So let me get this straight in your view..
1. Science to you seems important but your logic on science not being debatable is suspect. If there is something questionable in science, it's not to be questioned under your logic, especially since there is a huge opposition ( of scientists and doctors and health professionals) who don't agree with vaccines or the standard of practice. Those people who want further analysis and open debates on science are nutcases.
there is a huge opposition where is this huge opposition
?? You mean like the dentist and jenny mac carthy
bahahaha
This is why your response is becoming more desperate..you can't have a discussion...you are laughing about a opposition to what you claim is good medicine. Too bad you aren't up on anything.
Kingsidiot you need to understand that science is a method
a system
if you believe that vaccines are indeed harmful to people..you need to start your own research and send it in for peer review. Meaning you need to conduct a study..get patience..collect data..analyze the data etc
none of you anti-vaxers have produced any conclusive peer reviwed studies
oh btw rmb those studies you posted?? One of them stated that thiomersal mercury has no correlation to autism .. oh yeah..the god father of the modern day anti-vaxer movement Andrew wakefield forged all his 1998 data and cant site a single real patients name ..
Condescending tones about science and never been in the medical field or taken a medical class.
Andrew Wakefield didn't do a Autism study but the effects of children after a MMR vaccine who were having massive diarrhea and chronic stomach pains. ....but since the courts have been giving the wins to the autistic cases...why wouldn't there be a review on this case? Oh that's right you can't b/c you can't question the report done by one reporter. Even the facts need to be checked but they aren't.
2. You ignored and dismissed the articles of vaccinated children still getting the whooping coughs and the articles stating that the drug has little effect in prevention.
Are you fukking retarded??? Did I mention about the new pertussis strain resistant to vaccination??? YOU DO KNOW MICRO ORGANISMS MUSTATE FAR MORE OFTEN RIGHT??..do you know what mutate means?? kingsidiot Why are the outbreaks in such concentrated places in in California and Washington..if the pertussis vaccine wasnt effective ..there would be a nation wide outbreak..and as I said children vaccinated have less intense symptoms then unvaccinated children
I speaking about the article I posted....stay with here. Your study is just that...it doesn't effect public policy. My article did.
2A. You used studies that didn't have any direct effect on public policy and ignored regions and environments which any scientist would ration in his measure for test.
What the fukk are you talking about?? direct effect on public policy what?? teyrer not epidimeoligist you fukktard..theyre doctors observing symptoms..what does symtoms of a disease have anything to do with public policy or per region
so youre going to tell me polio effects people differently from one continent to a another??
Yes Polio effects are different based off regions of poverty. Again the water and food issue is key here.
3. You have ignored and dismissed the revolving door of CDC and Big Pharma reps looking out for each other as a conspiracy when it's well known the former CDC head is now head of Merck.
Julie Gerberding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Okay what does that have to do with anything?? You do know there have many directors for the CDC who have zero connection to the vaccine industry right?? What does she have to do with raw data collected from hospitals and the peer reviewed studies done by researchers??
Ummm what is it that you don't know about Policy Makers? Congressman who retire jump into being heads of think-tank groups and Lobbyist Corporations. The fact is that you can't see "conflict of interest" nor "Ethics" when working for a organization claiming to uphold the law in defense of American People's interest but always were in the interest of the corporations they cater to. Imagine your job at the CDC making about $300,000 a year but are offered to be head of a corporation that can give you 3 Mil a year. You can stay on the current job with the current administration or you can dip out early. What would you do?
It's not about the directors who aren't involved in the major corporations but the ones that are. Especially over the last 30 Years....
4. You have ignored the vaccines being a category C which means "No adequate human or animal studies, OR adverse fetal effects in animal studies, but no available human data".
"Category C - drugs that are more likely to cause problems for the mother or fetus. Also includes drugs for which safety studies have not been finished. The majority of these drugs do not have safety studies in progress. These drugs often come with a warning that they should be used only if the benefits of taking them outweigh the risks. This is something a woman would need to carefully discuss with her doctor. These drugs include prochlorperzaine (Compazine), Sudafed, fluconazole (Diflucan), and ciprofloxacin (Cipro). Some antidepressants are also included in this group."
Why are you saying all vaccines are category C..that is outright false and shows theres no reason to debate you since all your information are false
I can name you the vaccines that are...C category...
Generally, vaccines that contain inactivated (killed) viruses can be given during pregnancy. Vaccines that contain live viruses aren't recommended for pregnant women.
Two vaccines are routinely recommended during pregnancy:
Influenza (flu) shot. The flu shot is recommended for women who are pregnant during flu season typically November through March. The flu shot is made from an inactivated virus, so it's safe for both you and your baby. Avoid the nasal spray vaccine, which is made from a live virus.
Tetanus toxoid, reduced diphtheria toxoid and acellular pertussis (Tdap) vaccine. One dose of Tdap vaccine is recommended during each pregnancy to offer protection from whooping cough (pertussis), tetanus and diphtheria, regardless of when you had your last Tdap or tetanus-diphtheria (Td) vaccination. Ideally, the vaccine should be given between 27 and 36 weeks of pregnancy. Whooping cough can be dangerous even life-threatening for infants. Getting the Tdap vaccine during pregnancy can help protect you from the infection and might also help protect your baby after birth.
In addition, if you're traveling abroad or you're at increased risk of certain infections, your health care provider may recommend other vaccines during pregnancy such as hepatitis A, hepatitis B, meningococcal or pneumococcal vaccines.
5. You dismiss the dangers in the vaccines when the truth is ...vaccines consist of....
Monosodium glutamate (MSG), Thimerosal, Formaldehyde, Aluminum.
Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet
Dangers of MSG: Discovery Health "The Dangers of Monosodium Glutamate"
Breh my ramen powder noodles have 100X more msg then a vaccine shot..its soooo negligible BAHAHHAHAHAHA
Dangers of Formaldehyde: Formaldehyde and Cancer Risk - National Cancer Institute
Formaldehyde
Formaldehyde may be used early in the manufacturing process to inactivate some viruses and toxins. Purification removes almost all of the formaldehyde. Formaldehyde occurs naturally in the human body and helps with metabolism. There is approximately ten times the amount of formaldehyde in a babys body at any time than there is in a vaccine. More disinformation on your part
So with the 48 vaccines they must take before 6 years old wouldn't attribute to it?...
Dangers of Aluminum: Aluminum as a risk factor for ... [Rev Lat Am Enfermagem. 2008 Jan-Feb] - PubMed - NCBI
Aluminum, the most common metal in nature, is perfectly safe in small amounts. (A dose of antacid has about 1,000 times as much as a vaccine does.) Aluminum salts are used in vaccines to increase antibody response. They make it possible to use less vaccine less often.
Oh shyt breh I guess I need to stop taking TUMS dat aluminum finna kill me
TUMS does fukk up your stomach.
Antacids -- not the anti you think they are
Why Antacids Can Make Your Heartburn Worse - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com
Dangers of Thimerosal: HowStuffWorks "What are the dangers of mercury exposure?"
The only vaccine that uses thimerosal is the influenza vaccine
Mercury, of course, can cause neurological damage. But theres scientific consensus that the amount once used in vaccines around 50 micrograms per 0.5-ml dose was far short of toxic.
Do you know how much 50 micrograms are? Its 1 X 10-6 grams just incase your math skills are like elementary level bahahahha
its soo little that you would get more mercury from eating a can of tuna, or a piece of salmon.
That is the typical reponse...is the fish issue. Eating tuna goes in my stomach first and reaches blood-stream last...the proteins and omega 3-6-9''s get there first in my system. My liver knows how to tell what I need and don't from it's detoxifying abilities. With the vaccinations...it goes straight to the blood-stream by-passing all that.
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7. Dr. OZ doesn't vaccinate his children....hmmm I wonder why?
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Be knowledgeable, though, that the H1N1 swine flu vaccine is built on a chassis of the older original seasonal vaccine. So, it should have similar risks, which have proven to be very low," - Dr OZ..lol more sentionalist media..taken out of context
His job is on the line if he doesn't come up with a conclusion of his explanation. You really think this man would be on tv long for saying "Im not vaccinating my children b/c it's not effective and hurts children". He has to say a quick opinion and change the subject quick.
7A. MMR/Autism Case Wins in U.S. Court...
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and David Kirby: Vaccine Court: Autism Debate Continues
Robert F Kennedy Jnr writing in The Huffington Post reports:-
an explosive investigation by CBS News has found that since 1988, the vaccine court has awarded money judgments, often in the millions of dollars, to thirteen hundred and twenty two families whose children suffered brain damage from vaccines. In many of these cases, the government paid out awards following a judicial finding that vaccine injury lead to the childs autism spectrum disorder. In each of these cases, the plaintiffs attorneys made the same tactical decision made by Bailey Banks lawyer, electing to opt out of the highly charged Omnibus Autism Proceedings and argue their autism cases in the regular vaccine court. In many other successful cases, attorneys elected to steer clear of the hot button autism issue altogether and seek recovery instead for the underlying brain damage that caused their clients autism.
Ummm politicians say a lot of stupid things bahahhahahahha
like I said
show me the studies that links autism to vaccines and Ill believe you.
How about you read the article instead....it goes into great detail. Btw...RFK JR..isnt a politician
8. Vaccine debacles: 1976 swine flu outbreak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ten deaths linked to having flu jab | UK | News | Daily Express
Comparison of VAERS fetal-loss reports during three consecutive influenza seasons
Parents of baby girl who was a victim of flu vaccine debacle suing State Government | Perth Now
Feds Probe Post-Flu Shot Seizures Among Kids - CBS News
Quebec woman dies after contracting H1N1 virus | CTV Montreal News
okay rare cases vs the 10s of millions who took the influenza vaccine?? Dying from an influenza vaccine is rarer then dying from a plain crash..the odds are soo fukking low ..bahahahhaah and why are you always bringing up influenza?? You know there are like 30 types of other vaccines right bahahhahaha
Rare cases....son I gave you alittle bit....that is just in the last 2 years or so. There are plenty more...and more that go back decades...This isn't about one vaccine but vaccines as a whole my friend. Many different ones...many injuries and deaths.
the 1976 debacle in America...I guess you are up on the report. No need you will just dismiss it too.
facts that have been debatable by other doctors and scientists. There wouldn't be a counter argument if the vaccines were reliable and the officials were truth tellers. That is not the case.
