Alabama's Governor Signs Education Bill Allowing School Choice

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yeah but the the problem is the way public schools are organized bureaucratically is not designed to handle children who dont have good parents, that is why its better to close the schools and create a new structure that is meant to handle bad parents

How is this possible with a profit motive involved? Any school that tries this will have to be heavily subsidized, which means organized bureaucratically.
 

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lol while i kind of agree with you at some point...if these highschools want to incorpate a we choose our students kind of system..they need to put in place a grading system of who gets the pass or the boot liike what the japanese /asians do..but knowing alabama ..lol :comeon::comeon:
exactly we've let Alabama have a hand in how they want to "organize" their schools, that shyt ended with firehoses being turned on dark masses of protesters :sadbron:


(i'm using easy numbers)
So let's say this year school A has 100 students and operational cash of $1,000,000 (10k per student)

Schoool B is 250 with $2,500,000 (look at me assuming they give the same money to all kids...:smile: )

Now mid year let's say 100 students transfer from school A to School B.

A = 250 students with $1,000,000
B = 100 students with $2,5000,000

Now how are we going to determine which schools we should improve? DOes the money follow the kid? What about School A who had laid out costs for a year in order to accommodate 100 kids that now has an additional 100 students?

What about school B that we'd expect to see an abundance of teachers?

This law is fukery at its finest and not really well thought out.
 

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How is this possible with a profit motive involved? Any school that tries this will have to be heavily subsidized, which means organized bureaucratically.

and the other thing is that these types of changes also represent a huge opportunity for black people to do our own thing and open up our own schools, why do we always assume that the white school or the white private schools are better, a little segregation never hurt nobody

 
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and the other thing is that these types of changes also represent a huge opportunity for black people to do our own thing and open up our own schools, why do we always assume that the white school or the white private schools are better, a little segregation never hurt nobody
:what:

if you're talking segregating you fruits form your meat products in the fridge then this is on point, in terms of students and race again let me say :what: :why:
 

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White folks will never allow this law in every state.

They aint trying mix n!ggas with their little prince and princesses

White Republicans are the ones pushing school choice.

It is the white liberals who don't want poor black kids going to their childrens' schools.
 

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It is really depressing how alot of black folks choose to toe the Democrat party's line regarding school vouchers.

We literally have black people fighting with all their heart to prevent black children from being able to enroll in good schools. Of course none of these opponents of school choice actually live in areas with bad schools. If they lived in the inner city I guarantee their views would be different.
 

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It is really depressing how alot of black folks choose to toe the Democrat party's line regarding school vouchers.

We literally have black people fighting with all their heart to prevent black children from being able to enroll in good schools. Of course none of these opponents of school choice actually live in areas with bad schools. If they lived in the inner city I guarantee their views would be different.

My kids go to a charter school and I still don't advocate for them. My kids are in the lucky minority that have a good chance at education. Most kids wont get the same opportunties as mine. These types of plans only create greater inequality by pulling funds from the schools that need them the most. All students can leave a bad school or school system and these programs leave those kids with scraps.
 

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stories like that dont really mean anything becuase the people that write it have an agenda, the story even tells you what their agenda is
This assessment of the NCLB decade was written by Lisa Guisbond with Monty Neill and Bob Schaeffer, all from the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, known as FairTest, a Boston-based organization that aims to end the misuse of standardized tests.

so all you have done is posted a story written by people that dont like stadardized test, so that is what they will focus on

the reality IMO is that NLCB is a wash, its done some good things and its done some bad things, but i dont think you can blame it for the state of education because its not like the state of education was so much better before

and again according to your own posting black students have gained academically during the time NLCB was in effect, i dont really see how you can just arbitrarily say that NLCB has nothing to do with any good nes over the past deacade

My kids go to a charter school and I still don't advocate for them. My kids are in the lucky minority that have a good chance at education. Most kids wont get the same opportunties as mine. These types of plans only create greater inequality by pulling funds from the schools that need them the most. All students can leave a bad school or school system and these programs leave those kids with scraps.

so again, here you are acknowledging positive things about NLCB

the only reason children will be left behind in bad public schools is if you continue to demand that bad public schools stay open, kids cannot get stuck in bad public schools that dont exist, thats why bad public schools need to be shut down
 

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stories like that dont really mean anything becuase the people that write it have an agenda, the story even tells you what their agenda is

so all you have done is posted a story written by people that dont like stadardized test, so that is what they will focus on

the reality IMO is that NLCB is a wash, its done some good things and its done some bad things, but i dont think you can blame it for the state of education because its not like the state of education was so much better before

and again according to your own posting black students have gained academically during the time NLCB was in effect, i dont really see how you can just arbitrarily say that NLCB has nothing to do with any good nes over the past deacade
Doesn't matter what their agenda is. NCLB didn't work. It didn't meat it's own goals. Let alone any other expectations.

I never said it hasn't done any good. My point is it doesn't help the kids that really need it.

so again, here you are acknowledging positive things about NLCB

the only reason children will be left behind in bad public schools is if you continue to demand that bad public schools stay open, kids cannot get stuck in bad public schools that dont exist, thats why bad public schools need to be shut down

There are positive things, but those positive things come at the expense of the kids that don't make it into the programs. My problem with voucher/charter programs is that they create an even greater divide in opportunity for kids. Your plan of no public schools sounds good on paper, but in the real world that would NEVER happen. If we could find enough money to close ALL public schools and send the kids to charter schools, then we'd have enough money to fix the public schools. You say gov. Beauracracy is holding public schools back, well if you close all public schools then the charter schools would be subject to the same beauracracy.
 

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Doesn't matter what their agenda is. NCLB didn't work. It didn't meat it's own goals. Let alone any other expectations.

I never said it hasn't done any good. My point is it doesn't help the kids that really need it.

yeah so in other words, NCLB is a wash

There are positive things, but those positive things come at the expense of the kids that don't make it into the programs. My problem with voucher/charter programs is that they create an even greater divide in opportunity for kids. Your plan of no public schools sounds good on paper, but in the real world that would NEVER happen. If we could find enough money to close ALL public schools and send the kids to charter schools, then we'd have enough money to fix the public schools. You say gov. Beauracracy is holding public schools back, well if you close all public schools then the charter schools would be subject to the same beauracracy.

you dont need money to close public schools, you save money by closing public schools and you cannot fix public schools with money anyways because money isnt the real problem, the real problem is the culture of the kids, the culture of the parent and the culture of the people that run the school, money is good, but if you dont deal with the culture money is irrelevant

and i dont think you even understand what a charter school is, charter schools do not operate under the same bureaucracy, that is the the whole point of charters is that every charter schools are independent
 
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