". This is what QT sat down to write for a movie that was essentially a vanity project-- something to do in his free time. Anyway, the movie's entire "rebuttal" to Candie's argument consists of:

1. A throwaway line from Schultz that Alexander Dumas was black (he was a quarter black)
2. Django stating that everything Candie said was "hogwash" or something to that effect.

In other words, a 10 second rebuttal to a 5 minute argument. And note that Django isn't the one who kills Candie-- it's Schultz. Django kills the hillbillies and rednecks that Candie states are essentially "******s" themselves throughout the movie. Also, side note, I guarantee you there will be increased searches for "black people skull shape", "black people skull dimples", "black people skull dimples" now. More Americans being introduced to phrenological arguments for black inferiority...gee, thanks Quentin .

Overall, you can't properly view this movie critically without asking yourself questions about why QT chose to make a movie set around slavery, chose to write it in the way he did, and chose to have it develop the way it did. My personal take is that this was QT putting most of his thoughts on race & blacks on the table (in a movie that runs 15 minutes shy of 3 hours ). Pretty disturbing look into his mind and the internal debate he's had/is having about our intelligence, agency, etc.

knowledge dropped

 

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Me and the girlfriend had a packed house today and a black couple on both sides. I'd been following news about the movie here at the coli going in, so I knew there'd be a couple cringe scenes. The couple to my left was easily in their 60's if not 70's, and they definitely were uncomfortable in parts. I felt uncomfortable too at first until people in theater starting opening up and getting into the movie. Just the marching during the opening credits with the scars on the backs was fukking tough shyt. Horrible.

I enjoyed the movie, and thought it was one of QT's better ones of the recent bunch. Music was excellent, beautiful cinematography. I didn't think the n-bomb was overused until they hit candy land, and then there were some parts where I had to cringe at how often it was being thrown around.

My favorite part about the movie is that it genuinely looked like everyone involved was having a blast. I'm glad Leo finally took a big risk, and Sam Jackson was a scene-stealer in a room full of scene-stealers. Waltz was wonderful as always and Foxx was more understated than I expected. But this might be my favorite Foxx action role.

The 3 parts that really bothered me were

Spoiler

1. the dogs
2. Kerry in the hotbox and being whipped
3. Foxx upside down with the collar on

some brutal shyt...I couldn't have been happier to see Foxx shred everyone to pieces. Rice. I thought the Pac scene was the finale and then he went back in again.

Same thing with me. They had some tough scenes to watch.

And this had the best cinematography I seen from QT's films