African/West Indian biases against AAs = sad

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Yall will never be like us in the USA. Whites look down at yall even more so than us, regardless if yall get educations and shyt. Yall aren't "American." I got love for all Africans but hey, if yall want to hate on us, there is no love lost.

:whoa:A racist policeman's baton or bullets do not differentiate between "black-american" and "black african". Tribalism, believing your group is somehow separate from the whole, is how Colonialists were able to divide and conquer in the first place. If African Americans viewed the USA as not being their country, the way all immigrants whether black or not do, they would be better off for it.
 

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Stop calling us "African Americans", we're Black. African Americans are a catch-all for any person of African ancestry in the USA, Us, Blacks, have our own culture.

We done went from ******, negro, colored, black, black American, and now African American. Just let it rock it's nice to be associated with the motherland anyway. :manny:
 

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:whoa:A racist policeman's baton or bullets do not differentiate between "black-american" and "black african". Tribalism, believing your group is somehow separate from the whole, is how Colonialists were able to divide and conquer in the first place. If African Americans viewed the USA as not being their country, the way all immigrants whether black or not do, they would be better off for it.

I don't let what a "racist policeman" thinks decide how I feel about MY culture. "Tribalism" may have had something to do with it. but the world is globalized now and so that is irrelevant. On top of that, I'm sure advanced weaponry and money had MUCH more to do with the conquering of Africa than one's pride in their "tribe."

The same "tribalism", arguably, is the reason The Jews control the world. You can't be selective in your examples.


believe in silly nationalism brehs

How is it silly? Nationalism is why Jews run the world. If all these other African cultures can be proud of their heritage and culture then Blacks have just the same amount of rights.
 

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I don't let what a "racist policeman" thinks decide how I feel about MY culture. "Tribalism" may have had something to do with it. but the world is globalized now and so that is irrelevant. On top of that, I'm sure advanced weaponry and money had MUCH more to do with the conquering of Africa than one's pride in their "tribe."

The same "tribalism", arguably, is the reason The Jews control the world. You can't be selective in your examples.




How is it silly? Nationalism is why Jews run the world. If all these other African cultures can be proud of their heritage and culture then Blacks have just the same amount of rights.

So being proud of a country that actively destroys black communities is where it's at I guess. Some Nationalism. :ehh:

Globalization actually makes strengthening ties between blacks all the more important and relevant. Black Nationalism can't thrive without Pan Africanism, Malcolm knew this as did Nkrumah.
 

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It's only surprising for those who think that color is more important than culture/nationality/personal experience/socio-economic status, which in itself is a naive and racist view to have. Just look how some white americans look down on Europeans vice-versa, hell if you've been to Africa you know that people from different ethnic groups/regions may look down on each other. Which is exactly what's been going on for centuries in Europe, why would it be different any where else or between people as culturally different as Africans and Black Americans?

We're all different meaning we're mutual strangers, meaning you will always have some people who will look down on others, because that's what they do to strangers.
 

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Exactly...that's all it is.


Are you referring to Africans/ West Indians looking down on other Blacks?

Or Are you referring to Blacks viewing their culture as something separate and to be proud of?

If it's the latter, I'll need you to explain. You can have pride in your heritage and still show love.


So being proud of a country that actively destroys black communities is where it's at I guess. Some Nationalism. :ehh:

Hey, that's the tragic story of Black America. Acting as if we have NO history is better? It's tough being Black in America, sure, but there is great pride in some of the things WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AGAINST ALL ODDS. Jamaicans can be proud of Jamaica, Dominicans and DR, all twisted places, but I can pride myself on being American when it's all I know and it's more diverse than those 3rd world small countries?

YOU CAN STILL HAVE LOVE OTHER CULTURES BUT BE PROUD OF YOUR OWN.

So being proud of a country that actively destroys black communities is where it's at I guess. Some Nationalism. :ehh:

Globalization actually makes strengthening ties between blacks all the more important and relevant. Black Nationalism can't thrive without Pan Africanism, Malcolm knew this as did Nkrumah.

That's not what the user who I was replying to stated. Imperialism will not happen again because the world is already Globalized. At this point, most people should be enlightened enough to respect other cultures and still have pride in their own. I can support my Nigerian cousins and still recognize that I am an American Black with my own history and culture.
 

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The same "tribalism", arguably, is the reason The Jews control the world. You can't be selective in your examples.

If all people of African descent worked together the way the Jews did, we'd be bigger than the Jews. One of my Jewish friends and I were talking about what the most important lesson our parents wanted us to know. Mine was the golden rule, "do unto others as you'd like done to you". His was "always help another jew".
 

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Being a black man born and raised in the states, I feel blacks in america are more biased towards africans, west indians than the opposite..

U have alot of africans ( FROM MY EXPERIENCE SO SHUT THE fukk UP ) that came to the states for a better life than they had in mogadishu and they just shake there head on why blacks here don't take advantage of a free education, pell grants and other resources that they don't have back in africa just to live a normal life even if u not making 6 figures and living in the burbs..

african girl and dude told me the shyt they went through in mogadishu and i was like damn.. really... there family getting killed, brothers force to join the pirate trade and seeing kids murder just walking to school and the cops wouldn't do shyt but get paid off and walk away.. so they come here with the urge of a better quiet life while i see majority of my folks here in the states continue to blame the system day in and day out

Yes the system is fukked up, but that shouldn't stop u from get where u going... it's like u driving home and u see the road close. what are u going to do give up and hope the road open up someday or take a detour even tho it might take longer and u have to go through some shyt, but your main objective is to get home..

ALL IN ALL WE AS BLACKS PERIOD NEED TO SHUT THE fukk UP SOMETIMES AND STUDY EACH OTHER AND LISTEN TO EACH OTHER..
 
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If all people of African descent worked together the way the Jews did, we'd be bigger than the Jews. One of my Jewish friends and I were talking about what the most important lesson our parents wanted us to know. Mine was the golden rule, "do unto others as you'd like done to you". His was "always help another jew".

I agree, but the Jews are a singular culture. We can work together as Africans and still have respect for our differences. It's the purest definition of cosmopolitanism one can have.


Being a black man born and raised in the states, I feel blacks in america are more biased towards africans, west indians than the opposite..

U have alot of africans ( FROM MY EXPERIENCE SO SHUT THE fukk UP ) that came to the states for a better life than they had in mogadishu and they just shake there head on why blacks here don't take advantage of a free education, pell grants and other resources that they don't have back in africa just to live a normal life even if u not making 6 figures and living in the burbs..

african girl and dude told me the shyt they went through in mogadishu and i was like damn.. really... there family getting killed, brothers force to join the pirate trade and seeing kids murder just walking to school and the cops wouldn't do shyt but get paid off and walk away.. so they come here with the urge of a better quiet life while i see majority of my folks here in the states continue to blame the system day in and day out

Yes the system is fukked up, but that shouldn't stop u from get where u going... it's like u driving home and u see the road close. what are u going to do give up and hope the road open up someday or take a detour even tho it might take longer and u have to go through some shyt, but your main objective is to get home..

ALL IN ALL WE AS BLACKS PERIOD NEED TO SHUT THE fukk SOMETIMES AND STUDY EACH OTHER AND LISTEN TO EACH OTHER..


Who are they to judge us and our inadequacies? I'm sure if Blacks lived en masse in African nations, we would be perplexed and find many hypocrisies in their culture as well. It's irrelevant.
 

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Hey, thats the tragic story of Black America. Acting as if we have NO history is better? It's tough being Black in America, sure, but there is great pride in some of the things WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED AGAINST ALL ODDS. Jamaicans can be proud of Jamaica, Dominicans and DR, all twisted places, but I can pride myself on being American when it's all I know and it's more diverse than those 3rd world small countries?

YOU CAN STILL HAVE LOVE OTHER CULTURES BUT BE PROUD OF YOUR OWN.

Who said you shouldn't be? lol, embracing other blacks doesn't put down your own culture. It might be different for me cuz I grew up in a place where all black people were united by skin color and the societal stigma it comes with. But Nationalism has nothing to do with some sort of superiority complex toward your own kind since both sides strengthen the other, needless isolationism just because of a few bad apples makes no sense, your culture isn't the beneficiary of America but rather the byproduct of her villainy. I remember black people telling me I'm not black cuz I'm Ethiopian, despite Ethiopia being the starting point of humanity and civilization, therefore being the start point of all Black people. You don't see me on here puttin my culture over others, all of us are black and under attack by the same global system.

lol, proud of america. Biggest prison population in the world and most of it is black men, how you gon be a proud of a country that's done all it can to stomp you out? Common policemen, FBI agents, all types bust into Fred Hampton house and spray him cuz he and people within the Panthers dare to tell black people to stand up. You proud of that country breh? lol, if Malcolm had your mentality he would of been nothing like the person he was. Embracing Africa and your fellow Diasporans from the Caribbean, Central, and South America doesn't ditract from who you are it bolsters it.
 
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