Anyone Seen Django?

[Binary]

He knew better. Black people unfortunately are not respected enough as a collective so our pain can be made into a joke. Django Unchained is demonic trash.

Or because IB was set in Nazi occupied France where it was more for Germany to reach England via it.

Hence why there wasn't an emphasis on the camps but the hunting of the jews to send to camps.

 

[gluvnast]

some more analysis...

Spoiler

schultz is a proof that the white man, even in a noble cause is detrimental in the cause in helping the black man. schultz is clearly a liberal that want to fight injustice wherever he sees it, which was why he got into the bounty killer business in the 1st place.

he claims he doesn't approve of slavery when in truth, he doesn't really understand it due to the fact he never experience the cruelty slavery presents 1st hand. he merely assumed its no different from bounty killing as he stated in the film. it was BECAUSE him witnessing the harshness of slavery upfront, and more specifically from candie's plantation along side his own PRIDE was broken by candie for ending up putting up 12G's for the purchase of broomhilde that he couldn't accept a person like candie get away with the upper hand, in spite they actually accomplished whut they came for. his moral sensibilities, something he taught django NOT to go off by, was the reason for his own demise and almost both django and broomhilde's as well...

 

[yoyoyo1]

Don't worry people, just cause you're black doesn't have to mean you're astonished or affected by the slavery scenes. That shyt was 150 years ago, and I'm not saying 'get over it' but I'm saying, you can't relate, and it's alright not to be able to. That doesn't make you less of a black person.

Some people are trying too hard to be aware. Which is noble in purpose, but just backwards in thinking these days.

Just like at the Passion of Christ I saw a bunch of people crying and I'm like you're trying too hard, fakkits.

If you know what I mean.

 

[CM_Burns]

some more analysis...

Spoiler

schultz is a proof that the white man, even in a noble cause is detrimental in the cause in helping the black man. schultz is clearly a liberal that want to fight injustice wherever he sees it, which was why he got into the bounty killer business in the 1st place.

he claims he doesn't approve of slavery when in truth, he doesn't really understand it due to the fact he never experience the cruelty slavery presents 1st hand. he merely assumed its no different from bounty killing as he stated in the film. it was BECAUSE him witnessing the harshness of slavery upfront, and more specifically from candie's plantation along side his own PRIDE was broken by candie for ending up putting up 12G's for the purchase of broomhilde that he couldn't accept a person like candie get away with the upper hand, in spite they actually accomplished whut they came for. his moral sensibilities, something he taught django NOT to go off by, was the reason for his own demise and almost both django and broomhilde's as well...

I don't think he approves of slavery, but I agree that QT was critical of him and most "well-intentioned" whites. That he gives Django 1/3rd of the bounty money as his partner is better treatment than any white men give Django in the movie, but he's still not treating him as an equal. Like you said, he also was adamant that Django keep his cool and not jeopardize the transaction by getting mad at swipes at his pride, but shortly after when his pride is insulted he risks everyone's life.

Schultz was a cool character, but there was definitely criticism of him and what he represents today. That's why I really liked the "I despise slavery, but I will take advantage of it. Having said that, I feel guilty" line.

 

[NormanConnors]

theater reaction to sam jacks role is along the same reasons why Dave Chappelle quit his show

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Or because IB was set in Nazi occupied France where it was more for Germany to reach England via it.

Hence why there wasn't an emphasis on the camps but the hunting of the jews to send to camps.

Convenient. Like i said, he knew better then to even think about setting the film at a time that would depict those camps. The JDL would be on his buns so fast he'd have a rewrite before it even left his brain, friend.

 

[Methodical]

Django Unchained is the best movie of the year.

What I don't understand is everybody would take Spike Lee's seriously?...cause this dude is a damn fell off and he actually talked sh!t on Clint Eastwood's movie (Letters from Iwo Jima) about not having black people in that movie and Clint shut him down and went in. Spike Lee just had us

Spike Lee's WW2 movie, (Miracle at St. Anna) was just embarrassed. Funny....Spike Lee dislikes Django Unchained and yet Will Smith loves Django Unchained.

Honestly, I thought this movie gonna get a lot of hated but...this movie is the best of the year. QT knew what is he doing. All I can say is...Spike Lee needs to shut the f*ck up cause you're already damn fell off....even I love Spike Lee films but he isn't the same Spike Lee we knows.

There are a lot of black people went to see that movie....guesss what....all of them f*cking loved it.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Don't worry people, just cause you're black doesn't have to mean you're astonished or affected by the slavery scenes. That shyt was 150 years ago, and I'm not saying 'get over it' but I'm saying, you can't relate, and it's alright not to be able to. That doesn't make you less of a black person.

No one ever says this to jewish people or native americans. Please stop with the demonic filth. Please stop minimizing historical pain. We can look around and see the adverse effects of slavery every day. Please stop. Its so demonic, friend.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

That's the point, you can't evolve pass something that's still effecting our People. The biggest issue with Slavery is America just doesn't want to address it, they still want to brush it under the rug cause it happen hundreds of years ago they feel it's over and we should move on. Lincoln freed us and then we had another 100 years of segregation. I was born in 1980 so I'm the 1st post-civil rights generation Black American. My parents grew up in that sh!t, My Grandparents also and my great-grandparents were Slaves.

Same with the Native Americans, America really haven't addressed them either. Jews got reparations, Japanese got reparations. Blacks? Nothing. We actually have Congressmen saying "Get over Slavery". The biggest issue is White America doesn't want to address it. Blacks should NEVER get over or move on from Slavery cause we need to always remember those who gave their lives so we could even sit in a movie theater and watch "Django". It's not weak to "Cling" onto Slavery, it's respect for our ancestors to understand their struggle and sacrifice. To the Jews the saying for the Holocaust is "Never forget". In America for Slavery blacks are always told to "Move On, Get Over It". Not me man, I will never move on, I have to keep those memories and stories in me to keep me grounded of my reality and understand why I'm even in the position to be where I'm at.

I respectfully disagree.

If you read my post i at no point said "forget about slavery", and you CAN evolve past something that still effects you, that's the only way you learn.

The point i was trying to make is that slavery is always been brought up in the black discourse for progress for too long. Even with each other i think we latch onto it in times of solidarity when it really isnt needed. I also think that there are finally enough blacks who are educated to where our communities shoulda been able self-sustain on both an economic and intellectual realms. But de facto rasicm aside, many of us DON'T help our communities (which you can argue is an effect of slavery).

I just feel that we can do better, as a race, and it doesn't have shyt to do with the "man" or the other factors. We can eradicate the addict epidimics in our hoods ourselfs by educating our kids on what drugs DO. We can eliminate debt when we teach our kids how to work with money...and so on...these are things that aren't dependent on a school system or the social factors. When we educate ourselves we get to point where the shortcomings no no longer matter.

I see your point, and respect your stance. I just disagree.

 

[yoyoyo1]

No one ever says this to jewish people or native americans. Please stop with the demonic filth. Please stop minimizing historical pain. We can look around and see the adverse effects of slavery every day. Please stop. Its so demonic, friend.

Jews are annoying as fukk with that shyt, the victim role but this ain't a thread about them tho. The Holocaust was what, 60 years ago and half their people got wiped out. Only with time will people stop caring, same as slavery, same as with everything else.

 

[gluvnast]

I don't think he approves of slavery, but I agree that QT was critical of him and most "well-intentioned" whites. That he gives Django 1/3rd of the bounty money as his partner is better treatment than any white men give Django in the movie, but he's still not treating him as an equal. Like you said, he also was adamant that Django keep his cool and not jeopardize the transaction by getting mad at swipes at his pride, but shortly after when his pride is insulted he risks everyone's life.

Schultz was a cool character, but there was definitely criticism of him and what he represents today. That's why I really liked the "I despise slavery, but I will take advantage of it. Having said that, I feel guilty" line.

PRECISELY...

 

[yoyoyo1]

I didn't read anything into the 1/3rd thing. Because it's all about the leads, and Schultz knew exactly where to find everyone. What's harder, finding the criminals or just shooting them? I don't think the 2/3 and 1/3 split had any meaning as Django was new and didn't know what the hell he was doing. I think he wanted to focus on Schultz's hypocrisy through his statements, but people are reading too much into it the $ split.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Jews are annoying as fukk with that shyt, the victim role but this ain't a thread about them tho. The Holocaust was what, 60 years ago and half their people got wiped out. Only with time will people stop caring, same as slavery, same as with everything else.

That wasnt the point. To trash Jewish people. The point is, you cant minimize the pain of a people when the effects are all around us. Its insensitive, satanic and an indicator that you're trying to hard because i mean who really degrades people for being offended at filth?

 

[Methodical]

theater reaction to sam jacks role is along the same reasons why Dave Chappelle quit his show

You're a dumba$$...that's totally different situation. Haven't you seen Dave doing a blind white supremacist who is not aware that he is actually a black man skit?. Dave would have no problem what Sam is doing with role and Sam nailed cause it's happened in the slavery time and he wasn't mocking black people......Dave's problem was that he doesn't like to wear a dress to be funny, tried formula of black man acting like an angry black woman to score cheap wear a dress to be funny.

 

[Rapmastermind]

I respectfully disagree.

If you read my post i at no point said "forget about slavery", and you CAN evolve past something that still effects you, that's the only way you learn.

The point i was trying to make is that slavery is always been brought up in the black discourse for progress for too long. Even with each other i think we latch onto it in times of solidarity when it really isnt needed. I also think that there are finally enough blacks who are educated to where our communities shoulda been able self-sustain on both an economic and intellectual realms. But de facto rasicm aside, many of us DON'T help our communities (which you can argue is an effect of slavery).

I just feel that we can do better, as a race, and it doesn't have shyt to do with the "man" or the other factors. We can eradicate the addict epidimics in our hoods ourselfs by educating our kids on what drugs DO. We can eliminate debt when we teach our kids how to work with money...and so on...these are things that aren't dependent on a school system or the social factors. When we educate ourselves we get to point where the shortcomings no no longer matter.

I see your point, and respect your stance. I just disagree.

Point taken, In no way was I saying we can't do more. Of course we can as a race. My major point is America itself hasn't really gotten over or addressed Slavery in the sense that Racism is still alive and well. Sure in the Laws Slavery is over but they found new ways to keep us in chains (Prison, Economic Class). I think when I said "Evolve" I mean more psychologically. There is still a lot of self hatred in the Black Community. Of course we've evolved as a nation from Slavery itself but we haven't evolved from Racism, it's still here.

I do not see myself a victim that can't make it in America cause of Slavery but I do see myself as a decedent of victims who voices were at times lost and buried with them in a terrible time. I have to carry the cross as NaS said of those voices by learning and understand the history. This is why though we've moved on from Slavery we must not lost the message and history of it.

You have to remember in School Slavery was whitewashed like a lot of our History. I'm happy we evolved to end up becoming President but we still have a long way to go. Martin and Malcolm wasn't that long ago. My parents were kids during that whole drama. If anything positive can come from "Django" hopefully a conversation can be started that the effects of Slavery are not over but they have evolved to something new.