Alert: NY Assembly Voting to Give Vaccines to Minors Without Parental Permission

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1. um how is the math faulty..its clear..vaccinated children have a lower chance of getting pertussis..

2. what outside agenda..like i said give me evidence of how it lowers the babies immune system..like how does dead virial and bacterial anti-gen components hurt babies immune system..please i want to know your crazy beliefs..

3.took me literally 30 seconds to reply to you breh
 
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like i said more philosophical moral bull shyt on your part..you can't back your arguments with fact so you're trying to hop on your moral high ground..i've seen a healthy person who eats all organic and works out regularly catch pertussis and its not a pretty sight seeing that nikka cough his lungs out

I seen a vaccinated man die from not taking care of himself. Your point?
 
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I seen a vaccinated man die from not taking care of himself. Your point?

um are you fukking retarded... I NEVER SAID ITS WRONG TO LIVE A HEALTHY LIFE STYLE...IM SAYING ITS AS IMPORTANT AS PREVENTION..WHY CANT WE HAVE BOTH..your strawmans are hilarious...you're trying to label me a anti-healthy life style advocate which i never said..nice try troll bahahhaha

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1. um how is the math faulty..its clear..vaccinated children have a lower chance of getting pertussis..


:rudy: the website is clearly bias and created up a made up argument to fit an agenda.





3.took me literally 30 seconds to reply to you breh

Im sorry Im listening to music, and on another site while responding...:umad:
 
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no it doesn't its hard facts and maths..and fit what agenda...that website looks independently run... i bet they're getting bags of cash from the pharma industry right!??? :lolbron:

2. still wating for your explanation of how virial and bacterial antigens harm children immune systems

3. :ducktales:
 

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no it doesn't its hard facts and maths..and fit what agenda...that website looks independently run... i bet they're getting bags of cash from the pharma industry right!??? :lolbron:

2. still wating for your explanation of how virial and bacterial antigens harm children immune systems

3. :ducktales:

1. You are upset at me for showing the OP about parent consent in children's vaccinations when children need decisions made by parents.

2. You are upset that the whooping cough was found in the vaccinated children which basically said the vaccine failed to prevent. You went on and gave me some stupid link that made up it's own version of what the vaccines said which is still wrong. Prevention never happened for the vaccinated kids...in the links.

3. Indy run is suppose to better? . Disinfo is used everywhere since companies and countries pay bloggers and some indy websites to push the agenda of Big Pharma or Big Business, War, etc.

4. Btw...who said I mentioned anything about the vaccines weaker the babies immune system? I said the babies immune systems are already weak( the weakest they can be ) and yet people want to introduce an outside agent that the body doesn't recognize in it's natural state.

but there is many things here to discuss...i'll be back for that...
 
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1. You are upset at me for showing the OP about parent consent in children's vaccinations when children need decisions made by parents.

2. You are upset that the whooping cough was found in the vaccinated children which basically said the vaccine failed to prevent. You went on and gave me some stupid link that made up it's own version of what the vaccines said which is still wrong. Prevention never happened for the vaccinated kids...in the links.

3. Indy run is suppose to better? . Disinfo is used everywhere since companies and countries pay bloggers and some indy websites to push the agenda of Big Pharma or Big Business, War, etc.

4. Btw...who said I mentioned anything about the vaccines weaker the babies immune system? I said the babies immune systems are already weak( the weakest they can be ) and yet people want to introduce an outside agent that the body doesn't recognize in it's natural state.

but there is many things here to discuss...i'll be back for that...

1. TBH..i couldn't really give a shyt if parents didn't want to vaccinate their kids..they should have the right to endanger their kids..like you kingsmen :russ:

2."Investigation of the Washington epidemic demonstrates multiple B. pertussis strains causing infection, primarily in vaccinated persons. Given the high transmissibility of B. pertussis, a proportion of vaccinated persons remains susceptible and can become infected during a pertussis outbreak. Unvaccinated children have at least an eightfold greater risk for pertussis than children fully vaccinated with DTaP (7). However, because in most of the cases the patients were vaccinated, the 4.5% of Washington school children who were exempted from vaccination during 2011–2012 represented only a small proportion of those at risk for pertussis in the state. Although vaccinated children can develop pertussis, they are less infectious, have milder symptoms and shorter illness duration, and are at reduced risk for severe outcomes, including hospitalization (8–10)."

"The ongoing pertussis epidemic in Washington reflects the evolving epidemiology of pertussis in the United States. Although acellular pertussis vaccines provide excellent short-term protection, early waning of immunity might be contributing to increasing population-level susceptibility. Nevertheless, vaccination continues to be the single most effective strategy to reduce morbidity and mortality caused by pertussis. Vaccination of pregnant women and contacts of infants is recommended to protect infants too young to be vaccinated. In light of the increased incidence of pertussis in Washington and elsewhere, efforts should focus on full implementation of DTaP and Tdap recommendations to prevent infection and protect infants."
SOURCE: THE CDC

TLDR FOR THEKINGSMEN AKA I DONT HAVE MY HAVE MY SCIENCE CREDIT YET: The recent outbreak can be attributed to a new strain that is vaccine ressistant..however unvaccinated children have a 8 times greater chance of getting pertusiss..PLUS VACCINATED CHILDREN HAVE LESS INTENSE SYMPTONS AND INFECTIONS..like i said .. vaccines aren't perfect...such as seat belts..condoms..bullet proof vest..air bags...there's always flaws..but lol at you trying to throw these safety measures in the bushes..Kingsmen : " OH WHAT NOT100% EFFECTIVE?? fukk IT THEN JUST LIVE HEALRHY AND YOU GOOOD BREHHH" BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

New Strain Of Whooping Cough Resistant Of Current Vaccine « CBS Philly

3. Okay...you made this even easier for me.. FIND ME PROOF THAT INTRODUCING DEAD VIRIAL AND CELL ANTIGENS CAN HARM A BABY..PLESE PROVIDE PEER REVIEWED STUDY

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this took me literally one minute to answer you back..how does it feel kingsmen??? you're trying to weasel your way and troll your way out of htis one..BUT HOW DOES IT FEEL WHEN IM CONTROLLING YOU :demonic::demonic: :mjpls:

Kingsmen's next post :" U MAD BREH..THIS ISN"T A LEGITIMATE SOURCE THESE SCIENTIST WHO HAVE THEIR PHDS ARE PAID OFF BY ILLUMINATI U MAD BREH HERE'S PROOF OF WHAT IM SAYING..*brings out naturalnews" BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
 
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1. TBH..i couldn't really give a shyt if parents didn't want to vaccinate their kids..they should have the right to endanger their kids..like you kingsmen :russ:

You wouldn't be in my thread if you didn't care. You do.




2."Investigation of the Washington epidemic demonstrates multiple B. pertussis strains causing infection, primarily in vaccinated persons. Given the high transmissibility of B. pertussis, a proportion of vaccinated persons remains susceptible and can become infected during a pertussis outbreak. Unvaccinated children have at least an eightfold greater risk for pertussis than children fully vaccinated with DTaP (7). However, because in most of the cases the patients were vaccinated, the 4.5% of Washington school children who were exempted from vaccination during 2011–2012 represented only a small proportion of those at risk for pertussis in the state. Although vaccinated children can develop pertussis, they are less infectious, have milder symptoms and shorter illness duration, and are at reduced risk for severe outcomes, including hospitalization (8–10)."

Ok...how do those who didn't get vaccinated create a greater risk when the vaccine was obsolete to those who got it? That isn't said in this article because there is no proof of an explaination...whatsoever. None. It's the same ol "Oh Vaccinated Children will get less from the outbreak because they followed what the CDC said to do". That isn't scientific proof, it's an opinion.


"The ongoing pertussis epidemic in Washington reflects the evolving epidemiology of pertussis in the United States. Although acellular pertussis vaccines provide excellent short-term protection, early waning of immunity might be contributing to increasing population-level susceptibility. Nevertheless, vaccination continues to be the single most effective strategy to reduce morbidity and mortality caused by pertussis. Vaccination of pregnant women and contacts of infants is recommended to protect infants too young to be vaccinated. In light of the increased incidence of pertussis in Washington and elsewhere, efforts should focus on full implementation of DTaP and Tdap recommendations to prevent infection and protect infants."
SOURCE: THE CDC

Epidemic....:rolleyes: sounds like over-hyping what isn't even true. Statements are nice but none show actual evidence of how vaccines control the mortality rate caused by whooping cough. It's a Class C drug which means "Animal reproduction studies have shown an adverse effect on the fetus and there are no adequate and well-controlled studies in humans, but potential benefits may warrant use of the drug in pregnant women despite potential risks" This is coming from the CDC.....:sitdown:

Btw....

Whooping Cough going down in the U.K. before vaccine even came to light

Here is some charts..
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Whooping Cough in the U.S. after the vaccine came to light...

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Another article out of Australia about vaccinating pregnant women with the whooping cough serum.

States ending free parent whooping vaccine | News.com.au

:whew:



TLDR FOR THEKINGSMEN AKA I DONT HAVE MY HAVE MY SCIENCE CREDIT YET: The recent outbreak can be attributed to a new strain that is vaccine ressistant..however unvaccinated children have a 8 times greater chance of getting pertusiss..PLUS VACCINATED CHILDREN HAVE LESS INTENSE SYMPTONS AND INFECTIONS..like i said .. vaccines aren't perfect...such as seat belts..condoms..bullet proof vest..air bags...there's always flaws..but lol at you trying to throw these safety measures in the bushes..Kingsmen : " OH WHAT NOT100% EFFECTIVE?? fukk IT THEN JUST LIVE HEALRHY AND YOU GOOOD BREHHH" BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

Again it's nice to say quotes of who has a greater risk without the actual evidence of this. What I also think is funny is you quoting the CDC who you obviously don't know who is head of it. Dr. Julie Gerberding of CDC is now heading the Merck Big Pharma. The quotes, info and studies....all benefit Big Business...son just admit...the shyt don't work...conflict of interest.



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this took me literally one minute to answer you back..how does it feel kingsmen??? you're trying to weasel your way and troll your way out of htis one..BUT HOW DOES IT FEEL WHEN IM CONTROLLING YOU :demonic::demonic: :mjpls:

I don't troll my threads but come correct when you address me son.



Kingsmen's next post :" U MAD BREH..THIS ISN"T A LEGITIMATE SOURCE THESE SCIENTIST WHO HAVE THEIR PHDS ARE PAID OFF BY ILLUMINATI U MAD BREH HERE'S PROOF OF WHAT IM SAYING..*brings out naturalnews" BAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


1 minute to respond....sounds like you were cold hard pressed to yap without dropping any good info. Next time take your time writing so you can get your point across. You did terrible with the Polio argument, so you switched it to whooping cough. You are doing better but you have a long way to go.
 
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1 minute to respond....sounds like you were cold hard pressed to yap without dropping any good info. Next time take your time writing so you can get your point across. You did terrible with the Polio argument, so you switched it to whooping cough. You are doing better but you have a long way to go.

1. no its not an opinion.. IT IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF..BECAUSE THE DOCTORS CAN OBSERVE THE SYMPTOMS VS VACCINATED CHILDREN VS UNVACCINATED CHILDREN who caught wooping cough...children vaccinated have already identified pertussis antigens even though from a different strain it is easier for the immune system to fight..:snoop: another shytty argument are your part :comeon:

2. so what is from the CDG..oh right i already predicted this argument already...they're paid off by illuminati :duck:
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yep penn and teller get paid off by government...too right? BAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
3. Your english graph doesn't support you .. BECAUSE ITS MORTALITY RATE STUPID...anybody knows that as time goes on ..treating pertusis is easier because.. GET WITH ME HERE KINGSMEN AKA IM A RETARD..TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES..YOU CAN CORRELATE THIS WITH PRACTICALLY ALMOST EVERY DISEASE EXCEPT FOR SOME FEW EXCEPTIONS

4.THE INCREASE OF PERTUSIS IN THE STATES..-> get with me here.. is because of the anti vaxer movement you and your retard celebrity friends aka mccarthy have gaine support and get with me here NEW STRAINS OF PERTUSIS..because bacterias evolve too...

5. as i said why are you bringing up arguments to let parents choose to let their kids get vaccinated or not..i don't care ... if you want to kill your kids thats fine with me...

6. still have not brought evidence of why anti gens harm young children

7.i'm done with you ,,, your unscientific arguments and your strawmens...its done kingsmen aka the colis boka harem's champion..take your L and walk away.. SCIENCE ALWAYS PREVAILS OVER IGNORANCE
 
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oh breh also..i kept trying to find the sources of your graphs..most of them came from anti-vaxer sites bahahha

you want me to bring up graphs too right?

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and this is not mortality rate..its CASES..noticed a steep decline in the 40s?? BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA :russ:
 
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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/hist290_0039.pdf

here breh..historical graphs for pretty much alot of diseases and conditions..not just vaccine preventable disseases..incase you scream " THIS IS FAKE DATA MADE BY ILLUMINATI"...stuff like vascular lesions etc..notice that as time goes on ..doctors are given better tools to treat these diseases as a result death rates go down..but there are always exeptions like vascular disease , cancers etc that are caused by old age, bad human diet , exposure to bad chemicals etccc

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i recommend you finish your science credit breh..you'll learn alot of basic things before you post shyt on this forum bahhaha
 
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1. no its not an opinion.. IT IS SCIENTIFIC PROOF..BECAUSE THE DOCTORS CAN OBSERVE THE SYMPTOMS VS VACCINATED CHILDREN VS UNVACCINATED CHILDREN who caught wooping cough...children vaccinated have already identified pertussis antigens even though from a different strain it is easier for the immune system to fight..:snoop: another shytty argument are your part :comeon:

Show the evidence....not just saying so.






2. so what is from the CDG..oh right i already predicted this argument already...they're paid off by illuminati :duck:

Showing signs of weak argument here...so you attack instead of looking at the info above...disproving the things you said.





Penn and Teller - Vaccinations (Full Episode) - YouTube

So Im suppose to believe Atheist Magicians on what is true and what is not. First...majorities of atheist hate organized religion for it's manipulation of man but follow word for word political figures and every word that comes out Government officials mouths without a peep of questioning. Hypocritical...:yes:

If I wanted some real info on vaccines you should've had a better example.



yep penn and teller get paid off by government...too right? BAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
3. Your english graph doesn't support you .. BECAUSE ITS MORTALITY RATE STUPID...anybody knows that as time goes on ..treating pertusis is easier because.. GET WITH ME HERE KINGSMEN AKA IM A RETARD..TECHNOLOGY IMPROVES..YOU CAN CORRELATE THIS WITH PRACTICALLY ALMOST EVERY DISEASE EXCEPT FOR SOME FEW EXCEPTIONS

I get my info from Doctors... like this...not magicians..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCgkfKlPZYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWUbdTPPR4



The Vaccine showed up late homie....deaths were down by the time your treatment came.



4.THE INCREASE OF PERTUSIS IN THE STATES..-> get with me here.. is because of the anti vaxer movement you and your retard celebrity friends aka mccarthy have gaine support and get with me here NEW STRAINS OF PERTUSIS..because bacterias evolve too...

Wow you can't debate so you attack....disprove it or go away.



6. still have not brought evidence of why anti gens harm young children

You are asking for something I didn't mention in my argument at all.


7.i'm done with you ,,, your unscientific arguments and your strawmens...its done kingsmen aka the colis boka harem's champion..take your L and walk away.. SCIENCE ALWAYS PREVAILS OVER IGNORANCE

Science from Magicians...:aicmon: Get real kid....your argument on Polio Failed....and now you are giving up your argument b/c the links and info I had discredits your so called science.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsT5EoIk8U
 
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oh breh also..i kept trying to find the sources of your graphs..most of them came from anti-vaxer sites bahahha

you want me to bring up graphs too right?

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and this is not mortality rate..its CASES..noticed a steep decline in the 40s?? BAHAHAHHAHAHAHA :russ:

I thought you were done...your CDC info...isnt from doctors but from the CDC.
 
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