Africans: Can you tell what tribe or country Diasporans are from just by looking at them?

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I usually can tell when a muthaphucka is from DR Congo/Angola, but that's about it. :manny:
 

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I think people are underestimating West Africa's diversity IMO

A Tuareg person from Mali is identifiable from a Igbo person from Nigeria who is identifiable from an Akan person from Ghana who is identifiable from a Fula person

Throw in all off the Chadic tribes from Central Africa and Bantu tribes from Southern Africa and it becomes apparent why New World Africans don't have one unified look.
 

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Where do they come from?
Its very difficult to determine where an African American comes from via phenotype as most African Americans are a mixture of different west and central African people. They have a pan African look not to mention most have between 10 to 20 percent Western European ancestry. African Americans are have their own unique look.
 

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What tribe do Haitians come from?

To be honest with you all the people brought as slaves from Africa into the New World are all mixed with many African ethnic groups. Hardly any people in the African Diaspora are just from one ethnic group. Here is an informal spreadsheet that a person is keeping on an Ancestry.com forum for people who have taken the ethnicity test so far. It is not decisive, because it only tells you about people who have take the ethnicity test so far.

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What tribe do Haitians come from?
Mostly Yoruba, Kongo, Ewe, amd Fon. Fon in particular has had a large influence on Creole
To be honest with you all the people brought as slaves from Africa into the New World are all mixed with many African ethnic groups. Hardly any people in the African Diaspora are just from one ethnic group. Here is an informal spreadsheet that a person is keeping on an Ancestry.com forum for people who have taken the ethnicity test so far. It is not decisive, because it only tells you about people who have take the ethnicity test so far.

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You are corrct about there bwing mixes of tribes and provide a great resource .

But also remember that while many slaves from a particular area may have been in a colony, that doesnt mean they were the ones to survive. A great example is Jamaica where more people from modern day Nigeria (Yoruba and Igbos mostky) were imported more than any grouo but the people and culture are more Akan influenced because the Akan slaves were more likely to survive (see the Twi influence on Patois and the remnants of Akan culture in the Jamaican Maroons)
 

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Mostly Yoruba, Kongo, Ewe, amd Fon. Fon in particular has had a large influence on Creole


You are corrct about there bwing mixes of tribes and provide a great resource .

But also remember that while many slaves from a particular area may have been in a colony, that doesnt mean they were the ones to survive. A great example is Jamaica where more people from modern day Nigeria (Yoruba and Igbos mostky) were imported more than any grouo but the people and culture are more Akan influenced because the Akan slaves were more likely to survive (see the Twi influence on Patois and the remnants of Akan culture in the Jamaican Maroons)

Actually the most imported group of slaves anywhere were from the Congo, which includes the Bakongo people from Angola.

A lot of the slaves from what we now know as Nigeria are actually from Cameroon. A lot of Tikar (including Bamoun and Bamileke) and Fulani and Hausa people from Cameroon may have been lumped with Igbo people; but in fact they were brought by slave traders from modern day Cameroon into Old Calabar on the Bight of Biafra in Nigeria. Notice that other Hausa and Fulani from Nigeria were shipped form either the Bight of Bonny port or from Ghana, because those two ethnic groups are so wide spread. Cameroon also maintained a slave port of its own called Bimbia.

 
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Actually the most imported group of slaves anywhere were from the Congo, which includes the Bakongo people from Angola.

A lot of the slaves from what we now know as Nigeria are actually from Cameroon. A lot of Tikar (including Bamoun and Bamileke) and Fulani and Hausa people from Cameroon may have been lumped with Igbo people; but in fact they were brought by slave traders from modern day Cameroon into Old Calabar on the Bight of Biafra in Nigeria. Notice that other Hausa and Fulani from Nigeria were shipped form either the Bight of Bonny port or from Ghana, because those two ethnic groups are so wide spread. Cameroon also maintained a slave port of its own called Bimbia.


Im gonna check the link out. But my original point stands, Jamaican people and culture are more Akan influenced than any other group even though Akan people werent the biggest group to be imported
 

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Im gonna check the link out. But my original point stands, Jamaican people and culture are more Akan influenced than any other group even though Akan people werent the biggest group to be imported

I am not denying the influence of the Akan people on Jamaica, but then again many African Americans are of Akan decent as well. Btw, when we say Akan we really mean the Asante and the Brong people of Ghana and the Baoule people of the Ivory Coast. They are all Akan people; actually I just call them all Brong or Asante; because they are all related.
 

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I am not denying the influence of the Akan people on Jamaica, but then again many African Americans are of Akan decent as well. Btw, when we say Akan we really mean the Asante and the Brong people of Ghana and the Baoule people of the Ivory Coast. They are all Akan people; actually I just call them all Brong or Asante; because they are all related.
Im just making that not all the brehs' descendants made it:mjcry:
 

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I think that Hausa and Fulani are mostly the ones in Northern Nigeria and in my opinion African Americans do look a whole lot like them.

The more I see of the various African ethnic groups; the more and more I realize that the average African American look a whole lot like the people of Cameroon and the Congo too.

I think these are Cameroonian women:

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I think it depends on the Fulani subgroup, because some Fulani can look very North African, while others look what people consider typically West African, and some look somewhat Hornish. So i guess it depends. It seems like them and the Tuaregs at times overlapp with one another.
 

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Im just making that not all the brehs' descendants made it:mjcry:

One thing that I would add about finding out about the ethnicity of African people is that it is not always cut and dry. I ran GEDMatch on my results to find out my closest ethnicities. Before the results show my African ethnicities; it first showed that after African American I am most closely to the Caribbean people in the Dominican Republic.

I don't know why that is, but I know that some slaves were taken to the Caribbean before being taking to the USA.
 
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