Alert: NY Assembly Voting to Give Vaccines to Minors Without Parental Permission

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I thought you were done...your CDC info...isnt from doctors but from the CDC.

are you fukcing retarded..where do you think they get htier info from?? they have access to hospital records etc...you don't get data from doctors you idiot...do you ever go to a doctor and be like "hey breh..whats the mortality rate for pertussis" THEY DONT KNOW..but HOSPITALS KNOW... :bryan::bryan::bryan: pathetic
 
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man your getting more and more retarded per post bahahhaha


1.Clinical presentation of pertussis in fully immunized children in Lithuania

Bordetella Pertussis infections in vaccinate... [Clin Infect Dis. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

here's two peer reviewed journals in a controled environment that observes symptoms of people infected with pertussis

"Unvaccinated children more frequently presented the full spectrum of classical pertussis symptoms than vaccinated children. German study [9] has shown that 90.2% of unvaccinated patients (mean age 4.3 years) had paroxysmal cough, 78.9% whooping and 53.3% post-tussive vomiting. The frequency of paroxysmal cough in fully vaccinated children (median age 11 years) in our study was similar (84.4%), but post-tussive vomiting and whooping was more rare (accordingly 31.3% and 28.2%). Only one 11 years old patient had apnea. The results of our study coincide to those reported from Canada [21]. Of the 103 immunized children (< 5 years of age), 68% developed paroxysmal cough within the first week of their illness and 88% had persistent paroxysmal cough for more than three weeks. Cough generally lasted 16&#8211;91 days (median 48). A recent study conducted in Israel [10] has documented the clinical manifestation of pertussis in previously immunized children and young adults (median age 9 years). 21% of the patients had paroxysmal cough, 13% showed post-tussive vomiting, 7% apnea and 6% had classic whoop. The classical symptoms of our studied patients therefore were more frequent compared with Israeli patients. However, we should also take into account other fully vaccinated children who had mild pertussis, but were not referred to the hospital and were not recruited in our study."

oh damn breh...did you read that?? there are also many vaccinated children with pertussis that don't need to go to the hospital :steviej:

" It is known that vaccine-induced immunity wanes and after 5&#8211;10 years makes the vaccinated host vulnerable to infection " oh this too..shows that many adults are succeptible to getting pertussis even though they had shots as a kid because vaccine becomes less effective as you grow..thats why they have adult booster shots..

2. Doctors right...like Dentist David Kennedy right..he's defly an expert in vaccinations BAHAHAHHAHAHA :bryan::bryan: .. you always have crazy scientist in every field..some scientist believe in creationism...so a few scientist opinions > 99.9999 % of scientist

3." I said the babies immune systems are already weak( the weakest they can be ) and yet people want to introduce an outside agent that the body doesn't recognize in it's natural state. " - kingsmen

and i asked you for evidence of why this ouside agents are bad for babies....

4. http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/index.php/whooping-cough-epidemic/

Historically controlled infections, like whooping cough, have the potential to make a comeback. There is a certain amount of complacence today toward diseases that are thought to be largely a thing of the past. However we are now experiencing a resurgence of some of these diseases, like whooping cough, and while the causes are complex and need to be teased apart, they are worsened by vaccine refusal which in turn is spawned by an anti-vaccine movement that is spreading misinformation and unwarranted fears.

5.ummm remind me of how i lost hte polio argument :russ:
 
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are you fukcing retarded..where do you think they get htier info from?? they have access to hospital records etc...you don't get data from doctors you idiot...do you ever go to a doctor and be like "hey breh..whats the mortality rate for pertussis" THEY DONT KNOW..but HOSPITALS KNOW... :bryan::bryan::bryan: pathetic

What is pathetic is to think CDC doesn't manipulate the records it so called claims. Same CDC who...

Scandals...

CDC Implicated In FEMA Scandal - CBS News Video

CFIDS

CDC official, boyfriend charged with molesting child | www.wsbtv.com



Misleading info...


http://www.whale.to/vaccine/madsen2003.pdf


Efficacy and effectiveness of influenza vaccines: a systematic review and meta-analysis : The Lancet Infectious Diseases


Son you stay losing b.
 
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um what does the actions of a few CDC employes have to do with our argument..like i said..i'm bringing you preer reviewed journals and you can't say nothing...i actually stopped getting CDC sources so you don't put on your tinfoil ..so let me get this straight..if an employee of sony molest a kid..that makes sony a corrupt organization right?? BAHAHAHAHHA KINGSMEN LOGIC ...your actually worst then some of this hood c00ns I argue with bahhaha

"esults. A total of 956 children with a male-to-female
ratio of 3.5:1 had been diagnosed with autism during the
period from 1971&#8211;2000. There was no trend toward an
increase in the incidence of autism during that period
when thimerosal was used in Denmark, up through 1990.
From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines,
including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal.
Conclusions. The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an
increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data
do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism. Pediatrics 2003;
112:604&#8211;606; autism, vaccine, thimerosal, mercury
, pop"

umm why are you posting science articles that state that autism and vaccination have zero rellation BAHAHHA

"stay losin b" um how am i losing..you can't counter argue me..and you're not answering my questions..your just bringing a bunch of random retarded articles with no relation to our discussion :why:
 

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People who approve of this dont check what's in these "vaccines" and their side effects. Allowing to give "vaccines" to kids w/o parent permission is :wow:...

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man your getting more and more retarded per post bahahhaha


1.Clinical presentation of pertussis in fully immunized children in Lithuania

:wtb: Lithuania....is this your core argument....one country?




Bordetella Pertussis infections in vaccinate... [Clin Infect Dis. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

here's two peer reviewed journals in a controlled environment that observes symptoms of people infected with pertussis.

If you read the last peer review...people were vaccinated...one with a special vaccine and other group with another special vaccine. Proved nothing of sick un-vaccinated people.




"Unvaccinated children more frequently presented the full spectrum of classical pertussis symptoms than vaccinated children. German study [9] has shown that 90.2% of unvaccinated patients (mean age 4.3 years) had paroxysmal cough, 78.9% whooping and 53.3% post-tussive vomiting. The frequency of paroxysmal cough in fully vaccinated children (median age 11 years) in our study was similar (84.4%), but post-tussive vomiting and whooping was more rare (accordingly 31.3% and 28.2%). Only one 11 years old patient had apnea. The results of our study coincide to those reported from Canada [21]. Of the 103 immunized children (< 5 years of age), 68% developed paroxysmal cough within the first week of their illness and 88% had persistent paroxysmal cough for more than three weeks. Cough generally lasted 16–91 days (median 48). A recent study conducted in Israel [10] has documented the clinical manifestation of pertussis in previously immunized children and young adults (median age 9 years). 21% of the patients had paroxysmal cough, 13% showed post-tussive vomiting, 7% apnea and 6% had classic whoop. The classical symptoms of our studied patients therefore were more frequent compared with Israeli patients. However, we should also take into account other fully vaccinated children who had mild pertussis, but were not referred to the hospital and were not recruited in our study."

Full vaccinated children weren't even apart of the study....another failed argument. You test the un-vaccinated children and then claim.."See only non-vaccinated children get it". :snoop:


oh damn breh...did you read that?? there are also many vaccinated children with pertussis that don't need to go to the hospital :steviej:

Why have the study if you don't include the both groups?



" It is known that vaccine-induced immunity wanes and after 5–10 years makes the vaccinated host vulnerable to infection " oh this too..shows that many adults are succeptible to getting pertussis even though they had shots as a kid because vaccine becomes less effective as you grow..thats why they have adult booster shots..

Booster shots....do what? Show the charts, graphs. Oh that's right they change nothing...




2. Doctors right...like Dentist David Kennedy right..he's defly an expert in vaccinations BAHAHAHHAHAHA :bryan::bryan: .. you always have crazy scientist in every field..some scientist believe in creationism...so a few scientist opinions > 99.9999 % of scientist

Crazy scientist in every field b/c he gave an honest opinion and didn't fit your agenda. You brought in Magicians as your proof of vaccines remember? :sadbron:




3." I said the babies immune systems are already weak( the weakest they can be ) and yet people want to introduce an outside agent that the body doesn't recognize in it's natural state. " - kingsmen

and i asked you for evidence of why this ouside agents are bad for babies....

Gave you that info already....it was in the post before which you failed to look at.



4. Science-Based Medicine » Whooping Cough Epidemic

Historically controlled infections, like whooping cough, have the potential to make a comeback. There is a certain amount of complacence today toward diseases that are thought to be largely a thing of the past. However we are now experiencing a resurgence of some of these diseases, like whooping cough, and while the causes are complex and need to be teased apart, they are worsened by vaccine refusal which in turn is spawned by an anti-vaccine movement that is spreading misinformation and unwarranted fears.

The Flu comes and goes....the winter comes and goes...but so do opinions and not facts about vaccines. This proves my assumption right....




5.ummm remind me of how i lost hte polio argument :russ:

Sanitation, clean water...clean food but you jumped to this...i don't want you to lose what you have gotten better at.
 
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1. so what if its in lithuania..so your saying a child in some other country will have different symtoms from another country?? so your saying diseases treat others differently from other countries?? :heh::heh:

2. READ CAREFULLY .. IT SAYS MILD PERTUSSIS were not included.. MILD DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS...?? vaccinated children still had serious pertussis infections

3. magicians wtf are you taking abou..you mean the vast majority of pediatricians are magicians :what: ?? YOU BROUGHT THE DENTIST IN THE VACCINATION DEBATE BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

4. ...:snoop: did you not read? it says effectiveness of pertussis vaccines wanes in 10 years...which is why a booster shot is need in adulthood..here kingsmen you fukcing idiot.. " booster dose is an extra administration of a vaccine after an earlier dose. After initial immunization, a booster injection or booster dose is a re-exposure to the immunizing antigen cell. It is intended to increase immunity against that antigen back to protective levels after it has been shown to have decreased or after a specified period. For example, tetanus shot boosters are often recommended every 10 years." and why do i need to explain to you how vaccines work..i already explained it already..anti gens are introduced to the body where our anti bodies will recognize thus making it easier for white blood cells to attack infections...like if you said " TV is the work of the devil .. SHOW ME GRAPHS NOW" like wtf? why do i need to explain you how a tv works bahahha

5. can you please repost for me please which one was it??

7. "flue comes and goes..." because the influenza virus mutates more frequently then the pertussis bacteria...i don't get what your trying to imply with this argument..why are you relating pertussis with influenza..two totally differnt diseases LMAO...

8. ummm your polio argument was retarded..remember " WHY CANT WE HAVE BOTH" bahahha you fail...you still attack me with your strawmans..i was never anti-sanitation and healthy lifestyle bahahah and you never came back on me with that..you just skipped to other bullshyt arguments bahahahha oh rmb how you were trying to relate muslim terrorism vs left wing terrorism in our debate
 
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thekingsidiot I'm still waiting for you to take me up on my sylvan learning center offer

BAHAHAHA nikka was like CDC IS nOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE COZ SOME NIKKA WHO WORKED FOR THEM MOLESTED SOME KID BAHAHAHHA :russ::russ::russ::russ::lolbron::lolbron::lolbron::lolbron:
 

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