Nobody is saying that kids don't deserve equal opportunities, what I'm saying is that I don't see any point in putting money into a failed system, if the system has failed then that means the system needs to be shut down
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Nobody is saying that kids don't deserve equal opportunities, what I'm saying is that I don't see any point in putting money into a failed system, if the system has failed then that means the system needs to be shut down
who said i didn't appreciate it. I know full well what challenges poor students face at public schools. I also know that MOST charter schools don't alleviate those challenges and that MOST kids can't even get into charter schools. Therefore I advocate fixing the schools that they go to. As of right now charter school and voucher funding is a way for the goverment to say they are doing something for the inner city kids, without actualy fixing the problems in the inner city.
You don't just keep throwing money at a broken system and hope one day it fixes. If you had an old jollopy, eventually the cost of repairs becomes more than the worth of the car. So you ditch it and buy a new oneMy analogies
If that's the case then you shouldn't support charter schools either. They are more likely to fail than public schools. And the only national plan that concentrated on charters and vouchers was a big failure.
My analogies
charters are a broken system as well. So what should we do?
the same thing that applies to public schools should apply to charter schools, if they fail they should be closed
but the impact of charter schools has been a positive nationwide and they are not more likely to fail than public schools so i dont know what you're talking about
what are you basing that statement on, its obviously not based on your personal experience with charters since you already admitted that you send your kids to charter schools
My daughters school is phenomenal. But most charter schools aren't. And students going to failed charters end up worse off than if they had stayed in their original school.
FCAT Results: Charter Schools Have High Failure Rate « CBS Miami
That's Florida
Same goes for Ohio
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2105733,00.html
Toledo Blade
the florida story is from 2011, here are the 2013 results
Florida data shows charter schools outperform traditional schools on FCAT | Tampa Bay Times
every state sets up their own charter schools, so it might be that ohio simply has a bad charter school plan that has to be corrected and some charter schools that need to be closed
but overall charter schools do better than public schools
[Smokey]Meach, why you keep bringing up old shyt?[/Friday] Your whole mentality is stuck in the past. Time to move forward to the 21st century. I thought progressives were all about "progress". The public school system is dead. It's a money sink. Let it go.
And getting back to my earlier statement. Yes, I'm all for separating children. No reason a bright mind should be influenced by negativity. Pookie can join a vocational school.
The two stories we posted have pretty much the same data but different headlines.
The failure rate for charter schools is higher than public schools. If you don't want to put money into a failing system then you shouldn't want to put money into charter schools. The advantages are marginal at best and they come at the expense of students stuck in underfunded public schools. Also when a charter schools fails it causes chaos for the district and the kids are even worse off.
Also charter schools get to choose their own students. They should be greatly outperforming public schools but they are not
[Smokey]Meach, why you keep bringing up old shyt?[/Friday] Your whole mentality is stuck in the past. Time to move forward to the 21st century. I thought progressives were all about "progress". The public school system is dead. It's a money sink. Let it go.
And getting back to my earlier statement. Yes, I'm all for separating children. No reason a bright mind should be influenced by negativity. Pookie can join a vocational school.
my mentality is stuck in the past, but you advocate the same inequality that got us to where we are.And who said anything about progressives?
its not the same story from florida, yours is from 2011 mines is from 2013
as for OH, the price of failure is death, if charter schools in Ohio are failing then they need to close them until they figure out what they are doing wrong
Read the data in the two stories. It's almost identical. Charter schools in Florida are more likely to receive failing grades than public schools. It's not just ohio it's the entire country.
and according to the data, charter schools perform better than public schools, if anything you just proved that you posted a story with a bogus headline
overall charter schools perform better
There's nothing bogus about the title, overall charter schools are more likely to fail.