Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania starring Paul Rudd, Evangeline Lilly, Jonathan Majors, & Bill Murry Feb 17th, 2023

[En Sabah Nur]

I didn't think it was as bad as so many are saying personally. I have no plans to watch the first half of the movie again, but once Kang was revealed it was entertaining.

And reading this thread made it seem like Scott beat Kang Rey Force Awakens style, when he actually got the the 31 flavors beat out of him

Spoiler: Kang getting beat didn't really bother me

Unless I'm not understanding, without his suit he's just a normal

 

[Deltron]

They want the viewer to sympathize with the villain. Make human and likable not just a tyrant ..

Thanos had the nice speech on why... made us question was he right... The best villains have real motivations that can be viewed as right to some

So did killmonger


This writer for kang just sucked though.

 

[Trav]

Spoiler

kang is weaker and doesn't have his full capabilities

Spoiler

he was not at his full capabilities IN THE QUANTUM REALM. he needed to escape the quantum realm to be able to get back to full strength.


please tell me how Kang can travel the multiverse when he's at full strength...but when he's in the quantum realm he can't just escape even with his ship and suit....could it be that being banished to a place where he is weaker...makes him weaker? Could it be that the other Kangs who know themsevles know exactly where they would be weaker?

 

[Trav]

Movie was cool. Ain't finna lie. Almost fell asleep a couple times. 2nd credits had me more intrigued for Loki S2 than anything. And I actually likes the first two Ant Man's. Not sure I liked where they went with this one though. However, I didn't think it was unbearably bad either.

 

[Lord Beasley]

no urge to watch marvel since Midgame. i think i saved my self a lot of money

 

[TheGreatMTB]

how much of the MCUs downswing do you attribute to the quality of films vs the non-stop YouTube media hate train against it?

I'm not saying whether the YouTube train is justified or not...but I place most of the credit to them. They have been monetizing the hell out of hate ever since Captain Marvel.

Second place: The lack of marquee Marvel characters headlining the movies.

Third: The quality of the writing. It's not like phase 1-3 were all top tier movies.

 

[Mission249]

Third: The quality of the writing. It's not like phase 1-3 were all top tier movies.

I'm putting it mainly here. The over the top "YouTube hate train for ad clicks" can't exist without bad movies.

First couple phases had bad movies but they had a couple things to hide that issue:
1. Once in a lifetime new idea of a universe spanning multiple movies. That's old news now.
2. Very simple story about one bad guy collecting 6 stones. I'm a big nerd and I barely understand MCU's rules for the multiverse after watching Loki, No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, etc. Plus the idea that there's multiple versions of people lowers the stakes to me.
3. Great casting with Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans, etc. None of these replacement across can carry movies like them.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

how much of the MCUs downswing do you attribute to the quality of films vs the non-stop YouTube media hate train against it?

I'm not saying whether the YouTube train is justified or not...but I place most of the credit to them. They have been monetizing the hell out of hate ever since Captain Marvel.

Second place: The lack of marquee Marvel characters headlining the movies.

Third: The quality of the writing. It's not like phase 1-3 were all top tier movies.

Hmm . . . I think there are just as many channels that are MCU love fests so it all balances out.
BUT something interesting that has taken hold like since the MCU got to like Age of Ultron. Many youtubers make a living off of strictly covering Marvel whether negative or positive. Like the MCU has created a news industry surrounding MCU news, theories, leaks, etc.
Someone posted a vid of a guy complaining about the CGI masks. I watch the beginning and he says, "I'm known for such Marvel nit picks as this, that and the third . . . " Like wow, you are known for that?! And his channel has 339K subs and the vid had 100s of thousands of views. And it is about CGI masks in MCU movies. What?! That's kinda crazy when you think about it.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Hmm . . . I think there are just as many channels that are MCU love fests so it all balances out.
BUT something interesting that has taken hold like since the MCU got to like Age of Ultron. Many youtubers make a living off of strictly covering Marvel whether negative or positive. Like the MCU has created a news industry surrounding MCU news, theories, leaks, etc.
Someone posted a vid of a guy complaining about the CGI masks. I watch the beginning and he says, "I'm known for such Marvel nit picks as this, that and the third . . . " Like wow, you are known for that?! And his channel has 339K subs and the vid had 100s of thousands of views. And it is about CGI masks in MCU movies. What?! That's kinda crazy when you think about it.

Nerds are annoying

 

[Trav]

No way this move is worse than Thor love and thunder. Critics tripping.

Yeah, I ain't going that far. That shyt was pure nonsense.

 

[Mission249]

Someone posted a vid of a guy complaining about the CGI masks.

I get your point but the CGI masks are lazy as hell to me. In the early Iron Man movies him suiting up was a fukking event like Voltron assembling or a knight suiting up for battle.

Now you blink and it just appears on for everyone. Even low tech heroes like Spider Man. I get it's easier for the movie makers to do it that way but it's anti climatic. I can see them having to do this for Ironheart and being like "yeah...so a couple weeks after she invented the armor she invented nanotech too sooo....we're good right? "

 

[wire28]

Hmm . . . I think there are just as many channels that are MCU love fests so it all balances out.
BUT something interesting that has taken hold like since the MCU got to like Age of Ultron. Many youtubers make a living off of strictly covering Marvel whether negative or positive. Like the MCU has created a news industry surrounding MCU news, theories, leaks, etc.
Someone posted a vid of a guy complaining about the CGI masks. I watch the beginning and he says, "I'm known for such Marvel nit picks as this, that and the third . . . " Like wow, you are known for that?! And his channel has 339K subs and the vid had 100s of thousands of views. And it is about CGI masks in MCU movies. What?! That's kinda crazy when you think about it.

Some on here hate marvel daily for free tho

 

[beenz]

It's so crazy to me, they literally have a giant redo button but are afraid to kill or take chances that aren't dumb. Like making, modok and taskmaster...smh

There is not a single phase 4 or 5 new comer that I'm attached too and thats sad. The closest thing is Yelena, she's probably the most developed character that I'd like to see stick around

you right tho. no one in phase 4 is restoring the feeling. the one exception will probably be kang, cuz I REALLY liked him and jonathan majors in that roll as this generation's thanos.

the NEWEST character that people really gravitated to is tom holland, and he came on the scene like 7 years ago at this point.

 

[Red Shield]

Quantumania Writer Defends How Kang the Conqueror Was Handled

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania writer Jeff Loveness defends the film’s portrayal of Jonathan Majors’ Kang the Conqueror.

www.cbr.com

they still got time to course correct and make sure this writer aint doing the writing for the rest of Kang's time

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

they still got time to course correct and make sure this writer aint doing the writing for the rest of Kang's time

he's doing Kang Dynasty and some of Loki Season 2.. So he's in it unless they go a different direction..