Anime Talk: Who wins in a battle,The Espada led by Aizen or the uchiha‘s led by Madara?

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Madara being a living "god" still falls for all the same illusions and speed of combat....

Aizen moves faster than the speed of light (everyone in Bleach does)....keep in mind that if we get rid of the speed battle, and focus on strength. Madara was bodied by Guy with just martial arts. So he's definitely gonna hold that L with just Ulquiorra alone, forget the Hongokyu, thats overkill.
 

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Madara single-handedly washes all of them and with adult Sasuke by his side it's overkillll.

Madara's and Sasuke's rinnegan see through everything. No illusion can affect them. Their eyes are not normal eyes like brehs here are thinking.
Even if Aizen somehow hypnotizes the rinnegan Madara still has a sixth sense called six path sage mode which makes him sense everything even other dimensions.
It is impossible to trick this sense because Aizen can only hypnotize the 5 senses. I also forgot to mention that ninjas have the ability to release themselves from illusions and hypnosis. Many brehs are also forgetting that Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke are all hypnosis specialists. They can also put Aizen in an illusion.

How does Madara single-handedly wash them?

He has powerful abilities like Limbo (completely invisible and invincible clones that are as strong as he is), infinite Tsukuyomi (most powerful illusion in the series), Perfect Susanoo (ultimate defense and offense), Light fang (can cut anything in the speed of light) and Truth-seeking orbs (completely disintegrates objects).

Limbo is the reason why he can handle the all the Arrancars and Aizen by himself. They will not be able to see the clones nor hit them. No attack affects them so this another fail-safe against Aizen's hypnotic abilities.

Many people in this thread think that Madara can't throw nukes like Ulquiorra. He can through nukes way stronger than him. Just look what this guy that was weaker than Madara did.

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A person weaker than Madara cut the moon in half and Naruto took this blast to the face like it was nothing.

I also forgot to say that Madara is immortal so they can't kill him.

Most of those abilities don’t matter against hax.

Again, all those abilities mean absolutely nothing against high tier Bleach characters. You’re talking about Truth Seeker orbs and Limbo but you’re forgetting that Soul Reapers already operate on multiple planes of existence while also having abilities that do the same. Limbo literally exists in purgatory, which is the realm that Shinigami exist in. They’re actually well-suited to fight that power just by the nature of their powers. Hell, Shinigami naturally operate in the world of Limbo.

Aizen no-sold the dimensional sweeper that completely erases anything it touches out of existence and laughed while doing it. You can’t even be around Aizen without a certain level of spiritual pressure because you’ll just explode and die.

Limbo means NOTHING to high tier Bleach foes. Susanoo means nothing. Lille just points at Madara and Susanoo is completely broken, no defense matters.

Again, there is absolutely nothing Madara can do against the likes of Barragan. One shot of Respira and it’s game over for 99% of the Naruto-verse because it can’t really blocked and they’re not ancient like Shinigami.

I really wish they showed the last arc of Bleach ON TV because cats really don’t understand how broken high tier Bleach characters are. Gremmy teleports Madara into space and then nukes the rest of them.
 

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@bolded this is all hype, look I'm not into these types of topics. And its been a while since I saw these type of debates. So Im rusty in this stuff

but last I checked when I viewed them im pretty sure you can't just use this reasoning:mjlol:.
You need features/calcs I remember that much about this shyt:comeon: Same with Ulq where your calculations, because we can play this game for a while on hype and author's statements

but fukk it seeing as how we playing this game the poster above me kinda already answered for me



As for the OP vs Bleach point: Ur downplaying One Piece and in particular its speed. Law would be able to handle Stark and Barragan as he was able to catch up with Doflamingo who has a impressive meteorite feat.(SO he has the speed)

and his shambles abilities are broken enough to handle them
speaking of which

Umm no. Yhwach specifically states that war potentials have infinite potential due to their latent power. It’s why Yama wasn’t one. Kenpachi sliced a meteor that was much bigger than the one Madara summoned with a single hit and he barely tried.

Gremmy ain’t gonna have those issues with Madara? Downplaying One Piece? Are you high?

Donflamingo wasn’t faster than Gear 4th Light and you think that Law is gonna do anything to fukking Barragan or Stark? How?

Do you know who Soi Fon is? She’s faster than anything in One Piece and you think Law can do anything to her? Law gets turned into ash by standing near Stark who was so powerful that he literally kills hollows by just being near them.
 

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@bolded this is all hype, look I'm not into these types of topics. And its been a while since I saw these type of debates. So Im rusty in this stuff

but last I checked when I viewed them im pretty sure you can't just use this reasoning:mjlol:.
You need features/calcs I remember that much about this shyt:comeon: Same with Ulq where your calculations, because we can play this game for a while on hype and author's statements

but fukk it seeing as how we playing this game the poster above me kinda already answered for me



As for the OP vs Bleach point: Ur downplaying One Piece and in particular its speed. Law would be able to handle Stark and Barragan as he was able to catch up with Doflamingo who has a impressive meteorite feat.(SO he has the speed)

and his shambles abilities are broken enough to handle them
speaking of which

Umm no. Yhwach specifically states that war potentials have infinite potential due to their latent power. It’s why Yama wasn’t one. Kenpachi sliced a meteor that was much bigger than the one Madara summoned with a single hit and he barely tried.

Gremmy ain’t gonna have those issues with Madara? Downplaying One Piece? Are you high?

Donflamingo wasn’t faster than Gear 4th Light and you think that Law is gonna do anything to fukking Barragan or Stark? How?

Do you know who Soi Fon is? She’s faster than anything in One Piece and you think Law can do anything to her? Law gets turned into ash by standing near Stark who was so powerful that he literally kills hollows by just being near them.

The title says ten tails Madara. If someone has the ten tails then they become immortal. Both times he died was without the ten tails.
I also forgot to mention that Madara can also summon hundreds of wood and shadow clones to overwhelm Aizen and his team. Dealing with one Madara is horrible but fighting with hundreds of his clones is just overkill.


Cutting the moon in half would take thousands of times the power Ulquiorra uses. Limbo clones will just attach TSB to the Arrancar and Aizen which would disintegrate them or just decapitate them with light fang and they wouldn't even know what hit them. It's that easy. Limbo clones are horribly hax. You can't sense or touch them at all unless you have the exact same ability as Madara. Another Limbo clone can just fly up and start infinite Tsukuyomi and put all of Aizen's team in a trance for eternity.

Except Limbo clones have to return to the body and can’t stay out infinitely so when Gremmy says “No more Madara” or throws Madara into space, something he does in character, Madara is screwed.

Gremmy creates multiple clones of himself. Askin instantly analyzes Madara’s chakra and becomes invincible to anything with his energy in it, no matter how powerful it is. He can’t even touch Lille or defend himself against serious Lille. Gerard keeps regenerating and getting more powerful until he’s just far too powerful for them to deal with it.
 

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Most of those abilities don’t matter against hax.

Again, all those abilities mean absolutely nothing against high tier Bleach characters. You’re talking about Truth Seeker orbs and Limbo but you’re forgetting that Soul Reapers already operate on multiple planes of existence while also having abilities that do the same. Limbo literally exists in purgatory, which is the realm that Shinigami exist in. They’re actually well-suited to fight that power just by the nature of their powers. Hell, Shinigami naturally operate in the world of Limbo.

Aizen no-sold the dimensional sweeper that completely erases anything it touches out of existence and laughed while doing it. You can’t even be around Aizen without a certain level of spiritual pressure because you’ll just explode and die.

Limbo means NOTHING to high tier Bleach foes. Susanoo means nothing. Lille just points at Madara and Susanoo is completely broken, no defense matters.

Again, there is absolutely nothing Madara can do against the likes of Barragan. One shot of Respira and it’s game over for 99% of the Naruto-verse because it can’t really blocked and they’re not ancient like Shinigami.

I really wish they showed the last arc of Bleach ON TV because cats really don’t understand how broken high tier Bleach characters are. Gremmy teleports Madara into space and then nukes the rest of them.

I don't know anything about the Quincies nor are we talking about them. Aizen cannot see or sense Limbo in any way. You must have six path sage mode to hit them and the rinnegan to see them.
Naruto Databook: Perceiving this phantom is impossible, the enemies unpreparedness invites disaster.
A person who possesses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distant world. In that space, a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the jutsu user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counterattack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy

As you could see Limbo is just the name not where the shadows operate. It is impossible for Aizen's team to sense and hit them. You're also underrating TSBs. They can nullify anything that doesn't have sage chakra and disintegrate targets faster than dust release. Respira would not affect Madara because he's immortal and yes TSB can nullify it because it doesn't have sage chakra.
But it wouldn't even reach Madara because a Limbo clone would kill him before he could transform. Madara's Limbo could just start infinite Tsukuyomi and all of Aizen's team would be under perfect hypnosis for eternity.
 

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This shyt has been debated for years on nearly every major forum & platform with the only constant being there's no definitive solution.

Personally, I think the answer is clear and everyone else is struggling with the weight of the reality aka shikai. :MJ100_:


I really don't see how this shyt is even a debate. I read Bleach and Naruto straight through to their respective ends...


The power scaling in Bleach is just :damn:

Only a few high tier characters in Naruto are ever getting even anywhere near that shyt...
 

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I really don't see how this shyt is even a debate. I read Bleach and Naruto straight through to their respective ends...


The power scaling in Bleach is just :damn:

Only a few high tier characters in Naruto are ever getting even anywhere near that shyt...
I remember when kakashi got exposed by pein, he never been same after that even sasgay start disrespecting him. Its no way Naruto characters touching soul reapers :scust:
 

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The mere fact that cats are arguing that a clan of ninjas can even stand in the presence of Shinagamis (aka Death Gods) is crazy let alone the most powerful one and Captain that completely washed all said Death Gods effortlessly and created his own click (Espada) in another world (Heuco Mundo) to kill time and threw them away like trash when he got tired of them who could easily wash everyone in the Narutoverse. But..but..but..Rinnnengan :mjlol:

Aizen is not impressed.
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The mere fact that cats are arguing that a clan of ninjas can even stand in the presence of Shinagamis (aka Death Gods) is crazy let alone the most powerful one and Captain that completely washed all said Death Gods effortlessly and created his own click (Espada) in another world (Heuco Mundo) to kill time and threw them away like trash when he got tired of them who could easily wash everyone in the Narutoverse. But..but..but..Rinnnengan :mjlol:

Aizen is not impressed.
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Enslave a king and don't even give him the #1 spot on the roster :russell:

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Aizen is just a broken character bruh he makes this whole battle meaningless
the one punch man of villains
 

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Brehs are forgetting who Madara is. I repeat he washes all of Aizen's team by himself. Unlike Aizen, Madara has shown the ability to destroy planets easily. He used infinite Tsukuyomi and made a giant tree that encompasses the entire planet as well

as making meteors that were larger than the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs and he even called his meteors raindrops. Madara is also way faster than Aizen and his weak hypnosis ability is laughable compared to Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Aizen has no answer to Limbo. How can he defeat someone he can't touch or see? Aizen can't defend himself from Madara's TSBs that disintegrate anything they touch and nullify all attacks making them the best offence and defence.
 
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