African/West Indian biases against AAs = sad

[Data-Hawk]

I understand your experience. My mother's a second generation Ethiopian American, and my father's side is African American, but my mother is so removed from her culture that I never really grew up around my Ethiopian side. My mother was culturally African-American, and her family had a problem with her marriage to my father. She would make a few comments here and there about Ethiopian culture vs. African American culture, which showed how different they view themselves. It confused me. I've always just referred to myself as an African American but I don't fit in, and out of the few times I'd be around my Ethiopian side I could tell that they thought they were better than me. I'm tired of seeking acceptance from that side so I just ride with being African American. At the same time, Africans (West or East) really need to act right cause they need to realize that it's because of African Americans they have rights in this country. There's a disconnect between the two groups of people because the African American experience is vastly different from the West/East African experience. Most of these Africans come from mostly homogenous societies and didn't have to deal with white supremacy on the same level that my ancestors had to. So they come here and think everything's easy, without understanding the 400 years of bullshyt we done had to go through, and then try to call us lazy and join in with whitey. But they don't hear me tho.

This ^. My sons mother is from Trinidad and her mother hated me from the jump, no matter how well I sucked up to her or how well I treated her daughter. and it was definitely because I wasn't from Trinidad....She would always be on some " You americans don't have any values" blah blah............after sometime I just gave up...

 

[Northern Son]

Did you even read the thread? There were atleast 5 different African users who came into the thread who claimed that Blacks were "lazy, uneducated, street thugs." You can claim Pan-Africanism all you want, but if you aren't Black don't speak on our problems, issues, and culture with condescension. I don't see how that's absolutely "no reason."
I'm cool with OP FUNERAL, my initial post was in reference to the fukkin thread topic "Africans and West Indian Biases Against Blacks." You just want to whine and complain about nothing.

I read the first four pages just to make sure and not surprisingly you're full of shyt. Right before your first smear on foreign blacks, Chris B. - a known c00n who's not even liked among African users - and dallastexas WHO IS WHITE made the claim that Africans work harder than American blacks but every other African/Caribbean denounced those notions which is why your post stands out as needlessly xenophobic. Aside from the white boy (why didn't you respond to him personally?) not one poster in this thread much less "5 different African users" talked about "lazy uneducated street thugs" or anything remotely that racist. The irony of your last sentence is seriously astounding. You're whining and complaining about non-existent Africans/Caribbean posters.

I'm sorry bruh, but Blacks are the envy of all other Africans. They wished they were natural citizens of the USA, the greatest and most prosperous lands. I could care less what a Panamanians, Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, English Blacks, French Blacks, Cubans, Dominicans, Trinidadians, Jamaicans, Nigerians, Ghanians, or whatever feels for me and all other Africans of American slave ancestry. We will never be one big group culturally, all of us different Africans, and so there is no love lost.

You said this shyt out of nowhere. If you came at Chris B. I'd give you a pass but you went after all other blacks more or less at random. You, not me, should re-read the thread first.

Yall will never be like us in the USA. Whites look down at yall even more so than us, regardless if yall get educations and shyt. Yall aren't "American." I got love for all Africans but hey, if yall want to hate on us, there is no love lost.

Green eggs and spam didn't really say anything about American blacks and you responded to him with the above quote because he took exception to you shytting on his people at random (his reply was just a Stephen A smilie).

I'm black and if you think Zimbabwean/Malawian native heritage doesn't equal black then you're an idiot.

 

[Northern Son]

edit: double post

 

[Poitier]

I made it very clear of my POV, label it what you want. My argument wasn't in the confines of this thread. You show respect to get respect and you don't speak on things that you have no clue about. Was I harsh in my wording? Maybe, but if someone from another African diaspora has a problem with American Blacks .........................

Spare me with the "I'm Black." If you grew up in a non-American country and came over as an adult, hung out with American Blacks, you would not be able to relate to any of the music we listen to, food we eat, our history, our local color, our our socio-economic issue, so on and so on. We'd look at you as different, though we would still welcome you, but clearly that divide exists. It's overt. I don't entertain delusions. If you're Malawian/ Zimbabwean then our bloodlines are not the same. Cosmopolitanism is an acknowledgment of differences.


I can get down with the macro-view of Pan-Africanism, but I'm not doing it at the expense of distorting my culture.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I read the first four pages just to make sure and not surprisingly you're full of shyt. Right before your first smear on foreign blacks, Chris B. - a known c00n who's not even liked among African users - and dallastexas WHO IS WHITE made the claim that Africans work harder than American blacks but every other African/Caribbean denounced those notions which is why your post stands out as needlessly xenophobic. Aside from the white boy (why didn't you respond to him personally?) not one poster in this thread much less "5 different African users" talked about "lazy uneducated street thugs" or anything remotely that racist.



You said this shyt out of nowhere. If you came at Chris B. I'd give you a pass but you went after all other blacks more or less at random. You, not me, should re-read the thread first.



Green eggs and spam didn't really say anything about American blacks and you responded to him with the above quote because he took exception to you shytting on his people at random (his reply was just a Stephen A smilie).

I'm black and if you think Zimbabwean/Malawian native heritage doesn't equal black then you're an idiot. The irony of your last sentence is seriously astounding. You're whining and complaining about non-existent Africans/Caribbean posters.

Dude is a clown. Ignore his dumb ass.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I made it very clear of my POV, label it what you want. My argument wasn't in the confines of this thread. You show respect to get respect and you don't speak on things that you have no clue about. Was I harsh in my wording? Maybe, but if someone from another African diaspora has a problem with American Blacks .........................

Spare me with the "I'm Black." If you grew up in a non-American country and came over as an adult, hung out with American Blacks, you would not be able to relate to any of the music we listen to, food we eat, our history, our local color, our our socio-economic issue, so on and so on. We'd look at you as different, though we would still welcome you, but clearly that divide exists. It's overt. I don't entertain delusions. If you're Malawian/ Zimbabwean then our bloodlines are not the same.


I can get down with the macroview of "Pan Africanism" but I'm not doing it at the expense of distorting my culture.

You look at us as different, because you hate your fukking self, that much is obvious. When a nikka can open his filthy mouth and say there is absolutely NOTHING to be proud of that originated in Africa, that tells the board all that there is to know.

And how the fukk does Pan-Africanism distort your culture? Unless you're a confused "Negropean" or something, then I could see why the "African" label would negatively affect you.

Newsflash, YOUR A BLACK AFRICAN negroe. Get over it.

 

[Poitier]

You look at us as different, because you hate your fukking self, that much is obvious. When a nikka can open his filthy mouth and say there is absolutely NOTHING to be proud of that originated in Africa, that tells the board all that there is to know.

And how the fukk does Pan-Africanism distort your culture? Unless you're a confused "Negropean" or something, then I could see why the "African" label would negatively affect you.

Newsflash, YOUR A BLACK AFRICAN negroe. Get over it.

I didn't say that nothing to be proud of came out of Africa. If you can quote me saying that I will let up. Look at other threads on the topic of African history, I take great pride.

Second, I assumed dallastexas and Chris B were non-American Blacks speaking ill of my particular culture. Like I said, I respond to animosity with animosity. My culture comes before my overall heritage.

Third, I look at all non-American Africans as different. You added a negative connotation. I'd be a fool to think I'm the same as someone who came from a completely different set of experiences. Doesn't mean I wouldn't embrace them and learn more about their particular customs. Only a schizophrenic need the ability to delude themselves.

Pan Africanism distorts particular diaspora's cultures when people fail to acknowledge the differences between Africans, globally. Why not promote the diversity? Just saying we're all "Black" puts a blanket over all of the different diasporas. I do have White ancestors (by marriage, not rape), but that's irrelevant to the subject, as I consider myself Black. No, I won't ignore that I am different from a Malawian/ Zimbabwean and that's okay. The overall support of a fellow person of African lineage is still possible. It's not exclusive.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

But that's my thing tho, Pan Africanism doesn't put a blanket over anyone at all. It merely connects everyone to each other. So we can know and embrace each others cultures. My stepfather has written and played an Ethiopian style of Jazz for years. That's because he deeply appreciates the genius of Jazz and enjoys the sound. Hip Hop itself had elements tracing back to Jamaica. These are indirect examples of sorts but notice how no cultures were disturbed or superseded, merely learned of and embraced. Just because we reconnect more doesn't mean anyone is giving up anything. As black people, within the context of this society, interaction can only enrich each group and build a sense of a much larger community. It's a lot of negative shyt to get over tho.

@Poitier I don't believe that animosity shyt it's gotta be something deeper. It's your business so I won't ask, but that shyt really reeked of hurt feelings. eh, fukk it...

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

here in Dallas the young African/West Indian dudes are cool towards black americans but the majority of African/WI females are fukking c00ns


these broads pop so much shyt about Black Americans and dikk ride white americans to death

i dont even waste time talking to their females
shyt is shameful

 

[How Sway?]

I understand your experience. My mother's a second generation Ethiopian American, and my father's side is African American, but my mother is so removed from her culture that I never really grew up around my Ethiopian side. My mother was culturally African-American, and her family had a problem with her marriage to my father. She would make a few comments here and there about Ethiopian culture vs. African American culture, which showed how different they view themselves. It confused me. I've always just referred to myself as an African American but I don't fit in, and out of the few times I'd be around my Ethiopian side I could tell that they thought they were better than me. I'm tired of seeking acceptance from that side so I just ride with being African American. At the same time, Africans (West or East) really need to act right cause they need to realize that it's because of African Americans they have rights in this country. There's a disconnect between the two groups of people because the African American experience is vastly different from the West/East African experience. Most of these Africans come from mostly homogenous societies and didn't have to deal with white supremacy on the same level that my ancestors had to. So they come here and think everything's easy, without understanding the 400 years of bullshyt we done had to go through, and then try to call us lazy and join in with whitey. But they don't hear me tho.