After being briefed today US congressman said the public not ready for Aliens (Update: NASA hearing Sept 14)

[Lexington Steele]

This is your rebuttal, huh?



I bet you thought you would get some daps off this too

Let me check to see if I did.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Dude has been briefing cats since the 90’s.. why dispute what he says?

As much as I dislike Rhakim's arguments in here, he did outline a lot of the lies Greer has been caught in. The CIA directors he claimed he briefed have refuted his claims and said they just met Greer at a crowded event somewhere, where he just pushed into a conversation and started making claims about ufos and aliens. The director said he didn't ask for it and the whole interaction made him uncomfortable. If that is briefing a CIA director then,

He is a doctor and examined a supposed alien body and claimed it was alien. It turned out to be a pygmy or something. How does a doctor not know he is examining a human? How does a doctor make such a big mistake? It's because he's a grifter. His disclosure project in 2001 was great, but then he got a big ego and started making shyt up or staging shyt. I can't respect that.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

As much as I dislike Rhakim's arguments in here, he did outline a lot of the lies Greer has been caught in. The CIA directors he claimed he briefed have refuted his claims and said they just met Greer at a crowded event somewhere, where he just pushed into a conversation and started making claims about ufos and aliens. The director said he didn't ask for it and the whole interaction made him uncomfortable. If that is briefing a CIA director then,

He is a doctor and examined a supposed alien body and claimed it was alien. It turned out to be a pygmy or something. How does a doctor not know he is examining a human? How does a doctor make such a big mistake? It's because he's a grifter. His disclosure project in 2001 was great, but then he got a big ego and started making shyt up or staging shyt. I can't respect that.

We don’t know whos lying, thats the point.

So who has the least reason to lie? Greer isn’t world famous, and when did everyone all of a sudden start flat out believing politicians and etc without any plausible causes?

Can’t just flip flop on it. I think it became cool to try to hate on Greer because of his statements but there hasn’t been any proof he did not brief or attempt to brief anyone. It’s basically he said she said all around

But people need to pay attention to more of what they’re saying and fighting for. Why would a CIA director admit to receiving his briefs when it would cost him his career? The Leguizmo dude tried to brief his director and they wouldn’t even let him speak to dude so he could have plausible deniability.. which is why he quit his job as well.

TF is a pygmy even? Idk.. I think for some reason this whole discrediting a person over xyz is bullshyt at this point. Only thing dude want is disclosure for the technology to be released to the planet to help improve it.. he has no stake in any military industry to lie about information. And if there is .0 technology out there we should’ve been had it instead of fukking the planet up more. He actually proved that in his documentary with all of the inventors that were killed or mysteriously died.

And again, he had a point. If it is illegal, then it shouldn’t be considered classified.

And he didn’t just brief a CIA director in his claims, he briefed Clinton with his director and Clinton wanted to investigate but was told that he didn’t want those problems by Bush.. same Bush that owned stake in a lot of those military industries.

 

[Ciggavelli]

We don’t know whos lying, thats the point.

So who has the least reason to lie? Greer isn’t world famous, and when did everyone all of a sudden start flat out believing politicians and etc without any plausible causes?

Can’t just flip flop on it. I think it became cool to try to hate on Greer because of his statements but there hasn’t been any proof he did not brief or attempt to brief anyone. It’s basically he said she said all around

But people need to pay attention to more of what they’re saying and fighting for. Why would a CIA director admit to receiving his briefs when it would cost him his career? The Leguizmo dude tried to brief his director and they wouldn’t even let him speak to dude so he could have plausible deniability.. which is why he quit his job as well.

TF is a pygmy even? Idk.. I think for some reason this whole discrediting a person over xyz is bullshyt at this point. Only thing dude want is disclosure for the technology to be released to the planet to help improve it.. he has no stake in any military industry to lie about information.

And again, he had a point. If it is illegal, then it shouldn’t be considered classified.

Greer sells events that make him money. He also pushes this "alien false flag" narrative that hurts the ufo community. His lied about the pygmy (or is just plain incompetent) and his made up alien shyt at events he makes a profit from hurt the ufo community. It just gives more ammo to the skeptics and makes the alien phenomenon seem silly and made up.

I'm all for disclosure, and as I've made clear many times on here, I'm a believer in ufos and aliens and think they are interacting with us. I just think Greer hurts more than he helps. I much prefer people like Richard Dolan.

 

[HoldThisL]

So many people are nonchalant now to the possible existence of Aliens
In the 90s this shyt would have did numbers, now it's like "cool,aliens, ufo....ok"

We are so desensitized to shyt now as a society.

 

[Hyperion]

There were 3 guys actually, and even more in the past.

These three were backed by even more guys sitting directly behind them

This isn’t “blurry videos” or an AARO representative testifying while not being under oath.

You do know these guys could go to prison for lying.. right?

It’s like, why do even nikkas come in here without knowing wtf they’re even discussing. shyt is classified.. can’t be legally released in a public hearing until unclassified.

The point of Grusch statements is that he is highly classified and can’t access certain shyt necessary to do his job.. which is suspect. Which is why he quit his job and went to congress with info.

And even if shyt was released, most you “skeptics” still wouldn’t believe it.. shyt was already released and Pentagon fessed up.. still don’t believe it

People don't want to look into things before they discredit it, because people think Grusch is some crazy dude who heard some shyt when that's far from what happened. And it seems his claims were corroborated by others who do have access to certain programs, which is why there's a hearing. John Kirby just last week said that there are in fact incursions on American airspace during training regimens, and regularly, and they don't know what they are.

But on the evidence part... You know, we very well could've seen real things already and we disregarded them as fake. People have a massive distrust in the government, and for very good reason. Even if they were to release a photo, a very clear one, that still might not be enough. Same with videos. But one theory that I've seen floating around is that they're doing this slowly so if massive contact happens, it's not humanity's first time acknowledging their existence right then and there. Basically to avoid panic. So they're easing people into it.

If this is true, then I would suspect that very soon we might see more convincing evidence, along with more hearings. Possibly a much more sobering response to the topic, as well.

 

[klutch2381]

Imo all the UFOs you see are just advanced military projects that have crashed or are in training. We have no idea the advancement of the US military. Their research is decades ahead before we actually witness what they want us to see. UFOs is a great cover for that.

To believe this you have to think we have developed technology that can break the conversation of momentum (i.e., these UAPS are often seen traveling at a great speed and stopping instantly on a dime with no breaking, deceleration, or transference of energy). This as far as we know is impossible, but that’s what’s happening.

The Nimitz/Tic Tac for example: the UAPs don’t create sonic booms. On radar, we saw one zoom from 28,000 feet to sea level in .78 seconds. I watched a video earlier and this PhD/professor/physicist at Albany was saying at the midpoint of that descent it would have to be going 35,000 MPH, which is Mach 60. It accelerated to that speed in .4 seconds , and did it with no sonic boom. Also, our new F-35 is rated for 13.5 G’s. At that force, its wings will rip off. The professor says at this time humans could accelerate an aircraft to about 15 G’s max. So, essentially, well below a 100 G’s in terms of maintaining crafts structural integrity.

He calculated the G’s on the aforementioned UAP that flew 28,000 feet in .78 seconds after accelerating to 35,000 MPH in .4 seconds. You know what it would be? 5,700 G’s . In other words….impossible with our current understanding of physics/technology.

 

[ORDER_66]

So many people are nonchalant now to the possible existence of Aliens
In the 90s this shyt would have did numbers, now it's like "cool,aliens, ufo....ok"

We are so desensitized to shyt now as a society.

I think alot of people are burnt out but you notice the media aint focusing on this story so outta sight outta mind with these people... so its gonna take a literal global even that cant be ignore so that people will get their minds blown...

 

[Leasy]

And I just know Rhakim is going crazy trying to piece together a wall of links he can plaster on here and downplay all of this.

You know he using A.I to help him with his rebuttal. You cant legit witnesses so i wonder what he will say.

I think that "sphere with cube in it" ufo is probably some sort of monitoring device potentially from the aliens. They, whomever they are, have shown that they can make spheres fly somehow. Why not put a camera in it for monitoring?

I was thinking in a different way. The cube is a time disortation or dimenional method that the craft is in which allows it to disort our laws of physics etc..

Sacred Geometry and multiple dimensions.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

People don't want to look into things before they discredit it, because people think Grusch is some crazy dude who heard some shyt when that's far from what happened. And it seems his claims were corroborated by others who do have access to certain programs, which is why there's a hearing. John Kirby just last week said that there are in fact incursions on American airspace during training regimens, and regularly, and they don't know what they are.

But on the evidence part... You know, we very well could've seen real things already and we disregarded them as fake. People have a massive distrust in the government, and for very good reason. Even if they were to release a photo, a very clear one, that still might not be enough. Same with videos. But one theory that I've seen floating around is that they're doing this slowly so if massive contact happens, it's not humanity's first time acknowledging their existence right then and there. Basically to avoid panic. So they're easing people into it.

If this is true, then I would suspect that very soon we might see more convincing evidence, along with more hearings. Possibly a much more sobering response to the topic, as well.

Graves said it in a podcast too

Basically, it’s a very common thing and honestly, whatever that shyt is is a threat to those pilots safety.

I don’t think whatever they are, are intentionally malicious at all… but whatever that shyt is always around there training areas at least in the sea. And multiple people (cockpit has 2 pilots) and radars aren’t all lying or seeing “hallucinations”. They actually get trained against hallucinating.

You just don’t become a fighter pilot out of nowhere. This isn’t some small cargo ship you just got to a class for

 

[nieman]

Yup. So, that means if 'aliens' are visiting this planet, they'd be (relatively) close-by.

This is where you have to speculate about inter-dimensional travel, time travel, instant-transmission, etc., as well as how long they live, what their civilization is like, etc., ALL WITHOUT A SHRED OF OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE THEY EVEN EXIST.​

Dude, they still haven't even covered the bodies of water, and that's right there, and theoretically within reach and measurable. There's thousands of aquatic life they're newly discovering each yr.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Greer sells events that make him money. He also pushes this "alien false flag" narrative that hurts the ufo community. His lied about the pygmy (or is just plain incompetent) and his made up alien shyt at events he makes a profit from hurt the ufo community. It just gives more ammo to the skeptics and makes the alien phenomenon seem silly and made up.

I'm all for disclosure, and as I've made clear many times on here, I'm a believer in ufos and aliens and think they are interacting with us. I just think Greer hurts more than he helps. I much prefer people like Richard Dolan.

Every ufologists sells events… thats how they fund shyt and live.

What false flags?

Like I said, yall be too worried about discrediting the person saying and doing shyt instead of whats being said or done. He’s had congressional hearings.. he’s had people with credentials come out and support him.

I’m not worried about trying to discredit him, I’m worried about if he’s right or wrong and keeping an open mind about either.

It was the same shyt with Bob Lazar too.. and many others that have came out and spoke up. It’s going on in this very thread now with the pilots that are coming forward, with the kids in Africa, with the people in Brazil, etc.

Time will tell all, but some pygmy story that I haven’t even heard of means nothing to me in regards to what he’s done or doing. I don’t even agree with a lot of shyt he has said.. so what’s wrong with letting the people who need to know or should know (us) find out?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You're an illiterate uninformed coli poster...

Ya' mamma!!

Boy.

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[O.T.I.S.]

To believe this you have to think we have developed technology that can break the conversation of momentum (i.e., these UAPS are often seen traveling at a great speed and stopping instantly on a dime with no breaking, deceleration, or transference of energy). This as far as we know is impossible, but that’s what’s happening.

The Nimitz/Tic Tac for example: the UAPs don’t create sonic booms. On radar, we saw one zoom from 28,000 feet to sea level in .78 seconds. I watched a video earlier and this PhD/professor/physicist at Albany was saying at the midpoint of that descent it would have to be going 35,000 MPH, which is Mach 60. It accelerated to that speed in .4 seconds , and did it with no sonic boom. Also, our new F-35 is rated for 13.5 G’s. At that force, its wings will rip off. The professor says at this time humans could accelerate an aircraft to about 15 G’s max. So, essentially, well below a 100 G’s in terms of maintaining crafts structural integrity.

He calculated the G’s on the aforementioned UAP that flew 28,000 feet in .78 seconds after accelerating to 35,000 MPH in .4 seconds. You know what it would be? 5,700 G’s . In other words….impossible with our current understanding of physics/technology.

There are people who we believe already created something similar 50 years ago.. but like i said, inventors killed, projects shelved, patents bought and buried.

So I don’t necessarily disbelieve that this is man made but I don’t necessarily believe it either. There’s a lot that has to go on in order to travel that fast.

But whatever it is, it’s there and it’s toying with our military.

Graves even said that they started putting it out there because if it’s friendly and some aeronautics company doing experiments in military airspace they need to cut that shyt out and warn them that whatever it is is fukking with their pilots and training.

He even said that one day training had been canceled due to weather (fire fight training) and their commander just told them to go out and look for UFO’s as a joke.. then they actually found some. It’s to the point where it’s extremely common now that the pilots joke about it but don’t report it

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Dude, they still haven't even covered the bodies of water, and that's right there, and theoretically within reach and measurable. There's thousands of aquatic life they're newly discovering each yr.

That doesn't mean 'aliens' are hiding there.

Doesn't mean they AREN'T, but there's no evidence they ARE.​