ALL TIME....THE HEART BREAK KID SHAWN MICHAELS...or the MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE...REAL simple

[Art Barr]

Shawn Michaels is better than the Macho Man and I hate it because I'm a huge Macho Man fan. A lot of cats want to forget the Macho Man during his last years in WCW, post-DDP feud. It. was. some. shyt.

wwf stole all of macho's spot in sports entertainment, note for note.
when, macho came back with george and mona, though.

plus, macho was an expert in the sports entertainment realm.
on a level that hbk never was ever close to.

not to mention, sherry was never able to catapult hbk anywhere near macho.
when, macho was with sherry and had a purposefully sabotage draw from the wwf brass to contend with.
macho created the gateway for sherry to elevate shawn eventually.
of which hbk was able to us as a springboard.

hbk in return never elevated anyone in the wwf on that level, at all.
you can't even say scsa.
as scsa was more attached to the spectacle and ringsports draw of tyson at mania xiv.
plus, needed austin's rub in tag's to get over to even feud with austin.
of which no one ever would have thought.
by perception that michaels should go over austin, at the big one EVER.
maybe politically michaels could have politic'd and fooled his buds for a mania duke.
yet, it does not make it anywhere remotely near the correct booking decision.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

Fame he got the World Title in 92 OVER Ric Flair What is you saying. Who DIDNT get shytted on by the NWO angle, shyt was the biggest thing since Hulk beat The Giant. And guess what HE BEAT THE TAKER FOR THE fukkING WC BELT.





STOP IT FAM. you acting like that nikka was the Brooklyn Brawler or some shyt FOH.

he got the rub over flair, because that was vince's plan.
to try to devalue the nwa/wcw and give false rub to bret by going over flair.
yet, there is a reason why that city has a nickname connected to this booking decision, too.


art barr

 

[thenatural]

wwf stole all of macho's spot in sports entertainment, note for note.
when, macho came back with george and mona, though.

plus, macho was an expert in the sports entertainment realm.
on a level that hbk never was ever close to.

not to mention, sherry was never able to catapult hbk anywhere near macho.
when, macho was with sherry and had a purposefully sabotage draw from the wwf brass to contend with.
macho created the gateway for sherry to elevate shawn eventually.
of which hbk was able to us as a springboard.

hbk in return never elevated anyone in the wwf on that level, at all.
you can't even say scsa.
as scsa was more attached to the spectacle and ringsports draw of tyson at mania xiv.
plus, needed austin's rub in tag's to get over to even feud with austin.
of which no one ever would have thought.
by perception that michaels should go over austin, at the big one EVER.
maybe politically michaels could have politic'd and fooled his buds for a mania duke.
yet, it does not make it anywhere remotely near the correct booking decision.



art barr

Pro wrestling in 1992 wasn't on the level of pro wrestling in 1989, and that's not due to the "Macho Man" Randy Savge or Shawn Michaels. So using the Sherry comparison doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Art Barr]

I can't believe this poll. HBK's in ring ability is second to none


He had more classic matches than Savage, and Savage was wasted in WCW.

hbk did not have more classic matches than macho man.
macho was in the template, of which would become how the modern five star match was given its markings.

hbk, has nowhere near that type of match on his resume


art barr

 

[GunRanger]

hbk did not have more classic matches than macho man.
macho was in the template, of which would become how the modern five star match was given its markings.

hbk, has nowhere near that type of match on his resume


art barr

HBK-Razor ladder match and HBK v Take WM 25 > any Macho match


I recently watched that ladder match again on Netflix, in FULL, and it's just a great piece of entertainment. Paced well, and it flows.

 

[Wacky D]

@Art Barr came thru with the go-home boy.

nikka you crazy, Macho man NEVER was a 1# in the WWE. stop it.

thats cuz hogan & warrior were in the way.

all eras arent created equal.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

hbk did not have more classic matches than macho man.
macho was in the template, of which would become how the modern five star match was given its markings.

hbk, has nowhere near that type of match on his resume


art barr

You might be the greatest poster ever, but you aint gonna sit here and shyt on bret hart and shawn michaels like they werent literally 1A during there prime.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

@Art Barr came thru with the go-home boy.







thats cuz hogan & warrior were in the way.

all eras arent created equal.

OK fine. nikka is 2nd tier great like I've a thousand time in this post. He's not above Bret or Shaun. thats is crazy talk.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

he got the rub over flair, because that was vince's plan.
to try to devalue the nwa/wcw and give false rub to bret by going over flair.
yet, there is a reason why that city has a nickname connected to this booking decision, too.


art barr

So the crowd reacted like that for someone who hadn't wrestled for the wwf in a year Why? Stop it.

 

[Art Barr]

HBK-Razor ladder match and HBK v Take WM 25 > any Macho match


I recently watched that ladder match again on Netflix, in FULL, and it's just a great piece of entertainment. Paced well, and it flows.

NO,..
as the hbk razor match follows and does not really outdo:

bret vs hbk ladder match.
of, which bret had to showcase a stampede damn near original.
which was the ladder match, to the wwf.


hbk vs taker at wm 25 was only a 3 star affair, and a lie as a five star match like hogun vs the rock at mania.

people like the nostalgia and the principle of what occurred.
yet, i never rated that match that high.

people feel justified that keith rated it five stars, but keith is hbk's biggest fan boy, as well.
which is keith's only knock as he plays favorites to hbk.
especially, after benoit killed himself.


also,....in that keith will and has said publically himself.
that the steamboat vs macho mania iii match is domestically the rubrick and most important domestic workrate match in modern wrasslin history, too.


art barr

 

[GunRanger]

Taker-HBK shyts all over Rock-Hollywood. The only reason the latter is great, is because of the crowd and the Hulk up. It's a bore otherwise. The former is entertaining all the way through, from the comedy (HBK hoping Taker gets counted out) to the drama (the false finishes).


Not even going to comment on the difference between the Razor and Hart ladder matches. It's not anywhere near as entertaining. Even the distraction from Sherri isn't anywhere as good, or funny, as Diesel's. Diesel was hilarious

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

ryback was/is better in the ring than warrior

 

[Art Barr]

Taker-HBK shyts all over Rock-Hollywood. The only reason the latter is great, is because of the crowd and the Hulk up. It's a bore otherwise. The former is entertaining all the way through, from the comedy (HBK hoping Taker gets counted out) to the drama (the false finishes).

which is built off the character mechanics of hbk, and a book that holds no prejuidice.
plus, the fact that taker was still way more capable of a worker than hbk.
both, are nostalgia bits and grossly overrated.



art barr

 

[Art Barr]

So the crowd reacted like that for someone who hadn't wrestled for the wwf in a year Why? Stop it.

lol, at you talembout a promotion that was grasping at straws.
till wrasslin's high quality rate draw, in the other promotion.
provided them the attention and rub of the higher quality promotion.
which the wwf needed because of its neutered product and workrate in general in the promotion.

lol, at you thinking that bret was better than anyone flair went agianst in the nwa at that time.
bret, was a benefactor of mania as its top heel workrate before savage.

yet, savage came in and became the number one heel and never was EVER, in bret's shadow.
hbk, evne after this...
never EVER was close to savage at his height and neither was bret.
even when bret was technically the number one heel in tags with the hart foundation.
he still never was close to savage coming in from memphis.
plus, once savage debuted..
he instantly was on a rocket that overshadowed anything bret was doing with dynamite to hold the bulldogs/harts foudnation together.

in that time,..i could say that savage could rival dynamite.
while, it was obvious hart was still dynamite's lesser skilled understudy, in every facet possible.
also, hbk was never on bret's and dynamite's level, either.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

don't forget this too.



i would rather choose to look at hbk's career in a more positive light than you do, but one thing cannot be denied... he was completely outclassed here. dude not even know what to say.

i know hbk is a legend and an all time great, but on that night he was chopped down to size.

then, nikkaz think hbk can even think about hanging with savage inring.
from moveset to workrate and on the mic.

nikka: NO!!

if not for savage,..
there is no sherry to give rub to hbk to get over.
so, how in the fukk does hbk get over.
without principals that savage amplified.
as a matter of fact, without flair or savage..
hbk ain't getting nowhere.
as both were with sherry, and both amplified sherry to the point that it was hbk's rub.
when, hbk was with the rocknroll ripoff gimmick.
yet, failed in tags to ever create a credible workrate or over feud.
yet, savage was a demon in memphis in singles and tags.

man, nikka..y'all hbk supporters be tweaking.



art barr