Alert: NY Assembly Voting to Give Vaccines to Minors Without Parental Permission

[thekingsmen]

Question whatever you want., tru mac exposed your misleading title. I've been resistant to outside pressures to ban people, delete threads and other things, but we have to at least be credible in our subject matter. It's not a big issue really, we got at TWISM for doing that shyt earlier this year and others, I'm just hoping people don't engage in "shock thread titles." That's about it. You don't seem me trolling your threads, that's not my style.

Tru Mac does what in H.L.? Has he contribute to this forum...I've yet to see these people who are quick to point my shyt out and don't even contribute to putting anything out but bytching.

Btw...where is it misleading? Did you read my threads or skim through it....

OP states:

"On Monday, May 6, a new bill is to be brought to the New York State Assembly floor which will allow licensed physicians to administer preventative medical care for sexually transmitted diseases, including vaccines to minors without their parent’s permission.

This will include the vaccinations for hepatitis B and HPV.

The reasoning behind the bill is that section 2305 of the public health law currently permits a licensed physician or a staff physician to diagnose and treat a person under the age of 21 infected or exposed to a sexually transmissible disease without the consent or knowledge of the parents or guardians. "

Where is it misleading?

 

[No1]

Tru Mac does what in H.L.? Has he contribute to this forum...I've yet to see these people who are quick to point my shyt out and don't even contribute to putting anything out but bytching.

Btw...where is it misleading? Did you read my threads or skim through it....

OP states:

"On Monday, May 6, a new bill is to be brought to the New York State Assembly floor which will allow licensed physicians to administer preventative medical care for sexually transmitted diseases, including vaccines to minors without their parent’s permission.

This will include the vaccinations for hepatitis B and HPV.

The reasoning behind the bill is that section 2305 of the public health law currently permits a licensed physician or a staff physician to diagnose and treat a person under the age of 21 infected or exposed to a sexually transmissible disease without the consent or knowledge of the parents or guardians. "

Where is it misleading?

Don't argue for the sake of arguing family. Look at your title and the discussion that ensued and you know very well what the implication was to most. Come on, I can't believe you're fighting me on this just because guys like to troll your threads...

 

[Higher Tech]

Don't argue for the sake of arguing family. Look at your title and the discussion that ensued and you know very well what the implication was to most. Come on, I can't believe you're fighting me on this just because guys like to troll your threads...

In his defense, it's not his fault if people didn't read the link.

 

[thekingsmen]

Don't argue for the sake of arguing family. Look at your title and the discussion that ensued and you know very well what the implication was to most. Come on, I can't believe you're fighting me on this just because guys like to troll your threads...

To assume otherwise is just that b...assuming. If you are a parent....you want consent on your child's shyt right? So why wouldn't I point out something as important to people as a discussion about consent dealing with medical concerns. Your view was for me to create a troll stir....not true. The Trolls took over as usual and began crying to you about what im doing.

Who said I'm fighting you?.....you can't assume without asking first son.

 

[No1]

In his defense, it's not his fault if people didn't read the link.

I know, that's why I didn't edit the thread title or anything. But if I give others shyt for it, he can't be exempt. Further, he fully went along with the discussion. It's not as if he posted the link and went away.

@thekingsmen, before I go back to studying, don't take this as me taking up calls to get you banned or any of that shyt, it's more like in general let's try not to mislead with our thread titles or initial posts. I just don't want HL to start having OPs getting their malc on. I'm not saying you did it intentionally.

 

[throughthefire]

Poliomyelitis (pron.: /poʊlioʊmaɪəlaɪtɪs/), often called polio or infantile paralysis, is an acute, viral, infectious disease spread from person to person, primarily via the fecal-oral route.

The fecal–oral route (or alternatively the oral–fecal route or orofecal route) is a route of transmission of a disease, when pathogens in fecal particles pass from one host and introduced into the oral cavity of another host.

There are usually intermediate steps, sometimes multiple steps, among the more common ones being:

water that has come in contact with feces and is then inadequately treated before drinking;
food that has been handled with feces present;
poor sewage treatment along with disease vectors like houseflies;


stay in your lane hoe.

ummmm read my post again...as i said drinking water isn't the only way to getting polio..i never said it wasnt

and did you read my post...i said not all vaccines treatable diseases are water borne.. why are there unvaccinated children still getting pertusis in teh states..lol at you still using polio as your argument

:RUSS:

 

[thekingsmen]

@thekingsmen, before I go back to studying, don't take this as me taking up calls to get you banned or any of that shyt, it's more like in general let's try not to mislead with our thread titles or initial posts. I just don't want HL to start having OPs getting their malc on. I'm not saying you did it intentionally.

I can deal with that but @BarNone next round take time to read the OP and link before coming to the rescue for those who just see my name and what thread I created. I have to defend my thread that people attacked before even looking at the info...why wouldn't I respond?

 

[Brown_Pride]

I know, that's why I didn't edit the thread title or anything. But if I give others shyt for it, he can't be exempt. Further, he fully went along with the discussion. It's not as if he posted the link and went away.

@thekingsmen, before I go back to studying, don't take this as me taking up calls to get you banned or any of that shyt, it's more like in general let's try not to mislead with our thread titles or initial posts. I just don't want HL to start having OPs getting their malc on. I'm not saying you did it intentionally.

bingo.

Don't mislead with a title if in the course of discussion new shyt comes out feel free to edit the title or leave it, just don't intentionally troll. If we call you on "intentional trolling" and you have a sound argument well then so be it most likely we'll let it ride.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I can deal with that but @BarNone next round take time to read the OP and link before coming to the rescue for those who just see my name and what thread I created. I have to defend my thread that people attacked before even looking at the info...why wouldn't I respond?

i'd say human nature. Most people respond based on previous experience. It's a shame but it's what happens. We all more or less know what other people believe and think so people assume...wrongly at times.

 

[throughthefire]

In the last year there were 184 cases of polio worldwide. More than half in Nigeria. I know there's a public agenda to eradicate the disease. If the disease is successfully eradicated, would the vaccine still be necessary as a precaution? And if a country that did not vaccinate, reported 0 cases of the disease would you still see it as necessary.

And just to make things clear, Im just pickin your brain, not making an argument for or against vaccines.

that's areally good point...lots of people would say..whats the point of vaccinating for an eradicated disease its a waste of money..but i read a novel by albert camus called the plague and it makes a point that even though plagues come and go..we must be forever vigillant..you never know where the polio virus can be lying dorment even though its not infecting people but that's just my opinion...i don't think polio vaccines are part of the vaccination schedule in NA...i'm not sure

 

[Higher Tech]

that's areally good point...lots of people would say..whats the point of vaccinating for an eradicated disease its a waste of money..but i read a novel by albert camus called the plague and it makes a point that even though plagues come and go..we must be forever vigillant..you never know where the polio virus can be lying dorment even though its not infecting people but that's just my opinion...i don't think polio vaccines are part of the vaccination schedule in NA...i'm not sure

Touche' i dont have any kids and I got my shots many many moons ago, so I dont know either. Staying vigilant sounds like a good idea tho. Good lookin out

 

[throughthefire]

Touche' i dont have any kids and I got my shots many many moons ago, so I dont know either. Staying vigilant sounds like a good idea tho. Good lookin out

yeah breh...i think they stopped giving polio vaccines ages ago..don't seeing it in my vaccine card but incase there's a once and a million chance outbreak..im pretty sure vaccine companies have a polio virus put on ice incase they need to mass produce the antigens of the virus

 

[thekingsmen]

ummmm read my post again...as i said drinking water isn't the only way to getting polio..i never said it wasnt

This is where you should have read the rest of the description. To cook food you cook it in what? You bath in what? You use the bathroom in what?.... Africans mainly in certain regions don't have good sanitation or drinking water. Polio just doesn't pop out the sky. That is where the root cause comes in.

and did you read my post...i said not all vaccines treatable diseases are water borne.. why are there unvaccinated children still getting pertusis in teh states..lol at you still using polio as your argument

Im using your argument and I took it and used it against you and now and now with whooping cough( pertusis as you are trying to sound all smart and shyt).... really are happening to vaccinated children more than non-vaccinated children...

Pertussis Infection in Fully Vaccinated Children in Day-Care Centers, Israel - Vol. 6 No. 5 - October 2000 - Emerging Infectious Disease journal - CDC

Vaccine a dud, says city doctor | Ipswich Queensland Times

Vaccinated People Getting Whooping Cough In SD | KPBS.org

With the African Children who don't get proper drinking water, proper water sanitation, proper food to eat, don't get vitamins and minerals....I would expect diseases to be high from whooping cough to water-borne diseases. Educating people how to clean themselves, cook food and clean their children...diseases wouldn't be rampant. These people can stay uneducated with vaccines in their systems and changes nothing.





:RUSS:

 

[throughthefire]

lol i support all the things you are advocating..clean water system..a secular education system based on science and facts etc...but africa is a long way to achieving these things..buf if there was a way to eradicate a disease that can cripple or even kill you why wouldn't you?? let's say there was a vaccine that could prevent or possibly cure malaria..shouldn't it be important for them to have access to it..like you're saying if you focus on vaccination ..you don';t give a fu about a proper sanitation system..that's absolutely retarded

"really are happening to vaccinated children more than non-vaccinated children..."

http://skeweddistribution.com/2012/05/14/true-or-false-there-are-more-vaccinated-pertussis-cases-than-unvaccinated/

The rate for vaccinated students is: 81/930=8.7%

The rate for unvaccinated students is 19/70=27.1%

 

[thekingsmen]

lol i support all the things you are advocating..clean water system..a secular education system based on science and facts etc...but africa is a long way to achieving these things..buf if there was a way to eradicate a disease that can cripple or even kill you why wouldn't you?? let's say there was a vaccine that could prevent or possibly cure malaria..shouldn't it be important for them to have access to it

Africa doesn't have to be a long way from that if they spent their resources and money on it instead of allowing Foreign Nations dictate their fates in political fields that create more harm then help as well as corporations using them as guinea pigs for experiments like they have been during for over 50 years. Malaria again is avoidable through education of sanitation and clean water. Malaria strives in those poor conditions. It's like educating the community on hygiene is more of a problem than giving them vaccines and go about their lives ignorant. Why should people just have access to vaccines but not have access to clean water...this is where the problem lies.




"really are happening to vaccinated children more than non-vaccinated children..."

True or False: There are more vaccinated pertussis cases than unvaccinated | SkewedDistribution

The rate for vaccinated students is: 81/930=8.7%

The rate for unvaccinated students is 19/70=27.1%

Sorry to say this but that was the worst example of math by the link. It's like the example( stay with me here) where the FBI did a report from 1980-2005 on terrorism on American Soil. Muslims were 6% , Left Wing was 24%. Now if I took that and changed it around to fit an agenda....Muslims would win over the Left Wing...because I wanted the math to fit the agenda told. Less does not mean more.