Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania starring Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Jonathan Majors, & Bill Murry Feb 17th, 2023

[winb83]

these films were all under a different disney head.

the effect of Iger coming back will feed through eventually.

'Too much quantity and too little quality' - Marvel changes approach: what will be the future of the MCU? - News Unrolled

Due to the many criticisms received regarding Phase 4 products, Marvel Studios has decided to change its approach for the next Phases. OUR Marvel Studiosafter the completion of the epic Phase 3 with Avengers: Endgame As well as Spider-Man: Far From Homethey seem to have lost their way. We are…

newsunrolled.com

The CEO isn’t writing this stuff.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Reviews are saying this is Mid

Why would anyone think this movie would be anything more than mid?

 

[null]

I don't know how much Chapek had to do with these middling films. He wasn't like Perlmutter interfering with Feige and the MCU productions.

Wrong.

A change will definitely come though.

His chain of command, in particular Kareem Daniel was interfering with a drive to create new content. One strategic reason for this was Disney+ and the desire to create content for that.

Daniel was removed as soon as Chapek was gone.

"Disney Dismisses Chapek Deputy Kareem Daniel As Bob Iger Puts “Decision-Making Back In The Hands Of Our Creative Teams”​

By JAMIE LANG | 11/22/2022 7:00 am | 2

Kareem Daniel, chairman of Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution under Bob Chapek, has left the company just one day after Disney parted ways with its now-former CEO."

Disney Dismisses Chapek Deputy Kareem Daniel As Bob Iger Puts "Decision-Making Back In The Hands Of Our Creative Teams”

A key figure in Disney's shift towards data-driven decision-making, Daniel's departure seemed likely after Iger's return.

www.cartoonbrew.com

Word on the street was that even Feige (and upwards) were against the Chapek/Daniel strategy.

@winb83 see above. the creatives were not making the decisions as they were under Iger.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

these films were all under a different disney head.

nah bro... whether the movies are good or bad.. they start and end with Feige

 

[null]

nah bro... whether the movies are good or bad.. they start and end with Feige

No they don't.

Read the links I posted before babbling.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

No they don't.

Read the links I posted before babbling.

nah.. stop the cap.

 

[null]

nah.. stop the cap.

coli breh refuses to read shocker

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

coli breh refuses to read shocker

we've been told for 15 years that they leave Feige alone and he has complete control. Now they want a fall guy cause of a few Ls? Yeah.. nah.. stop. Lol.

Regardless.. i still have hope for the movie.

 

[Lootpack]

we've been told for 15 years that they leave Feige alone and he has complete control. Now they want a fall guy cause of a few Ls? Yeah.. nah.. stop. Lol.

Regardless.. i still have hope for the movie.

Who said that? Chapek and Co. micromanaging not just Feige, but Kennedy (LucasFilms) and Docter (Pixar) in creative is well-documented at this point. That's part of the reason why the majority of folks were pleased at the news of him exiting.

 

[acri1]

nikkas haven't even seen the movie and already complaining

 

[Ribbs]

I don't even watch Rotten Tomatoes scoring or believe in it as a metric of how good a movie is, but 58%??

 

[Jmare007]

Seems like this movie's legacy will be "the one were the ´real' Kang showed up" and people will forget everything else

nah bro... whether the movies are good or bad.. they start and end with Feige

All the movies after Endgame have clearly shown otherwise.

People underrate how important the Russo brother's were to the MCU. Even though other creators did their thing too (BP, GOTG, Thor Ragnarok) it was them who lead Phase 3, which was the one that made Marvel go into a whole nother level when it come to pop culture and, sadly, the film industry.

The MCU needs to find film makers than can elevate the material and give Feige's plans a better execution

 

[OmegaK2099]

Why would anyone think this movie would be anything more than mid?

Considering Kang is supposed to be the big bad for the MCU going forward expectations were high

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Everyone giving majors his props as he deserves

Grace said he was GREAT in the 1st half of the movie.

However, in the 2nd half of the movie she says they made him goofy.

 

[VoxSphere74]

Currently 53% on RT.


So at this point they need to put aside their cac egos and write Kang in a compelling way because otherwise their future film plans aren't going to work.