Africans: Can you tell what tribe or country Diasporans are from just by looking at them?

[Poitier]

you probably are not of ethiopian descent

note cacs took AAs from west africa and some parts of central africa they never got east africa

Mozambique and even some Madagascar

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Mozambique and even some Madagascar

canadadry explained this better but i was talking about upper east africa closer to the gulf of aden

 

[Prynce]

Most Africans know from the jump I have Somali ancestry and they are shocked when they find out I'm half AA.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Yes we can do it but old folks do it better though. Call the african posters , post some pics and let's see

Kendrick lamar

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Young Thug

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Tika Sumpter

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Where do they come from?

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

Most Africans know from the jump I have Somali ancestry and they are shocked when they find out I'm half AA.

You more Somali I'm guessing?. Has any one ever pinned you with other african groups?

 

[Prynce]

You more Somali I'm guessing?. Has any one ever pinned you with other african groups?

My dad is only Somali, my mom is completely AA. I traced my moms family back to plantations in west Georgia but it gets very had at that point for AA's, but I maybe will have more luck since they released the freedmen bureau info. I found my cac ancestors very easy, traced them to England and Ireland.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

My dad is only Somali, my mom is completely AA. I traced my moms family back to plantations in west Georgia but it gets very had at that point for AA's, but I maybe will have more luck since they released the freedmen bureau info. I found my cac ancestors very easy, traced them to England and Ireland.

You should take a DNA test.

I found mines too but its like 6 generations back. So not that bad.

But it's heartbreaking reading your ancestors names in cacs wills and shyt.


Actual excerpt from cacs will.

"Item 13. I give unto my Elisha BREWER four hundred acres more or less, known as my old place, five negroes, Jesse, Green, Hannah, Emanda, Rewbin and their increase, our Ben Bead Shed and Furniture, two horses and two cows and cowry."

 

[Prynce]

You should take a DNA test.

I found mines too but its like 6 generations back. So not that bad.

But it's heartbreaking reading your ancestors names in cacs wills and shyt.


Actual excerpt from cacs will.

"Item 13. I give unto my Elisha BREWER four hundred acres more or less, known as my old place, five negroes, Jesse, Green, Hannah, Emanda, Rewbin and their increase, our Ben Bead Shed and Furniture, two horses and two cows and cowry."

I plan on taking one soon

The saddest thing I found out was that my 4th great grandmother was raped by her cac half brother and that resulted in my 3rd great grandmother

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

I plan on taking one soon

The saddest thing I found out was that my 4th great grandmother was raped by her cac half brother and that resulted in my 3rd great grandmother

Damn

 

[How Sway?]

I can tell generally what part of Africa an African is from but thats bout it.

I will say this though, I saw a few videos of some AA's that got dna testing done and long story short my guesses as to where they're ancestors were from were mostly correct.

 

[Peak]

More often than not

 

[Misreeya]

Africans claim they have that talent.

I seen on another site they said Lebron was some type of Ghanaian/ Angolan mash up.

As far as West African goes. I think the most distinguishable groups as i noticed and my vantage point are the Tuaregs, and certain fulani subgroups. Some fulani seems very complex, some of them look more or less like every other west Africans, and others look Horn/like, and a few others can almost past in North Africa. I guess it similar with the tuareg.

Stereotypical horn like fulani

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mnsBC3sxJSc/TXo8SjReqEI/AAAAAAAAAAU/7AHGvwISjpo/fulani couple.jpg


others who maybe past in North Africa


others with the more so called general appearance in that region.

http://alexscissors.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/wodaabe.jpg?w=529

I get really confused with the Fulani people. It seems like they are a collection of different African sub groups.

Also the people that live in Mauritannia is very distinguishable physically and culturally than most of west Africa but then again the people tend to fall btw Almagrib countries and Senegal/Mali , and some respect they remind me of the people here in Sudan. The diversity of that country looks similar for some weird reason.

I would like to see a DNA results of the different sub groups of the Fulani population.

As far as central Africans, i really don't have a clue, but the most distinguishable group of people i noticed are the Tutsis. Some Tutsi can look very Somali, but the difference is the hair. A good example of that is the President Paul Kagame

https://somaliswiss.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/sawirka_maanta_isku_ekaa.jpg?w=540&h=405

I know people consider Rwanda east Africa which it is, but it is in central Africa to so you never know.

I understand Southern Africa has there regional variety and a good example of that reality is the Khoisan or Bushmen peoples, and then you have Madagascar which is a varied country both blacks and Asian populations who been there for over 3,000 years,

I enjoyed this thread Canadadry, and i learned alot. Thanks.

 

[Cynic]

I understand Southern Africa has there regional variety and a good example of that reality is the Khoisan or Bushmen peoples, and then you have Madagascar which is a varied country both blacks and Asian populations who been there for over 3,000 years,

Wait till you meet these mulatto Angolans and Cape Coloureds.... :gotdamnbreh:

 

[Numero Deux]

I would like to see a DNA results of the different sub groups of the Fulani population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_people#Genetics

Genetics
Y-DNA (paternal)
The paternal lineages of the Fula/Fulɓe/Fulani tend to vary depending on geographic location. According to a study by Cruciani et al. (2002), around 90% of Fulani individuals from Burkina Faso carried haplotype 24, which corresponds with the common Sub-Saharan haplogroup E1b1a. The remainder belonged to haplotype 42/haplogroup E-M33. Both of these clades are today most frequent among Niger-Congo-speaking populations, particularly those inhabiting Senegal. Similarly, 53% of the Fulani in northern Cameroon bore haplogroup E-M33, with the rest mainly carrying other Sub-Saharan clades (12% haplogroup A and 6% haplogroup E1b1a). A minority carried the West Eurasian haplogroups T (18%) and R-M173 (12%).[57] Mulcare et al. (2004) observed a similar frequency of haplogroup R1 subclades in their Fulani samples from Cameroon (18%).[58]

A study by Hassan et al. (2008) on the Fulani in Sudan observed a significantly higher occurrence of the West Eurasian haplogroup R-M173 (53.8%). The remainder belonged to various Afro-Asiatic associated haplogroup E1b1b subclades, including 34.62% E-M78 and 27.2% E-V22.[59]

Bučková et al. (2013) similarly observed significant frequencies of the haplogroups R1b and E1b1b in their pastoralist Fulani groups from Niger. E1b1b attained its highest frequencies among the local Fulani Ader (60%) and R1b among the Fulani Zinder (~31%). This was in sharp contrast to most of the other Fulani pastoralist groups elsewhere, including those from Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Mali and Chad. All of these latter Fulani communities instead bore over 75% Sub-Saharan paternal haplogroups.[60]

MtDNA (maternal)
In contrast to their heterogeneous paternal lineages, the Fulani largely cluster maternally with other Niger-Congo populations. Only 8.1% of their mtDNA clades were associated with West Eurasian or Afro-Asiatic groups (J1b, U5, H, and V):[61]

"Despite the large size of the contemporary nomadic Fulani population (roughly 13 million people), the genetic diversity and degree of differentiation of Fulanis compared to other sub-Saharan populations remain unknown. We sampled four Fulani nomad populations (n = 186) in three countries of sub-Saharan Africa (Chad, Cameroon, and Burkina Faso) and analyzed sequences of the first hypervariable segment of the mitochondrial DNA. Most of the haplotypes belong to haplogroups of West African origin, such as L1b, L3b, L3d, L2b, L2c, and L2d (79.6% in total), which are all well represented in each of the four geographically separated samples. The haplogroups of Western Eurasian origin, such as J1b, U5, H, and V, were also detected but in rather low frequencies (8.1% in total). As in African hunter-gatherers (Pygmies and Khoisan) and some populations from central Tunisia (Kesra and Zriba), three of the Fulani nomad samples do not reveal significant negative values of Fu's selective neutrality test. The multidimensional scaling of FST genetic distances of related sub-Saharan populations and the analysis of molecular variance (AMOVA) show clear and close relationships between all pairs of the four Fulani nomad samples, irrespective of their geographic origin. The only group of nomadic Fulani that manifests some similarities with geographically related agricultural populations (from Guinea-Bissau and Nigeria) comes from Tcheboua in northern Cameroon."[61]

Autosomal DNA (overall)
According to Tishkoff et al. (2009), the Fulani's genomic ancestry clusters near that of Chadic and Central Sudanic speaking populations. Based on this, the researchers suggest that the Fulani may have adopted a Niger-Congo language at some point in their history while intermarrying with local populations. Additionally, low to moderate levels of West Eurasian admixture was also observed in the Fulani samples, which the authors propose may have been introduced via the Iberian peninsula.[62]

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[Lil' Kartwheel]

I'm black American with pre-slave trade roots in Yorubaland. Before I took my DNA test to confirm it, I was always questioned if I was Nigerian by my Igbo and Yoruba friends and their parents. I didn't think much of it at the time but living in Houston all my life, there's a lot of bicultural mixture and many black Americans could pass for Igbo and/or Yoruba based on looks and mannerisms.

Simply looking like an Igbo man or Akan man doesn't mean I could claim the culture but it helps in bridging West African-black American cultures.

In a perfect world, all these misguided pro-black "We were kings and queens" people should wholly embrace learning about Igbo/Yoruba/Akan language and cuisine just like black immigrants learned and embrace our black American culture.

Despite 400 years of separation, many west Africans acknowledge their black American kinsmen. We all just need to focus on our similarities instead of our differences. It wouldn't have been possible for Nnamdi Azikiwe and Kwame Nkrumah to learn from the black American experience if the openness wasn't there.