You don’t know if it’s a flare effect, you think it’s a flare effect because you watched a video of a video game designer attempting to “debunk” the videos with makeshift experiments. I’ll trust the fighter pilots and sailors who are actually trained actually operate and are knowledgeable about how the technology works in the field over some random get making videos in his garage.
Pilots are completely regular people. They were not selected to be pilots based on their knowledge of the internal workings of camera optics. When you meet real pilots you've find pilots who didn't even go to college, who are total a$$holes in person, who are arrogant beyond belief, who often have massive gaps in their knowledge....just like people in any other profession.
I mean hell, one of my pilot friends played this band for me and said it's every fighter pilot's favorite group. I swear all their songs (which are meant to be comically self-derogatory) are about getting drunk, not knowing how to maintain their equipment, and how arrogant pilots are. That's the stereotypical image of fighter pilots even among fighter pilots.
There's no reason to have an exalted image of pilots, especially when it comes to things that aren't even directly related to flying.
I highly doubt the US navy doesn’t know the difference between a “flare effect” and a UAP.
The very first example in the video is the Chilean Navy case, where the Navy spent two years looking at a UAP case and finally released it to the public, claiming there was no explanation, and then Mick West's website figured out the exact object (it was Iberia Airlines flight IB6830) in just five days of work. It's the same sorts of images and basic misinterpretations as this case - optical illusions causing them to not know the true distance to the craft.
Amateur Internet researchers figured out in 5 days what the Chilean government UFO group couldn't in two years.
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Here’s a direct quote from David Fravor “It’s funny how people can extrapolate stuff who’ve never operated the system,” Fravor said of West’s critique. Fravor also told Fridman there were up to five other objects in the air that day flying in formation with the “Gimbal” aircraft and that several other sailors were tracking them.
That eliminates the whole “it was a jet plane” theory.
Fravor also claimed that his encounter with the "tic tac" object lasted five minutes, when the other pilot and weapon's specialist who were there said it was only 8-10 seconds. So he should be a bit more humble about whether operating the system makes you infallible.
Fravor's claim that other objects were there and other sailors had been tracking them relies on the object in view being the same objects that had previously been tracked. Which is likely not true - as the video points out, one of the main misperceptions that led to confusion in the Navy incidents was that they often mistook large-but-far objects that were out of their radar range for close-but-small objects that had appeared on their radar. There is no evidence that the object actually imaged on Gimbal is the same thing the sailors had seen flying (more like "drifting") in formation.
So, once again, it’s easy to make bootleg experiments in a garage but you’re talking about several eyewitnesses and some of the most advanced equipment in the world saying the same thing.
The eyewitness statements differ radically from each other, and radically from the equipment. In this case they didn't even have a visual on the object outside of the infrared camera. Please cite in which instance there were multiple eyewitnesses and equipment making the same observation.
I suggest you read this in full to understand just how many discrepancies and alternate interpretations were involved in some of these sightings:
Image source: zztopfila. Part 1- A Summary of Events Part 2- The Radars Part 3- Fravor’s Encounter with the Tic Tac Part 4- The FLIR Footage Part 5- The Additional Sightings from the Nimitz and Pri…
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Let’s say hypothetically everything the skeptic was saying was true. You have several navy fighter pilots and sailors all having eyewitness accounts of these UAPs flying with no type of jet propulsion system.
There are numerous instances of pilots being fooled by parallax effect. Did you listen to the part of the video where West gives a theory for what Fravor saw? Fravor claims that the object reverse-mirrored every movement he made - that when he descended it rose, that when he circled it reverse-circled, that when he rushed towards it, it rushed towards him. Do you realize that's the PERFECT explanation of a parallax effect? The object never moved independently of his movements, but because he misinterpreted where the object was against its background, it always looked like it was moving in the exact opposite direction of how he moved. And that also matches the way in which the other pilots dispute several of Fravor's statements regarding the object's movement, though their stories are also impacted by Fravor's narrative and the claims he was making while he told them what he was going to do.
Fravor isn't going to admit this because 1) he's strongly built the narrative of what happened in his mind and 2) there's a lot of ego involved in the claims and going out on a limb about UAPs, and he'd feel really dumb to say it was all a mistake especially considering his status in the community.
I never said it’s a gravitational field, I said it appears to be one.
breh come on.
The reason I worded that way because the aura around the craft intensifies right before the craft accelerates/disappears. This is similar to what bob lazar described. You can’t compare it to the aura around a typical plane because it has an entirely different propulsion system that as of right now is physically impossible to produce.
The "aura" doesn't come from the propulsion system. The aura is a a sharpening effect that comes from the image processing, it's basically just the compression algorithm over-sharpening the boundary around a hot image.
Once again, the guy in the garage doesn’t know how much heat the craft is producing. Heat signatures are in the shape of the object that’s producing the heat. Human body’s under infrared lenses look exactly like human bodies. He even displays that in the video. The airfraft is clearly saucer shaped
Heat signatures are in the shape of the heat, not the object producing the heat. For a human, the heat signature is in the shape of a human body because the entire body produces heat. But on a jet, the heat is being produced by the engines, not the entire craft - the wings are far cooler and produce comparatively little heat. If you're close enough you'll be able to see that the jet body is warmer than the background, but at a distance or if the engines are running especially hot, they're going to drown out the rest of the signal.
Yes you can see exhaust fumes in infrared but I already debunked this earlier in my post because eyewitness accounts proved that there was no exhaust or any type of propulsion system
You mean you
can't see exhaust fumes in infrared.
And there were no physical eyewitnesses for this craft, so how can you claim they didn't see exhaust/propulsion? In the completely different cases where there was a visual of no exhaust/propulsion, the objects were likely just moving with the wind and misinterpreted due to parallax effect. That's explained in the video.
Honestly, I really think you should watch it again more carefully because you're making basic errors that are already explained there.
And stop trying to use "the US military" or "the US Navy" as your co-sign. You have no idea what the navy/military actually believe about UAPs, for the most part they've kept secret. You're quoting a few individuals and assuming they speak for the whole. For all you know, the military knows exactly what this shyt is and just isn't saying it for various reasons.
