After being briefed today US congressman said the public not ready for Aliens (Update: NASA hearing Sept 14)

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Fair enough.

So the language that is in the actual "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Disclosure Act" has A LOT of language that points to actual "credible testimony and evidence" in their bill.. it states multiple

It goes into very in-depth detail and wording on specific things such as:

1)Eminent domain over craft found, which basically points to Congress saying "We want all control over crafts, not private aerospace companies"

2) a timeline of when these disclosures need to be presented, bypassing past hurdles due to language used in the Atomic Energy Act of 1954

3) Appointing someone who "has had no previous or current involve ment with any legacy program or controlling authority relating to the collection, exploitation, or reverse engineering of technologies of unknown origin or the examination of biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence." (Which is just language that makes it sound like THERE ARE legacy programs involved with UAPs)

4) All Federal Government records concerning unidentified anomalous phenomena should carry a presumption of immediate disclosure and all records should be eventually disclosed to enable the public to become fully informed about the history of the Federal Government’s knowledge and involvement surrounding unidentified anomalous phenomena.

This type of language within the bill sounds VERY specific and taken very seriously. They don't draft a bill this specific with language this precise without evidence

Do you not hold these sorts of things as giving these stories more weight? Because obviously elected officials and those who have been given access to the evidence presented by Grusch and others are taking this VERY seriously in a bipartisan manner


Again, I think the evidence heavily, heavily weighs towards there being a top-secret craft recovery program to pick up and evaluate crashed or confiscated ships that must be kept secret (spy planes and drones, top secret foreign technology, maybe even our own tech if it crashes in the wrong place), and that due to secrecy and compartmentalization, some conspiracy-minded people who had relatively low levels of knowledge about the program began to believe they were working on alien technology.

Also, we are likely including people like Eric Davis, who might have been simply given a piece of metal claimed to be from a UFO, and merely from looking at the alloys and isotope ratios couldn't match it to normally manufactured material and started saying things like:

Davis said that in some cases he had failed to determine the source of recovered materials, leading him to conclude, “We couldn’t make it ourselves.”

Which other scientists would say is a ridiculous conclusion to base on that little evidence. But I bet most of the "whistleblowers" leaking to Grusch are going off of little more than this, and Grusch just got so confident because there were too many people with borderline claims like that, too many secondhand stories, and he's too gullible.


 
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I am pretty sure once Americs declassify their information Europe and Australia is next.

I am certain Russia and China not going to do shyt.

How would yall feel if it comes out that our latest tech like Lasers CPUs etc.. comes from UFO crashes


Scientists in every advanced field have extremely detailed and close records of every single meaningful advancement in technology. They do that shyt in real time, they read every new paper on the subject. It's not the movies where someone makes some huge spectacular lab result by himself, it's always a process based on previous research with collaborations around the globe. There's literally no major development in the history of US tech where you could claim alien input into it unless it was the most meagre, gradual help at one tiny part of the process.
 

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Material/biological claims require material/biological evidence.

It wasn't a trial.

Talking/speculation/blurry photos & videos isn't evidence of aliens.​
He just told you 3 times that they had a closed hearing where they are presenting harder forms of evidence than just stories.

Lol Yet your manipulative ass keeps acting like he didnt say that. Why? Because if you say "theres just stories" and someone tells you "theres more than stories being presented, and they are having a closed hearing about that" that means you were presented with new info you werent aware if, a.k.a...wrong. And you need to shut the fukk up after that lol. Thats how that exchange should go. Not you trying to act like that wasnt said.
 

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No. I'm asking for material/biological evidence of aliens crashing into the Earth instead of stories/hearsay.

That's it.

If someone told you they won a million dollars, but could NEVER provide a receipt or ANY actual proof, would you believe them?​

If they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars you'd be inclined to believe it. Because somehow they found a lot of money to spend that doesn't line up with their income.

Because that's what we're dealing with with UFO's.

Furthermore, as far as "evidence" is concerned we have more evidence that some UFOs are intelligently controlled than we do that Black holes exist or dark matter/dark energy exists.

Yet the latter 3 things are uncritically accepted by astronomers and astrophysicists. But the former thing is rejected out of hand despite over 70 years of hard evidence regarding radar data, infrared data, biological data, radiological data, witness testimony, video evidence, mysterious equipment failures around the phenomenon like nuclear missiles being disabled when ufos are around or cars mysteriously shutting off, etc...

None of which we have with dark matter or dark energy that haven't even been directly observed. Nor with Black holes that can only be indirectly observed through telescopes because they're allegedly tens of thousands of light years away or more.
 
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As soon as they produce it, I may think otherwise. Until then, there's no evidence of aliens.​
Well this is exactly the entire point of this conversation that everyone is trying to do.... find substantial evidence of aliens

Congrats on catching up to the point of this topic!
 

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Well this is exactly the entire point of this conversation that everyone is trying to do.... find substantial evidence of aliens
No. Y'all trying to convince people that aliens crashed/came here without one SHRED of evidence other than 'He said/They said', while I'm not convinced that's the case because there is NO evidence other than 'He said/They said'.

That's the point of this thread and you can stop trying to be condescending.

Thanks.​
 

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No. Y'all trying to convince people that aliens crashed/came here without one SHRED of evidence other than 'He said/They said', while I'm not convinced that's the case because there is NO evidence other than 'He said/They said'.

That's the point of this thread and you can stop trying to be condescending.

Thanks.​
Congrats on not being open to the story. Catch ya in the next thread where more information is presented, and you can let us know yet again that you don't believe in it lol
 

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Congrats on not being open to the story. Catch ya in the next thread where more information is presented, and you can let us know yet again that you don't believe in it lol
Absence of evidence is not evidence of abscence. You believe something without sufficient evidence. I reserve judgement until sufficient evidence is forthcoming.

Nothing more, nothing less.​
 
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