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In addition to the post above, homogeneous societies aren’t burdened by the belief that their(cac) taxes are being used to benefit someone else(nikkas).

In America you even go as far as to say cacs feel they don’t benefit from increased taxation and that it’s sole purpose is to prop up lazy negroes.

This thinking doesn’t exist in hemogenous countries.

No nation faces the social and political challenges America faces so making side by side comparisons silly, as if they do is silly.
This is all conjecture with 0 proof.
 

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Because a nationally mandated health and education system is usually standardized. When you have a small homogeneous country this is easier because most of the people are similar in background and genetic makeup.

In the united states this doesn't work because the educational needs of someone in a coastal big city is usually different than the needs of someone in a rural area.

Same with medical. Black people have different needs than Latinos and whites. We suffer from different conditions and diseases. So do we get allocated more money for sickle cell and heart disease. You see how people act when we advocate for things for ourselves is that going to fly?

Those problems exist in the current paradigm. We're talking about a relative comparison to Capitalism, not just general issues you need to address in a heterogeneous population. To elaborate, do you feel in this current system that funding is being allocated properly for the ailments that affect certain demographics? Same with education, is our current education model working to address the needs of different populations in your opinion?

Also, I think it's fair to point out how crucial NIH (government) funding is to discovery in the medical research field. The government is already leading the way in funding discoveries on new FDA approved drugs and treatments

Article with simplified explanation: NIH Funding Behind All New Drug Approvals by FDA from 2010-2016

Cited source from article: Contribution of NIH funding to new drug approvals 2010–2016

And we're not even talking about cost. They got people gassed up talking about billionaires will pay with their taxes, but I haven't seen a proposal yet that would generate that kind of revenue without tax increases across the board. I'd be willing to pay more for my family, but quite frankly I don't wanna pay 50 to 60 percent taxes so nikkas like @Ya' Cousin Cleon can sit on his ass all day getting finger blasted on his girl's couch.

This is a bit of a non-sequitur because my inquiry was about why homogeneity is implied to be a requirement for Socialism to function but not Capitalism. So I'm gonna circle back to comparing the current system to a proposed "Socialist solution." On Medicare 4 All and again, comparing it to the current system, we can point to the Mercatus Study which had no reason to be positive about Bernie's M4A plan but still found it to project a cheaper overall cost to Americans than the current system. Yes, the cost shifts from being taken out of your paycheck by your employer to taken out of your paycheck via a tax but the actual net costs look cheaper shifting to a socialist system. So if we're debating based on cost, M4A actually has the edge and again, none of this relates to the homogeneity argument which is really where I'd like to focus since costs depend on each proposal's model (for example I hate Andrew Yang's UBI model but I'm open to other versions being proposed and would have to look into each more deeply before I came away with a real idea of what the costs vs benefits would be).
 

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In addition to the post above, homogeneous societies aren’t burdened by the belief that their(cac) taxes are being used to benefit someone else(nikkas).

In America you even go as far as to say cacs feel they don’t benefit from increased taxation and that it’s sole purpose is to prop up lazy negroes.

This thinking doesn’t exist in hemogenous countries.

No nation faces the social and political challenges America faces so making side by side comparisons silly, as if they do is silly.

So just to clarify, the negative here is that those additional benefits will lead to stereotyping from white demographics toward minorities? Not anything that actually represents worse outcomes for the population? Because my argument would be that the positive impacts and a broader use of the benefits (everyone would be experiencing the same system) would lead to broader acceptance and understanding of the benefits themselves. For example, the Medicare Expansion has been the keep aspect stopping the GOP from just outright repealing the ACA. I don't want to be overly reductionist for the sake of a gotcha but "universal programs will lead to more racism" seems to be where this is leading which I don't particularly agree with...racists are racist now, they don't need that excuse.
 

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It doesn't work in the US based on what? We never tried it.

I think difficult is the better word

Again I'm not even totally against it. But as someone who has seen first hand the amount of fraud and lack of oversight that comes with a blank government check (medicare) I'm wary of any such system until the details are explicitly laid out.

That's how any person should be with their money
 

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there's more agency under actual socialism and a withering away of the power dynamics installed by the capitalist order, the ruling class is either overthrown or ruled by the working class, which isn't the case in the Scandinavian countries

servethepeople: Democratic Socialism is Capitalism Pt. 1

Ok. That's what I thought was going on. This isn't Democratic Socialism. You and that article are talking about Social Democracy. They're not the same.
 

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Lmfao, oooooh yeah!!!

Watching her turnt up after taking another L on her stupid idea made my day. Doesn't even have a full Bill get and after bragging all these months even her own was like pass

Saw this earlier and just waited to see someone mention it
 

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New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has accepted a Republican colleague’s invitation to tour a Kentucky coal mine in order to see how her Green New Deal could affect the industry, saying: “We have to plan a future for all of our communities, no matter what.”


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Ocasio-Cortez accepts GOP lawmaker's invitation to tour Kentucky coal mine
“It’s very close to my heart,” Ocasio-Cortez said of struggling areas of Appalachia. “Folks may not think of that because I’m from the Bronx, but my family in Puerto Rico was a rural family too. I understand some of the challenges.”
 

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New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has accepted a Republican colleague’s invitation to tour a Kentucky coal mine in order to see how her Green New Deal could affect the industry, saying: “We have to plan a future for all of our communities, no matter what.”


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Ocasio-Cortez accepts GOP lawmaker's invitation to tour Kentucky coal mine
“It’s very close to my heart,” Ocasio-Cortez said of struggling areas of Appalachia. “Folks may not think of that because I’m from the Bronx, but my family in Puerto Rico was a rural family too. I understand some of the challenges.”


Lol@this

My family in Puerto Rico was a rural family too, I understand some of the challenges


You aren't saying close down farms you dumb ass ! The funny thing is the cockiness she comes at us with when she hasn't even filled in the colors
 
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